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*pictured - USS Iowa performing anti-aircraft drills in May 1943*

Which ship is the best at blasting away with its secondary battery guns?

While battleships are best known for close-quarters brawling with secondary batteries, cruisers, carriers, and even some destroyers also are armed with secondary armaments capable of dealing great damage to those that dare approach them.

With the right equipment and a well trained captain, brawling ships can overwhelm their opponents just by sailing close by while unleashing devastating gunfire.

Which brawler lets you sail away from close encounters of a third kind while punishing any that oppose you?

"You don't hurt them if you don't hit them." - Lewis "Chesty" Puller, US Marine Corps

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1. Bismark

2. Tirpitz

3. Massachusettes 

 

Edit: Midway

 

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Mikasa :Smile_hiding:  

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Anything with secondary guns. :Smile_hiding:

 

Pretty sure the only thing I haven't gotten a secondary kill with is a DD, unless you count back in the day when IJN had torps on par or better than the other nations and the guns were basically a secondary weapon. 

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Love my Derpitz for its secondaries! Bismarck is good also but lacks the “balance lance” secondaries the Derpitz also has :cap_haloween:

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38 minutes ago, Vangm94 said:

Ryujo and her 28 Secondary Kills

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I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Graz Zepplin yet. I've seen it shred DDs trying to chase her down.

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17 minutes ago, WanderingGhost said:

Anything with secondary guns. :Smile_hiding:

 

Pretty sure the only thing I haven't gotten a secondary kill with is a DD, unless you count back in the day when IJN had torps on par or better than the other nations and the guns were basically a secondary weapon. 

The Umikaze has a secondary battery.

5 minutes ago, Gneisenau013 said:

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Graz Zepplin yet. I've seen it shred DDs trying to chase her down.

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I think this is because of how rare they thankfully are.

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Don't get the manual secondary skill. It makes the secondaries not fire unless you target them, and then only that one target. Also, downvote for disgusting anime.

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57 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

The Umikaze has a secondary battery.

I randomly got a secondary kill with Kiev once. Twin 85MM turret on the back.

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Mostly for me, the full secondary build is broken, until manual secondary skill changes to act like auto secondaries, until you focus fire. I do have full secondary build on Richelieu for operation Hermes.

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Nagato is my favorite secondary build these days.

Amagi and Massachusetts are very very close runners-up.

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1 hour ago, Gneisenau013 said:

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Graz Zepplin yet. I've seen it shred DDs trying to chase her down.

"Never fear the enemy but always respect them." John Basilone, US Marine Corps

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I have a very large number of secondary kills with Graf, mostly from chasing t6-8 dds (higher tiers can soak the damage), but the secondaries, while often they are the killing blow, don't deal very much dmg. Dive and torpedo bombers are more important, and effective : given the Grafs fast turnaround/takeoff rate. The Secondaries are a deterrent, mostly. (as they should be)/

My highest dmg on record from secondaries was versus a battleship, Bismarck, from fires. 

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I don't use MFCSA as I play mostly vs bots and they tend to surround you so I like to have the guns fire from both sides.

 

For secondary ships, I like Massachusetts, Gascogne and Tirpitz in that order. I'm still working on Gneisenau and hope to get to Bismarck early next year.

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1 hour ago, WanderingGhost said:

Anything with secondary guns. :Smile_hiding:

 

Pretty sure the only thing I haven't gotten a secondary kill with is a DD, unless you count back in the day when IJN had torps on par or better than the other nations and the guns were basically a secondary weapon. 

Some destroyers actually have secondaries. I've gotten CQC in Kiev before.

 

Hilarious when it happens, because Kiev's secondary battery consists of a single 88mm gun.

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9 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said:

Some destroyers actually have secondaries. I've gotten CQC in Kiev before.

 

Hilarious when it happens, because Kiev's secondary battery consists of a single 88mm gun.

My only kill with Haida, was with her 100 mm aft secondary!

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12 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said:

Some destroyers actually have secondaries. I've gotten CQC in Kiev before.

Not doubting that any have them, I think it's just literally the only class I haven't got a secondary kill in. 

Have another reason to work toward Kiev again though. 

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Tirpitz kind of beats the Bismarck to me in the battle rankings, but that's more due to the Torpedo backup.  However I got to play Massachusetts with a 10 point captain during the Pirate event.  I bought the thing the next day because it was just so much fun. 

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best Secondary build for initial success was the Izumo stock hull, those 3 turrets pretty tough.  First game killed 3 DDs one right after the other with my fully maxed out secondary build...missed losing that turret on the upgrade.  Now the Republic is my new fun secondary build, though of course the Trip and Bis are great.  Don't overlook the Shiny Horse and Nice Canoe Sec build too.

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Tried it on the GK for the LOLs, and had a few 30k dmg secondary games, but after a few games of that i realized it took too much away from main battery accuracy which needs all the help it can get.

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17 minutes ago, Octavian_of_Roma said:

In the order of what I enjoyed. (not effectiveness)

1. Alsace

2. Massachusetts

3. Scharn

4. FDG

5. Bismarck

6. Arizona, just cause I laughed any time it happened

Pretty much agree. Scharnhorst's secondaries have only 7~8 km range (depending on how you build) and rarely see their use, but when they do, the ship goes to Norse berserker mode.

I want WG to also make Cesare and Roma secondary build-viable by buffing the range to their tier's standard. It won't make the ships more OP than they are, because they are not the tanky turtles like the Germans. :fish_happy:

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Full secondary build Republique is quite strong. Alsace is good as well, though you need to take IFHE to make the 100's actually do damage.

 

I also got two CQE awards with Stalingrad the other day; something else to add to the list of Russian Bias going for her. :Smile_hiding:

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