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IJN Yamato at Full Speed Ahead (photo)

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Got to love this picture of a beautiful ship... She deserved a better fate. RIP.

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最高速で前へ - Sai kōsoku de mae e ("Full speed ahead!")

 

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If the Yamato had survived the war, it would have been turned into razor-blades, like the KG5, Washington, Haruna, Enterprise, and Warspite.

As she is, she is still in better condition than the ones I mention.

Better to serve as a sunken war memorial than so much scrap metal.

THAT WAS the fate she deserved....   but not her crew.

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At least she went down with honor and rests peacefully. Would have been better as museum ships, but odds are she would have joined the nuclear test targets instead like Prinz Eugen and Nagato. But not sure if the nukes would have taken down Yamato or if she would be a wandering radioactive ghost ship for years after? ( probably would not have been safe to renovate her for a while).

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2 minutes ago, AVR_Project said:

If the Yamato had survived the war, it would have been turned into razor-blades, like the KG5, Washington, Haruna, Enterprise, and Warspite.

As she is, she is still in better condition than the ones I mention.

Better to serve as a sunken war memorial than so much scrap metal.

THAT WAS the fate she deserved....   but not her crew.

Not  necessarily Japanese are sentimental and like honoring their ancestors and their nation. If Yamato has survived the war and if it had not been hauled off by the US, then it would very likely be a museum ship because of how much Japan had cared about the ship,

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39 minutes ago, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

Not  necessarily Japanese are sentimental and like honoring their ancestors and their nation. If Yamato has survived the war and if it had not been hauled off by the US, then it would very likely be a museum ship because of how much Japan had cared about the ship,

Yes. +1

Better she had her fate or I see her towed to Bikini atoll for a nuclear test.

Mikasa however, is still alive and well, the only preserved pre-dreadnought battleship anywhere in the world.

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Watched the video....   Something is not quite right.....    Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

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On 8/6/2018 at 7:58 PM, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

Not  necessarily Japanese are sentimental and like honoring their ancestors and their nation. If Yamato has survived the war and if it had not been hauled off by the US, then it would very likely be a museum ship because of how much Japan had cared about the ship,

Japan still puts out occasional proposals to rebuild her as a functional museum ship (seaworthy enough to cruise around with). Though the quirk of being "functional" is nebulous when it comes to the weaponry. It's vague enough to say "we wish to build a fully functional battleship just for museum purposes", given that Japan wouldn't want to do things by half when it comes to the Yamato. Heck, they even wanted to salvage the Yamato's remains and rebuild her a few times.

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5 minutes ago, YamatoA150 said:

Japan still puts out occasional proposals to rebuild her as a functional museum ship (seaworthy enough to cruise around with). Though the quirk of being "functional" is nebulous when it comes to the weaponry. It's vague enough to say "we wish to build a fully functional battleship just for museum purposes", given that Japan wouldn't want to do things by half when it comes to the Yamato. Heck, they even wanted to salvage the Yamato's remains and rebuild her a few times.

I want to be sure as to not disrespect the brave sailors who died in that stupid Operation Ten-Go mission, but in terms of functionality she could be rebuilt as a floating "hotel" which was pretty much her "function" for most of the war.....

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On 8/6/2018 at 5:14 PM, Stauffenberg44 said:

Got to love this picture of a beautiful ship... She deserved a better fate. RIP.

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最高速で前へ - Sai kōsoku de mae e ("Full speed ahead!")

 

A lot of ships deserve better fates.  Whether it be in war or post-war treatment.

 

Enterprise for all her military glory was promptly set to be scrapped.  Numerous ships from navies on the losing side of the war getting split up to the winners for war reparations.  The remnants of the German Navy of WWI were going to be split up between the victors until they were scuttled instead, and people dying as a result (you survive WWI but die when the war is over scuttling ships, how screwed up is that for those sailors?).  Yukikaze went to the ROCN after WWII.  Japan was trying to get her back when her service ended, due to her history in WWII, but that didn't happen.  She got scrapped instead.  Warspite with her very long service encompassing two World Wars.  Scrapped.

 

As for Yamato's use during the war itself, you can put the blame on Yamamoto and all the other Commanders of Combined Fleet.  They withheld the Big Guns of the IJN for a "Decisive Battle" for so long, by the time they decided it was time to sortie in full strength, the Allied Navies in the Pacific had gotten so large in 1944 that it was never, ever a question of the Allies winning.  While the Japanese and the Allies were spear fishing each other in the Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands naval / land campaigns, combating each other in the mountains and jungles of New Guinea, Yamato was sitting in Truk, soaking up the sun and sake.  All while the IJN Destroyers and Light Cruisers were being lost at terrifying rates.  You can put the blame on this on IJN leadership.

 

Speaking of Enterprise, an opinion / comedy piece about people crying over "the other Enterprise / CVN-65" scrapping:

https://www.duffelblog.com/2013/10/theyre-scrapping-the-enterprise-boo-hoo-hoo/

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 Meh, Japan should build a new Yamato named warship. A drone carrier. As in, the world's first purely dedicated drone carrier. One so big it can launch thousands and thousands at once. Both sub, surface and airborne drones.

 

mmm yeah.

 

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On 8/6/2018 at 5:58 PM, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

If Yamato has survived the war and if it had not been hauled off by the US, then it would very likely be a museum ship because of how much Japan had cared about the ship,

Probably would have ended up at Bikini. No way the US was leaving Japan with that kind of memorial. If the US didn't take it, the Soviets certainly would. (and it would be in game as a much better Yamato).

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6 hours ago, Sabot_100 said:

Probably would have ended up at Bikini. No way the US was leaving Japan with that kind of memorial. If the US didn't take it, the Soviets certainly would. (and it would be in game as a much better Yamato).

Vodka fueled Yamato would have:

Below waterline citadel.

75mm decks

13km max secondaries range with built in IFHE.

10km max AA range

2.65 sigma for the main battery.

Better turret traverse.

25% better dispersion than the IJN version.  Just because.

33kts max speed.

Defensive Fire

Radar

To offset all these benefits, the Soviet Yamato will have 1km worse detection range than the IJN version.

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