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Teammates! I need your help!

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Any guys here with actual naval experience?

Do you really talk like this in a battle?: Teammates! I need your help!

I doubt it.

Wouldn't it sound better if it were  "All Stations, I need support"?

The game is brilliant visually. However, some of the voiceover stuff needs work.

One more thing, the last time I tried the British English voice was back in early 2017.  It was one of the worst attempts at a Received Pronunciation accent ever heard.  Since I play mostly RN ships it would be swell to have an authentic upper class English accent.

:Smile_child:

 

 

 

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Achtung.  Deutschland Uber Alles   !

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1 hour ago, TheGreatBlasto said:

I'd settle for someone who sounds like Kenneth Moore.

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I tried but I ended up watching the whole thing for the 20th time . I would settle for someone who looks like Dana Wynter  .

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48 minutes ago, clammboy said:

 

I tried but I ended up watching the whole thing for the 20th time . I would settle for someone who looks like Dana Wynter  .

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I know what you mean. I had a crush on Dana as a lad.  She was a beauty.

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No if chat were like actual comm circuits there would be comm discipline and no chatter like there is in chat.

there is no one asking anyone for anything 

Just the warfare commander directing and ordering and informational calls which means there’s one person in charge

but since this is just a game, what wg has provided works fine because most of the player group in randoms don’t  take kindly to direction by other players.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, wtfovr said:

No if chat were like actual comm circuits there would be comm discipline and no chatter like there is in chat.

there is no one asking anyone for anything 

Just the warfare commander directing and ordering and informational calls which means there’s one person in charge

but since this is just a game, what wg has provided works fine because most of the player group in randoms don’t  take kindly to direction by other players.

 

 

The voice comm between units in Generation Kill was superb and often a blast to hear.

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Those all sound like administrative nets to me - while there is some tactical information being passed (using the SALUTE format), it doesn't sound like it's information being passed for immediate action, like a COF (Conduct of Fire) net, which is used to pass target location from a forward observer to a fire direction center for artillery/mortar fire, or a TACP net which is used to conduct close air support.

 

This might be TLDR I don't know.

There many different radio circuits that are used to provide command and control of warships.  There are both tactical nets and administrative nets. Usually in tactical nets, there is an established "format" in which information is passed, so that everyone understands what is being said using minimal transmission time. You can google "call for fire"/CFF http://blog.refactortactical.com/blog/call-for-fire/ or "close air support 9-line" https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B2C2777 Aviation Employment Considerations.pdf?ver=2015-03-26-101157-867

At least in the US Navy, several common circuits are normally monitored - the specific radio circuits are promulgated in a task force comm plan.

Typical circuits include:

  • Task Force Command
  • Task Force Tactical
  • various C&R nets
  • international safety frequencies - Guard (IAD 121.5Mhz/MAD 243.0 Mhz) / Lifeboat (8364khz) / Distress (2182Mhz) / Safety (156.8Mhz)
  • additional nets dedicated to specific purposes like fighter control, MPA control, naval gunfire control, marshal control, datalink coordination and several datalinks

for example if you want to have all the ships get in a column formation and steam smartly into port for a pass and review, that is done over TF Tactical.

The signals used come from the NATO ATP-1 publication. To get all of the ship in a column you might say something like this over the radio: "All stations in November, this is Alfa November, Execute to Follow, FORM ONE."  All of the other ships in the task force, respond in call sign order.  At the same time, the ship that Alfa November is aboard, closes up two signals on the flaghoist. A FORMation signal, and a ONE signal (not the Pennant One/Unaone signal).

Everyone, goes to the ATP-1 signal book and in the book is the instructions on how to form a column, which ship becomes the guide ship and what spacing and interval to use.

The other ships in the task force, respond by flying an identical FORM ONE signal on the flaghoist at the dip (half-mast).   When the individual ships figure out what they need to do to get their ship into position to execute the FORM ONE, the signal is then closed up (raised to full mast).

After all the ships in the task force have closed up FORM ONE, then over Tactical "All stations in November, this is Alfa November, FORM ONE, Standby, EXECUTE." at the same time, the FORM ONE signal on the flaghoist is brought down.  All of the other ships, bring down their FORM ONE and execute whatever course and speed changes are needed to get their ship into position.

If there is EMCON in effect (emissions control) so no radio comms being used. Then the same thing can be done entirely by flaghoist (or flashing light) without the use of the radio.

To turn the formation, you use TURN or CORPEN signals.  TURN is used to turn the entire formation simultaneously, CORPEN is used to make a turn, but everyone follows the wake of the ship in front (normally) or to wheel the formation (everyone turns at their own time, but ends up in the same relative position in relation to the other ships just on a different heading)

There are several sections of the ATP-1 dedicated to controlling gunnery actions with the TWO flag. and there is a SAG (Surface Action Group) control section with all of the signals used to control surface gunnery.

 

The signal BRAVO ZULU is also in the signal book.   It's decoded as "Well Done"  so that's why you'll hear people that have any navy time say BZ instead of GG (which by the way also has a specific meaning in the signal book - and it doesn't decode as "Good Game.")

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On 6.8.2018 at 12:39 AM, KURT_WOLFF said:

Achtung.  Deutschland Uber Alles   !

Ohne der Grammatik Nazi sein zu wollen: das heißt über (oder ueber in englisch). :Smile_hiding:

:Smile_teethhappy::Smile_teethhappy::Smile_teethhappy:

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