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Can the Indianapolis be repaired?

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Just like the title.  Even when I am hit by a dd there is nothing to repair.  Last game I took 4 separate hits from a BB...no cits...just solid whacks....nothing to repair.  I have been watching this and it is happening every game.  So...is this how it is with this cruiser?

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Nope tier 7 ships usually do not get the repair party option unless its RN cruisers.  Those are the only exception in the game so far.

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...Cruisers don't have repair. Well, non british ones, anyway. And non-Argentine ones. And non-T9+ ones.

 

Okay, some cruisers have repair. But most don't.

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10 minutes ago, Shatara422 said:

...Cruisers don't have repair. Well, non british ones, anyway. And non-Argentine ones. And non-T9+ ones.

 

Okay, some cruisers have repair. But most don't.

Honestly, I wish that all cruisers down to, say, tier 5 had Repair Parties.  As much as people bemoan the squishiness of cruisers, repair parties would seem to go a long way to helping them be at least a bit more survivable.  After all, consider how people are saying that the Grozovoi, the "other" tier 10 Russian DD, is much better after being given repair parties.

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27 minutes ago, Crucis said:

Do your best to not get hit.

Or make sure you angle to make sure it bounces.

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47 minutes ago, torpsRus said:

Nope tier 7 ships usually do not get the repair party option unless its RN cruisers.  Those are the only exception in the game so far.

Except Boise and Nueve De Julio, which have a British type heal.

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1 minute ago, Umikami said:

Except Boise and Nueve De Julio, which have a heal.

Wasn't aware of that one.

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1 hour ago, Crucis said:

Honestly, I wish that all cruisers down to, say, tier 5 had Repair Parties.  As much as people bemoan the squishiness of cruisers, repair parties would seem to go a long way to helping them be at least a bit more survivable.  After all, consider how people are saying that the Grozovoi, the "other" tier 10 Russian DD, is much better after being given repair parties.

I don't think this would be a good idea honestly. Cruisers being squishy teaches you how to avoid incoming fire and use your hit points effectively. If you give people repair party at tier 5 they would start to use it as an excuse almost to rushin know that they could just heal some damage if they don't die. Cruisers are support ships primarily so there is no reason for them to need to heal, (exception being the few that have them, RN cruisers, and others). Using the Grozovoi as a comparison in this case is a bad one because dds with repair parties ( Kidd, and Grozovoi) are special cases but they eat damage and get focused much more than bbs or cruisers.

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1 hour ago, BUNNYHUGGERI said:

Just like the title.  Even when I am hit by a dd there is nothing to repair.  Last game I took 4 separate hits from a BB...no cits...just solid whacks....nothing to repair.  I have been watching this and it is happening every game.  So...is this how it is with this cruiser?

Only low or mid tier cruisers that get Repair Party are Graf Spee and Royal Navy Cruisers. Prinz Eugen And Atago get Repair at tier 8, and most or all tier 9 and 10 cruisers get Repair Party.

Other than these you can’t heal damage, best you can do is try to dodge enemy fire and carry premium damage control as well as Captain skill to better prevent or halt damage being done. Also using catapult fighters and defensive AA against aircraft or using hydro to help pick up on torpedoes can help prevent damage as well.

Cruisers are able to have often good Concealment, some armor, good speed, relatively compact size on many of them, and high rate of fire. So not getting Repair on most of them does make sense. Especially considering  they can Torpedo or burn Battleships, blow Destroyers out of the water, shoot down aircraft, and fight other cruisers.

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I don't think y'all are getting the question. He's asking why, when he takes damage, is none of it repairable damage?

Partial answer: Some damage (such as from fire) is repairable; some is not (citadels?).

Watch the How It Works series, starting here:

Also reference the Game Mechanics sections of the Wiki

 

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46 minutes ago, torpsRus said:

Wasn't aware of that one.

Only way I found out was beating the crap out of one and watching it's health climb back up when it ran back to it's big friends; ya know I really hate that!

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1 hour ago, torpsRus said:

Nope tier 7 ships usually do not get the repair party option unless its RN cruisers.  Those are the only exception in the game so far.

Boise, the other version of Boise, and Graf Spee say Hello.

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35 minutes ago, Panic512 said:

I don't think this would be a good idea honestly. Cruisers being squishy teaches you how to avoid incoming fire and use your hit points effectively. If you give people repair party at tier 5 they would start to use it as an excuse almost to rushin know that they could just heal some damage if they don't die. Cruisers are support ships primarily so there is no reason for them to need to heal, (exception being the few that have them, RN cruisers, and others). Using the Grozovoi as a comparison in this case is a bad one because dds with repair parties ( Kidd, and Grozovoi) are special cases but they eat damage and get focused much more than bbs or cruisers.

I have to disagree.  Cruisers would be no less squishy with repair parties.  Repair parties wouldn't make them one bit less vulnerable to getting dev striked.  All that repair parties would do is give them a little more, for lack of a better term, "endurance" when it comes to having their HP slowly chipped away.

As for the DDs with repair parties, you missed the point, I think.  My point was that people consider the Groz to be a lot better after gaining the repair party, with the core of the point being that adding a repair party can change people's perception about a given ship.  Just like adding repair parties to all tier 5+ cruisers could be seen to be somewhat better, somewhat more durable over a long fight, even if they remained pretty damned squishy and vulnerable to the massive strike.

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I honestly feel that every ship should get some form of repair party. 
Obviously not the standard repair party, but a significantly nerfed repair party. A one time Heal 5%-10% (or two times if you do premium) 
I can't imagine the crew of a ship to be like "Aw fiddlesticks, nothing we can do about a small bit of damage, let's give up" 
If Kidd and Khaba can get some repair parties, let's give the cruisers tiny repair parties. lol

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1 hour ago, Crucis said:

I have to disagree.  Cruisers would be no less squishy with repair parties.  Repair parties wouldn't make them one bit less vulnerable to getting dev striked.  All that repair parties would do is give them a little more, for lack of a better term, "endurance" when it comes to having their HP slowly chipped away.

As for the DDs with repair parties, you missed the point, I think.  My point was that people consider the Groz to be a lot better after gaining the repair party, with the core of the point being that adding a repair party can change people's perception about a given ship.  Just like adding repair parties to all tier 5+ cruisers could be seen to be somewhat better, somewhat more durable over a long fight, even if they remained pretty damned squishy and vulnerable to the massive strike.

I didn't miss the point, I understood what you are getting at. I get that cruisers would still be squishy even with a repair party, but part of how much HP is chipped at for a cruiser captain comes down to their skills as a captain and being able to position themselves successfully enough  to avoid damage.

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11 minutes ago, Panic512 said:

I didn't miss the point, I understood what you are getting at. I get that cruisers would still be squishy even with a repair party, but part of how much HP is chipped at for a cruiser captain comes down to their skills as a captain and being able to position themselves successfully enough  to avoid damage.

I just think that making cruisers a little more durable in long battles would be a good thing.  For one thing, giving them repair parties and being able to use them rewards not getting yourself dev striked.  No matter how good one is, being chipped away is going to be a fact of life, unless perhaps you're in a tier 9 or 10 cruiser with nearly 20 km range where you have plenty of time to dodge if fighting at those extreme ranges.    But if you're fighting at closer to 10km than 20 km, you will be far less able to dodge shells, for no other reason than shell flight times are lower and you have much less time to dodge incoming shells (assuming that you're not fighting from behind islands and lobbing shells over said islands while unspotted).

 

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In WW2 Cruisers would have a DD screen, but in this game they often push with or just behind the DDs and often get seen first do to their spotting size.

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It might be kinda hard to repair Indianapolis since she's under 18,000 feet of water and sorta broken up. :Smile_hiding:

 

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4 hours ago, Umikami said:

Except Boise and Nueve De Julio, which have a British type heal.

I believe the Abruzzi also has a heal Tier 7

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6 hours ago, Crucis said:

I have to disagree.  Cruisers would be no less squishy with repair parties.  Repair parties wouldn't make them one bit less vulnerable to getting dev striked.  All that repair parties would do is give them a little more, for lack of a better term, "endurance" when it comes to having their HP slowly chipped away.

As for the DDs with repair parties, you missed the point, I think.  My point was that people consider the Groz to be a lot better after gaining the repair party, with the core of the point being that adding a repair party can change people's perception about a given ship.  Just like adding repair parties to all tier 5+ cruisers could be seen to be somewhat better, somewhat more durable over a long fight, even if they remained pretty damned squishy and vulnerable to the massive strike.

In which case, the battles would be prolonged affairs. It would be good for the player POV, but lousy for WG business model They want as much "churn" as possible.

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4 hours ago, Solitary_Stalker said:

I believe the Abruzzi also has a heal Tier 7

Does it? I know nothing about that cruiser, so it certainly may.

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7 hours ago, Umikami said:

Does it? I know nothing about that cruiser, so it certainly may.

She does, though it doesn‘t change it that every shell that hits her is a citadel, and that she is a free Devastating Strike for the enemy :Smile_veryhappy:

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