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Flamu: "The Best T10 Battleship"

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Flamu has a new, very long 50 minute video trying to answer a question that is often sent his way.  Even then, he can't give a straight answer as a clear cut, "Best T10 Battleship."  He goes into the different strengths and weaknesses of each of the Tier X BBs.  Lots of good information for those wondering which line to go down and attain the Tier X.  Normally for this kind of information, you'll have to dive into different videos, but IMO, this is a very good One Stop Shop of information on all the Tier X BBs.

It's a long video, but a lot of this information is important.  It's a good overview of the most balanced, competitive Battleship tier in the game.  And it's in Tier X, of all places.

Time Stamps one of the posters made.

Introduction

Mechanics - Overmatch & HE Penetration - Ships live and die by this information, both Cruisers and Battleships to massive degrees.

Yamato

Montana

Großer Kurfürst

Conqueror

République

Conclusion

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Yea good info that was a good watch and he changed his screen name lol 

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I suspected he wouldn't give a clear answer, not that he should as I think they're all pretty balanced for the most part. Probably just worried if he picked a favorite all the fan boys would line up to buy said BB, suck in it, then blame him cuz the internet...

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We should call Yamato the tier 10 battleship of the highest skill ceiling...
Afterall, it's the only tier 10 battleship with an actual citadel :Smile_playing:

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Personally,

 

I love my Republique better than any of my other tier 10 bb's. The only other T10 BB i'd play is my Montana. Other than that, the Republique.. just an amazing ship. She rekts everything imo.

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4 hours ago, HeathenForay said:

I suspected he wouldn't give a clear answer, not that he should as I think they're all pretty balanced for the most part. Probably just worried if he picked a favorite all the fan boys would line up to buy said BB, suck in it, then blame him cuz the internet...

I agree to an extent.  I know for example, that he hates Conqueror to no end, but he gives everything an equal shake down, talking about strengths and weaknesses.

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54 minutes ago, DevilFreak_ said:

I love my Republique better than any of my other tier 10 bb's. The only other T10 BB i'd play is my Montana. Other than that, the Republique.. just an amazing ship. She rekts everything imo.

 

We need more HE spamming cruiser in queue :Smile_playing:
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He refrained himself from saying Conqueror is broken as he often said it which is a bit amusing hearing him insisting on "very frustrating and annoying".

 

But it's a good guide for new BB player. 

 

 

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If you look closely on his presentation, his criteria is:

1. Overmatch

2. Alpha damage

3. DPM - Note he mentions the Sigma values repeatedly.

4. Survivability- note that includes the concealment values and citadel placement

5. AA

6. Consumables

His evaluation is based on Ranked/ Clan Wars setting. If it works there, it will work on Random most of the time.

Also note he makes his evaluations also on being against BB/CA/DD.

The bow tanking CA's making love to their island waifus requires either using a spotter plane or finding an unprotected flank to engage them in Clan Wars.  You also require artillery that can over match the armor or deliver a high alpha strike. Only the Yamato and Montana have spotter planes, IIRC. I'm not sure if the Kurfurst has a spotter plane consumable.

Best against other BB's - Conqueror

Best against CA's - Yamato or Montana. Note that Conqueror has the capability to pull ambushes against CA's

So, in a Clan Wars setting, BB's I'd consider using/have used are:

1. Yamato

2, Montana

3. Conqueror 

 

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6 hours ago, Bill_Halsey said:

So, in a Clan Wars setting, BB's I'd consider using/have used are:

1. Yamato

2, Montana

3. Conqueror 

Pretty much what I saw in my limited matches. Sometimes a Grober thrown in. Can't say I ever saw a Republique.

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Funny. I swear I saw a Creed or Flame/Flambass vid with a Repub. 

I see a lot of Montana and Conq from other vids though. 

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On 7/23/2018 at 7:54 AM, Bill_Halsey said:

If you look closely on his presentation, his criteria is:

1. Overmatch

2. Alpha damage

3. DPM - Note he mentions the Sigma values repeatedly.

4. Survivability- note that includes the concealment values and citadel placement

5. AA

6. Consumables

His evaluation is based on Ranked/ Clan Wars setting. If it works there, it will work on Random most of the time.

Also note he makes his evaluations also on being against BB/CA/DD.

The bow tanking CA's making love to their island waifus requires either using a spotter plane or finding an unprotected flank to engage them in Clan Wars.  You also require artillery that can over match the armor or deliver a high alpha strike. Only the Yamato and Montana have spotter planes, IIRC. I'm not sure if the Kurfurst has a spotter plane consumable.

Best against other BB's - Conqueror

Best against CA's - Yamato or Montana. Note that Conqueror has the capability to pull ambushes against CA's

So, in a Clan Wars setting, BB's I'd consider using/have used are:

1. Yamato

2, Montana

3. Conqueror 

 

 

On 7/23/2018 at 2:09 PM, Sabot_100 said:

Pretty much what I saw in my limited matches. Sometimes a Grober thrown in. Can't say I ever saw a Republique.

Have seen Republique BBs in Clan Battle and they seem to be only other ship in Chan Battkes other than my Yamato that can actually hit really hard.

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6 hours ago, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

Have seen Republique BBs in Clan Battle and they seem to be only other ship in Chan Battkes other than my Yamato that can actually hit really hard.

I haven't seen one yet but my Clan Battle experience is probably more limited than yours. I assume they are relatively rare. I drive a Henri (my only T10) and I don't see many of those but have seen a couple. It probably isn't an optimal choice either.

With the new Legendary upgrades, will there be any other choice except Yamato?

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3 hours ago, Sabot_100 said:

I haven't seen one yet but my Clan Battle experience is probably more limited than yours. I assume they are relatively rare. I drive a Henri (my only T10) and I don't see many of those but have seen a couple. It probably isn't an optimal choice either.

With the new Legendary upgrades, will there be any other choice except Yamato?

Republique with that special French Captain can be a beast as well. 

Everyone says Montana is supposed to be “ so great” but neither myself or anyone in my clan has seen that, at least not this clan wars season. And Conqueror is pretty soft, but is still a BB I guess. True threats this season have bee Yamato, Republique, and Kurfurst.

Think it boils down to the armor, main guns, and if the secondary guns can spit enough he shells to discourage DDs or kill them. Clan battles you often do get escorted and coordination from your team if you have some practice, so that changes things as well such as the ability to actually get closer to enemy ships. I have frequently decided Skirmishes in CB with close range BB brawls  as we both attempt to use Everything on ships to kill the other and sometimes have even ended up trying to ram the other of we feel like we are looking the brawl,o r even CAs have done this as well. Been a lot of fun since win or lose I enjoy those kind of fights, maybe because I also like the Pirates of the Carribean movies? Lol

Montana onnthe other hand really shines in Randoms with the long range guns and great AA and a little secondary gun power to scare the clueless players a little. But Clan Wars often has more experienced players and lacks CVs.

Conqueror is slightly different in the fact it takes advantage of the players in Randoms that mismanage skills and damage control assets to burn them down.

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