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Proposal: IZUMO "D HULL"

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I submit my proposed "Final" hull for the Izumo.

Changes:

  • Removal of most 127 mm/40 Type89 A1 mod. 2 guns
  • Addition of 100mm/65 Type98 AA guns 20 rounds per minute, 10.1Km range with secondary mod.

Final proposed design for rear turrets implemented

  • 3X Triple 155 mm/60 3rd Year Type turrets, 5 rounds per minute, 8.4km range with secondary mod.

This hull would create a unique playstyle from Musashi and Yamato. The front tankiness of the Izumo would get it into brawling ranges to unleash it's secondaries.

Additional grind to D hull would add incentive to purchase the permanent camouflage, which will earn wargaming money on doubloon purchases, and encourage a non-wasteful use of free xp. Instead of being skipped, she will now be a useful ship with her own role to play.

This would increase the diversity of battle lineups as well, which is a positive thing.

It would be a small amount of work to create, the citadel for the rear guns can be copy-pasted, and the new secondary mounts can be taken directly from the Kii data files and applied to Izumo. The A hull could be made the stock hull, and the new "D' hull could replace the "C" hull if WG desires. This would make a large amount of players happy to have a more user friendly ship, a ship they might keep, and a high tier ship with a unique playstyle.

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Turn the backwards main turret around and make it super firing and we would have a winner, or a least something better than the current setup.

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Unless you are going full IFHE secondary Izumo (which I don't really see a point in) I see this D-hull mostly as an AA upgrade.
Yamato B hull with 100mm dp gun reinforced AA when? :trollface:

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13 minutes ago, The_first_harbinger said:

Yamato B hull with 100mm dp gun reinforced AA when? :trollface:

The Shinano was originally going to have the 100mm dual mounts before the decision to convert her into the carrier was made.

 

Warship number 111 and 797 of the Yamato class would've had the 100mm mounts as well and maybe just maybe WG could incorporate those ships like the Salem or Stalingrad

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44 minutes ago, Vader_Sama said:

The Shinano was originally going to have the 100mm dual mounts before the decision to convert her into the carrier was made.

 

Warship number 111 and 797 of the Yamato class would've had the 100mm mounts as well and maybe just maybe WG could incorporate those ships like the Salem or Stalingrad

Since they are handing out T10s for sale now via alternate currency, I don't see why not.  It might require some other changes, but it's not a bad idea.

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One of Izumo's defining characteristics is her basically non-existent AA defense. Rather than giving her actual AA make her a secondary monster. Replace all 127mm mounts with more triple 155mm mounts and fill up all that empty deck with more 155mm guns. Oh and switch around the C turret and make it more Nelson style. :Smile_playing:

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The setup is similar to A140-A, 155mm secondary-wise, but I'd go with actually giving her some superstructure more similar to Yamato, and better AA placement, similar to Tzoli's take. The only changes being less AA overall, and only keeping or upgrading Izumo C's current 127mm DPs to 100mm DPs, and being redistributed for better firing arcs.

Failing that, better distribution of her DP mounts, replacing the hangar with 3x more 155s, and just adding 2 more DP mounts raised aft of the funnel, like this rendition of the A-140/A design, just with 4-6 more DP mounts placed around the mast, with a few raised for better firing arcs.

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Tzoli A-140 w/ Yamato-esque Superstructure and DP/AA Setup

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Artist's Interpretation of the A-140/A Design

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Another A-140/A Design Rendition

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11 hours ago, Vader_Sama said:

The Shinano was originally going to have the 100mm dual mounts before the decision to convert her into the carrier was made.

Warship number 111 and 797 of the Yamato class would've had the 100mm mounts as well and maybe just maybe WG could incorporate those ships like the Salem or Stalingrad

Honestly, the revised designs for Shinano and the later Yamato-class would easily make for a T10 regular of another line split as well as Premium. Whichever WG decides to do, if they ever do.

As mentioned, BB Shinano was planned to have the 127mm DPs replaced with the 100mm DPs found on Akizuki. As well though, there were additional refinements made to the design. Shinano and her following sisters would trade some excess armoring on the guns for slightly faster traverse speed, and the hull armor would have also been redistributed to further improve citadel/middle area protection. If BB Shinano or Yamato-class sisters 111 and 797 ever went into the game in that form, they would be superior to Yamato. Faster traverse, better long-range AA, and a more armored citadel. And if the 100mm buffs go through, better secondaries too. That pretty much sounds like a solid Steel ship, or a 1-line split from Yamato that requires having researched Yamato, and costing as much as an FXP ship at 750k XP, if not double or triple (since XP is easier to earn than FXP).

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How about we just scrap this ship totally, and replace it with Musashi.

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11 hours ago, crzyhawk said:

Since they are handing out T10s for sale now via alternate currency, I don't see why not.  It might require some other changes, but it's not a bad idea.

No. shinano should be in the game as a higher tier CV with the hanger reworked so the some odd 200 planes it carried could be used. The Historical being 20 A7M Fighters, 20 B7A bombers, 7 scout planes (we can get rid of those) with a hanger of 120 replacement aircraft.

and make the overall hanger size to something say 55 Fighters, 56 torpedo bombers, 56 dive bombers maybe like tier 8 or 9 planes

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12 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

How about we just scrap this ship totally, and replace it with Musashi.

I would take it; only because that would rename Musashi into Izumo, thus freeing up Musashi for a proper T10 that trades a bit of AA and accuracy for longer-ranged secondaries and rudder shift.

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1 hour ago, JessieTheKitty said:

No. shinano should be in the game as a higher tier CV with the hanger reworked so the some odd 200 planes it carried could be used. The Historical being 20 A7M Fighters, 20 B7A bombers, 7 scout planes (we can get rid of those) with a hanger of 120 replacement aircraft.

and make the overall hanger size to something say 55 Fighters, 56 torpedo bombers, 56 dive bombers maybe like tier 8 or 9 planes

There were two other Yamato class ships planned. 

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