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I was joking with a buddy last night about buffing the Huang Meh. They should make it a cruiser without a citadel. But mah balance. Well my response to that if they want balance stop making DD's with competitive HP pools with cruisers or give the CL the DD gimmick of no citadel.

DD's with competitive HP pools, gun range and concealment of Huang Meh just off the top of my head.

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All RU DD's boats above tier 8.

I don't really have a dog in the Huang Meh hunt it was just the impression I got after playing it last night and I realized that my max range and concealment and HP were all similar to the RU DD's I know and love.

Thoughts on this underplayed ship?

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I've had pretty good luck with it in operations. Load it out for anti-air and rush the 3 CVs on Aegis. The planes melt fast and the Huang He is maneuverable enough to dodge the torps that do get dropped. I use the creeping smoke to blast away at the escort cruisers with impunity, too. I just have to be careful not to get too close and get spotted in smoke. My overall damage isn't as high as what I can get in other cruisers but I still make a solid contribution to the team.

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She's just not a good ship. She needs a lot for her to be competitive when Perth does most everything she does but better.

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3 minutes ago, Doomlock said:

She's just not a good ship. She needs a lot for her to be competitive when Perth does most everything she does but better.

Yep the only thing she does well is train Pan-Asian DDs to their 10th skill point if you don't have a 19 point capt. The premium Pan-Asian DDs then take over at that point.

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1 hour ago, Rumple010 said:

I've had pretty good luck with it in operations. Load it out for anti-air and rush the 3 CVs on Aegis. The planes melt fast and the Huang He is maneuverable enough to dodge the torps that do get dropped. I use the creeping smoke to blast away at the escort cruisers with impunity, too. I just have to be careful not to get too close and get spotted in smoke. My overall damage isn't as high as what I can get in other cruisers but I still make a solid contribution to the team.

She does really good on most scenarios. One of my favorites.

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I have tons of fun in her and can get some really monster games.  No buff, let people continue to underestimate her, I’ll use her without too much concern in a T6 ranked season.

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2 hours ago, IronMike11B4O said:

I was joking with a buddy last night about buffing the Huang Meh. They should make it a cruiser without a citadel. But mah balance. Well my response to that if they want balance stop making DD's with competitive HP pools with cruisers or give the CL the DD gimmick of no citadel.

DD's with competitive HP pools, gun range and concealment of Huang Meh just off the top of my head.

Akizuki

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All RU DD's boats above tier 8.

I don't really have a dog in the Huang Meh hunt it was just the impression I got after playing it last night and I realized that my max range and concealment and HP were all similar to the RU DD's I know and love.

Thoughts on this underplayed ship?

It's an odd duck, you have to look at the whole package. Great concealment, smoke, torpedoes on a fast reload and reload booster, good AA. If you're not using those assets you will feel very underpowered.

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It's not a 'bad' ship.  It gets the moniker "Huang Meh" mostly because there isn't one area that's a major strength.  As some have said, the Perth does many of the same things, and does them better.  But it's not a 'weak' ship.  A bit squishy, yes.  But that's true of any T6 cruiser.  

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21 minutes ago, ZARDOZ_II said:

It's not a 'bad' ship.  It gets the moniker "Huang Meh" mostly because there isn't one area that's a major strength.  As some have said, the Perth does many of the same things, and does them better.  But it's not a 'weak' ship.  A bit squishy, yes.  But that's true of any T6 cruiser.  

^This^. She aint a bad bote, she doesn't really shine at anything, like a lot of the ships in WoWs. I've played her in about 10 Randoms and did pretty good with her. Personally, I like HuangHe.

But, as others have said, she doesn't bring anything to the table that Perth doesn't have, except better guns. (I'd love to arm Perth with HuangHe's guns)

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34 minutes ago, ReddNekk said:

But, as others have said, she doesn't bring anything to the table that Perth doesn't have, except better guns.

I think Huang Meh has better AA.  But if I go into Ops with Perth I typically slot the fighter instead of the spotter.  

But yeah, love to have these guns on Perth.  

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Not much you can do to improve it. Only 6 guns, 3 mediocre torpedoes...maybe buff up the secondaries, even the Perth's 102's are better than the 100's on the Huanghe. It's supposed to be a post war weapons system, so maybe longer range & faster reload for the secondaries would keep the DD's from rushing my smoke when they realize is just a harmless huanghe....

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I think if Hang me and Perth got a faster cooldown on their smoke consumable, like Haida, they would be more useful.

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there's lots of good ways to make her a fun ship. (and make quality of life better.) 

Rate of fire first. 

Maybe crazy good concealment. 

and 5 sec torp reloader. 

Rather good AA. It could be the stealthy DD hunter at T6

 

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5 hours ago, bigalow87 said:

Not much you can do to improve it. Only 6 guns, 3 mediocre torpedoes...maybe buff up the secondaries, even the Perth's 102's are better than the 100's on the Huanghe. It's supposed to be a post war weapons system, so maybe longer range & faster reload for the secondaries would keep the DD's from rushing my smoke when they realize is just a harmless huanghe....

LOL I want them to rush my smoke. I have sonar going allowing me and my team-mates to kill them as they approach. When I smoke I start kiting away most times since when it runs out I need to be 9km or 8km away depending on my captain. This keeps the chasers spotted even longer.

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5 hours ago, Raiiako said:

there's lots of good ways to make her a fun ship. (and make quality of life better.) 

Rate of fire first. 

Maybe crazy good concealment. 

and 5 sec torp reloader. 

Rather good AA. It could be the stealthy DD hunter at T6

 

She already has very good concealment for a cruiser. Just follow behind the DDs headed for a cap and let them uncover the enemy DDs. The problem is she's team dependent for me. You need the DDs to spot for you while in smoke and you need to spot while your DDs are smoked up. That's the problem very rarely do you see any cooperation or tactics in randoms.

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18 minutes ago, Mainerd said:

You need the DDs to spot for you while in smoke and you need to spot while your DDs are smoked up. That's the problem very rarely do you see any cooperation or tactics in randoms.

Which is why in Randoms, the Perth is a better ship.  You can use the spotter so you're not as team dependent.  

Now a division composed of Perth/Huang He would be fun.  Especially if all of them had the special smoke module mounted and/or the captain skill that gives the weed generator a larger diameter cloud.  One spots and doesn't fire while the other two rain HE spam from the weed cloud.

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