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Just got to Republique and Alsace is definitely a keeper

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Nice game op

 

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Really been enjoying the Alsace and Republique. 

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Alsace is great, but it's going to be hit by a nerf soon, sadly

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True the Alsace is too good and will be Nerfed in the next up grade 

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Alsace is a great high tier brawler. I loved the Alsace, but haven't found that same love with the Republique. 

Nice game! I've had some good games in her like that. 

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16 minutes ago, KURT_WOLFF said:

True the Alsace is too good and will be Nerfed in the next up grade 

How about the other tier 9's are the ones that suck and they need buffs to make them more competitive? Alsace should be the standard for how all tier 9 BB's perform.

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I also play Alsace as best I can before the "nerf" takes effect. Yes she has performed well, but I get the distinct ...feeling there is another agenda in relation to her getting murdered. Couple months down the road, she won't be mentioned at all. Fall by the wayside, a pain to grind through and everybody will leave her in port. Sad really

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nobody will get the jean bart free xp ship if the alsace stays as is. the jean bart will have beast AA but thats about it. i miss the alsace, was my favorite bb in the whole game. 

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Alsace isn't overpowered, Wargaming is only nerfing it to get more people to buy Jean Bart.

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I watched someone's CC discussion (Notser?) about the nerfs...they didn't seem that bad. Anyone want to set me straight here? I am on the Normandie - 71% WR and I am not a BB player. wth?!

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14 minutes ago, Highlord said:

Alsace isn't overpowered, Wargaming is only nerfing it to get more people to buy Jean Bart.

The statistics say otherwise but slight buffs to the other tech tree ships would have been better in my opinion.

https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/4180621136,Alsace/

                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 

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15 minutes ago, Thornir said:

I watched someone's CC discussion (Notser?) about the nerfs...they didn't seem that bad. Anyone want to set me straight here? I am on the Normandie - 71% WR and I am not a BB player. wth?!

Alsace has the smallest gun caliber at tier and an already shotgun-like grouping with the 1.7 sigma and German dispersion formula, and her reload time is already on the slow end at 30s when some of the other 15 inch guns she sees in her MM have 26s reload; she already gives up quite a bit to get 12 guns at T9.  Further worsening both those stats at once is too much.

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18 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

The statistics say otherwise but slight buffs to the other tech tree ships would have been better in my opinion.

https://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/4180621136,Alsace/

                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 
                 

It's roughly equal to Missouri in standing, tied for second place below Mushashi.  It's a top-end tech tree ship that still falls behind a pair of effectively cash ships.  That it's getting nerfed with that standing is pretty dammed telling. 

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19 minutes ago, landcollector said:

Alsace has the smallest gun caliber at tier and an already shotgun-like grouping with the 1.7 sigma and German dispersion formula, and her reload time is already on the slow end at 30s when some of the other 15 inch guns she sees in her MM have 26s reload; she already gives up quite a bit to get 12 guns at T9.  Further worsening both those stats at once is too much.

The only reason the idiotic and blatantly calculated for profit nerfs seem to not hurt much is because the Alsace works best with a secondary build at close range, where bad sigma doesn't hurt much.  The reload nerf is absolutely unwarranted, poorly thought out, will be even more poorly implemented, and is going in only to make Jean Bart look better.  Wargaming is deliberately making Alsace uniquely weak in areas where other ships with her gun type are capable, and they're doing it to make room for a cash ship.

That they're trying to sneak the nerfs in by saying Alsace is overpowered is as transparent as it is pathetic.

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17 minutes ago, landcollector said:

Alsace has the smallest gun caliber at tier and an already shotgun-like grouping with the 1.7 sigma and German dispersion formula, and her reload time is already on the slow end at 30s when some of the other 15 inch guns she sees in her MM have 26s reload; she already gives up quite a bit to get 12 guns at T9.  Further worsening both those stats at once is too much.

Ah, I see. Still does well though. Interesting. Thank you

 

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11 minutes ago, Highlord said:

The only reason the idiotic and blatantly calculated for profit nerfs seem to not hurt much is because the Alsace works best with a secondary build at close range, where bad sigma doesn't hurt much.  The reload nerf is absolutely unwarranted, poorly thought out, will be even more poorly implemented, and is going in only to make Jean Bart look better.  Wargaming is deliberately making Alsace uniquely weak in areas where other ships with her gun type are capable, and they're doing it to make room for a cash ship.

In watching Flamu's WIP video, the guns on the JB are really going to suck, though. Only 8 340's...hmmm....

It does have that fast reload gimmick though. 3 salvos in 30 seconds? Still. only two 4 rifled turrets, both in front...

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1 minute ago, Thornir said:

In watching Flamu's WIP video, the guns on the JB are really going to suck, though. Only 8 340's...hmmm....

With better reload and sigma on a more mobile platform.

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1 hour ago, IronMike11B4O said:

How about the other tier 9's are the ones that suck and they need buffs to make them more competitive? Alsace should be the standard for how all tier 9 BB's perform.

Can't have the tier 9's competitive with Tier 10's, would defeat the whole "push them up the line, for more profit" business model...:Smile_teethhappy:

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9 minutes ago, awiggin said:

Can't have the tier 9's competitive with Tier 10's, would defeat the whole "push them up the line, for more profit" business model...:Smile_teethhappy:

Touche

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27 minutes ago, Highlord said:

It's roughly equal to Missouri in standing, tied for second place below Mushashi.  It's a top-end tech tree ship that still falls behind a pair of effectively cash ships.  That it's getting nerfed with that standing is pretty dammed telling. 

You ignored what I thought should be done instead but you and I are not devs.

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I don't own her but had a bad opinion from facing her. (Not the "op" bad but overrated)

Then last night I actually got into a nice bowjoust with one. Still thinking it is overrated a little but I can see the appeal. I think she would out brawl a FDG so her main battery can handle a slight nerf but can use a secondary buff vs BBs. Those little things are cute though. 

 

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