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The U.S.S. The Sullivans is in trouble

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The museum ship The U.S.S. The Sullivans has apparently developed a crack in her hull, and is flooding. The Buffalo and Erie County Naval Park has pumps in place. But the full extent of the damage is not yet known. 

 I threw a quick video together on this, and include links in the description for The Liberty Hound Bar that is donating a dollar from certain beer and cocktail sales, and has set up a donation drive on their FaceBook page as well. 

There are also links to the Naval Park website, which also has a “Support Us” tab where you can donate to the park as well.

 

and included links to Navaource.org ‘s pages on The Juneau and The Sullivans, as well as the Japanese Destroyer and submarine that sank the Juneau leading to the deaths of the 5 Sullivan brothers for whom The Sullivans is named.

Apologies for the scratchy mic, I tossed this together on my phone at work, because I wanted to get the word out quickly. 

Fair seas. https://youtu.be/79TnRxg75sg

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Adding her to the long list of museum ships that are in trouble and deserve rescue.

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I have come to the conclusion that museum ships particularly those that would be in salt water should get the Mikasa treatment and be permanently dry docked unless they are going to go to sea on a regular basis.

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1 minute ago, Lert said:

Adding her to the long list of museum ships that are in trouble and deserve rescue.

There’s a slew of CC’s aware of it, and now WG is as well ;-) even if thy can’t help, one has to exhaust the possibilities.

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Just now, BrushWolf said:

I have come to the conclusion that museum ships particularly those that would be in salt water should get the Mikasa treatment and be permanently dry docked unless they are going to go to sea on a regular basis.

Agreed, or in between, something like the USS Kidd’s semi floating rig. 

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Atlest Kidd Spends a lot of time out of water, and Laffey got the new hull not that long ago. 

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3 minutes ago, Shigure_DD said:

Atlest Kidd Spends a lot of time out of water, and Laffey got the new hull not that long ago. 

Well, Kidd is in the Mississippi at least; not salt water, but maybe not exactly ‘fresh’ either. (If Kidd is in a spot where the river isn’t constantly washing through, I wonder if they have issues with algae growing on the hull...)

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I note in the video that this could be an excellent use for nozoupforyiu’s idea of “skins” in game. A skin for the Juneau, and The Sullivans to go on the already existing Atlanta and Fletcher wouldn’t seem to mess with any hitboxes etc and be easier to implement than doing each ship as a completely new model. With proceeds from the Skins or heck, I’d love this Juneau camo as a permanent camo on my Atlanta, going to the effort.

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Just now, Estimated_Prophet said:

Well, Kidd is in the Mississippi at least; not salt water, but maybe not exactly ‘fresh’ either. (If Kidd is in a spot where the river isn’t constantly washing through, I wonder if they have issues with algae growing on the hull...)

True true. Sullivans is in Buffalo, so I’d imagine she’s in freshwater as well?

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3 minutes ago, Black_Jack_Honour said:

True true. Sullivans is in Buffalo, so I’d imagine she’s in freshwater as well?

Seems like.

(Holy cow... Looking at google maps, no wonder Buffalo get feets and more feets of lake-effect snow every year...)

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20 minutes ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

Seems like.

(Holy cow... Looking at google maps, no wonder Buffalo get feets and more feets of lake-effect snow every year...)

It’s probably built on snow that never melts ;-)

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46 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

I have come to the conclusion that museum ships particularly those that would be in salt water should get the Mikasa treatment and be permanently dry docked unless they are going to go to sea on a regular basis.

agreed, but drydocks are expensive.

 

The USS Texas has been trying to get her drydock for almost 11 years now.:Smile_amazed:

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4 minutes ago, BladedPheonix said:

agreed, but drydocks are expensive.

 

The USS Texas has been trying to get her drydock for almost 11 years now.:Smile_amazed:

Yes they are but in the long run they are less expensive than not using one.

 

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2 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

Yes they are but in the long run they are less expensive than not using one.

 

No argument there. though there is still the danger of salt from coastal areas causing some rust damage...:fish_aqua:

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7 minutes ago, BladedPheonix said:

The USS Texas has been trying to get her drydock for almost 11 years now.:Smile_amazed:

I wonder... Lack of funds holding things up? Or some disease-carrying, useless except maybe as bird/bat food, but rare striped mosquito in the nearby swamp/wetlands...

(Better not say how many of the little pests I killed the first time I visited the San Jacinto battleground and The Texas...)

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I'm a member of Tin Can Sailors.  Haven't heard anything through them.  Just sent an email to their offices (even though thy're probably closed).  Had been thinking about coming to the August Field Day up there.

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8 minutes ago, Estimated_Prophet said:

I wonder... Lack of funds holding things up? Or some disease-carrying, useless except maybe as bird/bat food, but rare striped mosquito in the nearby swamp/wetlands...

(Better not say how many of the little pests I killed the first time I visited the San Jacinto battleground and The Texas...)

It is a big investment up front. It is easier to get people to put up smaller amounts every once in awhile than a larger amount one time even if the net investment will be less over time.

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Just now, Estimated_Prophet said:

I wonder... Lack of funds holding things up? Or some disease-carrying, useless except maybe as bird/bat food, but rare striped mosquito in the nearby swamp/wetlands...

(Better not say how many of the little pests I killed the first time I visited the San Jacinto battleground and The Texas...)

I heard it was a simular issue that's happening to the ship mentioned above. a hurricane caused flooding damage in the bow. and a large amount of the drydock funds had to be used to keep the ship form sinking. its why WG had that Texas event 2 years ago.:fish_book:

 

sadly america's history is wasting away. particuarly our railroad history!

 

going on a  bit of a rant here

 

I remember riding and doing tons of events on this railroad when I was 5-8 years old.( we have family in Arkansas so we visit quite often)

 

but now its turned into this!

 

 

of the 3 steam engines, 2 are being left to rust while the 3rd which was supposed to be sent to the reading RR to be restored, has been rumored to be in parts. a number of the exibits have been scraped, destroyed or sold.

 

engine 201 was 1 of 12 who helped build the panama canal and only 1 of 3 of her entire class left in the world, and she is dishonored by being left to rust & rot!:Smile_sad:

 

The railroad just needs a little love and creative thinking. you could easily make a large amount of events centered around the railroad! I estimated that they would only need around 700K to get everything somewhat back to normal after restorations and a bit of land clearance to add some additional facilities to help maintain the engines.:Smile_amazed:

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53 minutes ago, Dr_Wigglespank said:

I can donate a roll or two:

 

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Quick, somebody email Phil Swift!

He should have enough flex tape, flex seal, and flex glue to repair both The Sullivans and USS Texas. :Smile_teethhappy:

I mean, come on, the guy literally cut a boat in half, and put it back together with Flex Tape! (and according to the infomercial, they used 12-inch wide tape, which obviously isn't available to the public!)

 

Off-topic Edit: Funny video on the Flex tape infomercial:

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2 hours ago, BarneyMM2 said:

I don't see anything about it on HNSA either, so I just sent them a message.

https://youtu.be/MwwZCDFIJjs

keep us posted. This is a local news station account. The dollar amounts are large, in comparison to what I recall the Texas needing, but I’m no expert on such things.

 I don’t think they’ll know a real dollar amount until they do a full stem to stern survey of the hull.

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I think all of the museum ships should be looked into because I bet most of them need help. I heard a while back that the North Carolina needed a lot of work as well. History is one thing that should always be persevered.

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