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ST, German battleship Prinz Eitel Friedrich, Tier VI

Hit points – 52 300. Plating - 25 mm. Armor belt – 300 mm. Torpedo damage reduction – 27%.

Main battery - 4x2 350 mm. Firing range – 17.8 km. Maximum HE shell damage – 4000. Chance to cause fire – 27%. Maximum AP shell damage - 10500. Reload time - 24 s. 180 degree turn time - 30 s. Maximum dispersion - 241 m. HE initial velocity - 815 m/s. AP initial velocity - 815 m/s. Sigma value – 2.0.

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4 hours ago, monpetitloup said:

Just intime for next ranked season maybe?

I'm getting the idea that steel is going to be obtainable in ranked & don't expect to see any lower tier ranked in the future (or people will be complaining about how easy it is to get steel for the Stalingrad).

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Well I would really enjoy a tier 6 ranked season.

This new battleship does look interesting, but I already have Sharnhorst so I might pass on this one. I already own to much premium battleships.

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11 hours ago, IfYouSeeKhaos said:

I'm getting the idea that steel is going to be obtainable in ranked & don't expect to see any lower tier ranked in the future (or people will be complaining about how easy it is to get steel for the Stalingrad).

While you may be right, the logic doesn’t make sense since there have been lower tier ranked in the past all of which contribute  steel. I would argue that ranking out in low tiers is actually harder given the ease of access and therefore increase in potatoery.

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Potential premium battlecruiser? Paint me interested. 300mm main armor belt to the Bayern's 350mm belt. Smaller main gun caliber, 350mm to Bayern's 380mm rifles, with a drastically faster rate of fire. Faster too, by about 3 knots. Tack a Sierra Mike flag on, bring her speed up close to 30 knots.

 

I am very interested.

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Actually the climb to rank 10 may vary but I think the T10 from rank 10-1 will stay...at least if steel is obtainable through ranked battles...but that is just my opinion & I have no "insider" info on it one way or the other.

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And of course, they had to make it a "what if" 1930s refit instead of the historically accurate ship. Instant garbage.

Seriously WG what is wrong with you?

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she looks cool to me ! I hope in future we will see the Lutzow at tier 5 in her historic form of course with improved AA we have to many cvs to make her workable with out a good  AA sweet . or perhaps the old iron Dog her self the Derfflinger of course I would want her as close to her WW1 lay out as they can make her and still give her good AA . 

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I'm more concerned with the aerodynamics of the AP shell than modernized versions of Mackensen. 35cm gun didn't get modernized AP.
The 35cm (13.78in) gun fired a slightly more aerodynamic shell compared to the Bayern's 38cm gun. L/3.6 vs L/3.5.
So hopefully the shells don't lose quite as much pen at distance for the caliber like Bayern does... (maybe WG make the AP great, regardless)

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Hey

Hopefully we can get a German BB with Dispersion and gun accuracy that they deserve; given the historical fact that German accuracy was among the very best especially in the WW1 to WW2 era.  The battle of Jutland proved German accuracy was double that of the RN and the ships were much better in almost every way.  Give the Konig it's 2.0 sigma back!

 

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3 hours ago, sasquatch_research said:

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Hopefully we can get a German BB with Dispersion and gun accuracy that they deserve; given the historical fact that German accuracy was among the very best especially in the WW1 to WW2 era.  The battle of Jutland proved German accuracy was double that of the RN and the ships were much better in almost every way.  Give the Konig it's 2.0 sigma back!

 

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Jutland was a barfight not a shootout, accuracy was not a significant contributing factor. 
Armor was a significant deciding factor, where the British were unable to take the damage the Germans pushed out due to their battlecruisers lacking in armor. The Germans stuck with tried and true heavy armor protecting vitals. 
Konig was also overpowered. High reload rate, good armor, good speed, and good accuracy? Please.

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5 hours ago, Seniorious said:

Jutland was a barfight not a shootout, accuracy was not a significant contributing factor. 
Armor was a significant deciding factor, where the British were unable to take the damage the Germans pushed out due to their battlecruisers lacking in armor. The Germans stuck with tried and true heavy armor protecting vitals. 
Konig was also overpowered. High reload rate, good armor, good speed, and good accuracy? Please.

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Konig was OP?  Really, then what about Giulio Cesare which is more than a match for the current Konig (or anyone else for that matter).  Konig had the same 30 sec. reload, same as any other, good armor (yes), good speed (comparable - Giulio, Kongo), Good accuracy, was 2.0 then got nerf'd to present sigma.  No complaining about the 2.0 sigma on the Warspite, not to mention it's great heal.  

As for Jutland; history is clear, both side took a beating but the Germans were better shots by 2 to 1 and the RN lost how many ships 3 to Germany's Zero.  They were also out numbered but yet it was proven they had better ships, better guns and better accuracy.  

 

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5 hours ago, sasquatch_research said:

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Konig was OP?  Really, then what about Giulio Cesare which is more than a match for the current Konig (or anyone else for that matter).  Konig had the same 30 sec. reload, same as any other, good armor (yes), good speed (comparable - Giulio, Kongo), Good accuracy, was 2.0 then got nerf'd to present sigma.  No complaining about the 2.0 sigma on the Warspite, not to mention it's great heal.  

As for Jutland; history is clear, both side took a beating but the Germans were better shots by 2 to 1 and the RN lost how many ships 3 to Germany's Zero.  They were also out numbered but yet it was proven they had better ships, better guns and better accuracy.  

 

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I mostly agree. Konig wasn't OP. Konig lacks alpha strike on 305mm shells and has a bit higher ROF this mean Konig excels at destroying cruisers..so what?
Konig is still vulnerable to fires. The higher ROF won't help much in that scenario against a barrage of fire from multiple cruisers. Nerf to from 2.0 to 1.8 was unnecessary. Apparently 1.9 sigma would've allowed Konig to remain 'OP'....
**Anyways I'm more concerned about P.E. Friedrich getting an AP shell drag of .4075 when Bayern has .4092 shell drag. Bayern's 38cm guns. fires an L/3.5 shell while the 35cm fires a L/3.6 shell. So shouldn't the AP drag for P..E. Friedrich be between .3975 and .4025???

The result of Jutland was due to a combination of armor, accuracy, and (lack of) fire prevention on British ships. Leaving hatches open, storing powder in turrets, etc. Germans also did alot more test fires with their naval guns whereas RN was hesitant to scratch the paint. And had higher quality optics.
Germans used all-steel gun barrels versus wire-wound barrels, possibly slightly better accuracy/less 'droop'. As well as less sensitive powder.
So while the accuracy is insignificant when discussing a few shells, even a minor advantage in accuracy when discussing thousands of shells makes a huge difference.

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