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On October 25, 1944 off the island of Samur the 3 destroyers, 4 escort destroyers, and 6 escort carriers of Taffy 3 turned back the Japanese Southern Force which tried to enter Leyte Gulf through the Surigao Strait. In honor of the "Destroyers that fought like Battleships" nozoupforu recommended an email campaign to have WOW develop a camo for the USS Fletcher that would give her the name of the USS Johnston along with the Hull # 577. I totally agree with this idea and would also recommend the escort destroyer USS Simms have a camo developed honoring the USS Samual B. Roberts, DD 413. This would be far more expeditious than developing a new premium ship and would still pay homage to the brave destroyers of Taffy 3. - Reb - IM1OleSalt

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Actually only one of the DE's, the Samuel B Roberts, engaged the Japanese and boy did that little DE engage. First with torpedoes blowing the bow off a cruiser. Then spending the next 40 (!!!) minutes emptying her magazines into another cruiser with fire that was so intense that the cruiser could not man her secondary guns and her main guns could not depress her mains low enough to fire at the impertinent little ship.

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John c Butler  Raymond and dennis the other DEs of Taffy 3 did fight they just didn’t run in with the Fletcher’s. 

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We got enough camo in the game already. A scenario in honor of Taffy 3 would be more appropriate.

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5 minutes ago, 1SneakyDevil said:

We got enough camo in the game already. A scenario in honor of Taffy 3 would be more appropriate.

I want them to add the camos 

 

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Couldn't agree more. Taffy 3 is one of the greatest stories of heroism against all odds in the US Navy in World War II. 

I think historical camo with hull number changes is a great and easy way to pay homage and give our ships a new flair at the same time. 

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33 minutes ago, IM1OleSalt said:

USS Samual B. Roberts, DD 413

DE-413. It's a John C Butler class destroyer escort. Don't think anything even close to the type exists in game. So, to be accurate on that one it would require a whole new ship. That said, 2 5 inch guns and only a single triple tube I think it is, could be interesting in lower/mid tier with a high reload rate to compensate lack of actual firepower.

That said - the Fletcher class ships well, we have Fletcher in game. Part of why we see "duplicate" ships (Kami clones, Tirp/Bis, Prinz, Loyang, etc) is the fact that they are essentially done and simply need some cosmetic changes or minor alterations.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the idea, in most cases, where this would be a thing to use camo's that maybe have different bonuses and all, Especially on ships like DD's where, quite frankly, it would be absurd to actually make all 100 or so of some classes as individual ships in game. However, for one like Johnston, well, the ship is made already basically, they just need to make her armament accurate to that ships configuration that day, change appearance, maybe add a tweak to it (repair party?) they don't sell 9's but if changes made make it an option as a tier 8 Fletcher well, now they have a ship that cost a fraction to make with lower dev time that instead of making the price of a camo (maybe 12 dollars) is making the price of a tier 8 DD (that's what, 40-50 dollars?). And first and foremost, they are a business, and money is the goal. I'd say your more likely to see a full ship of Johnston than a camo. 

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In accordance with www.navy.mil/navydata/nav_I the DD Hull #'s 409 - 420 were Sims class.

To WanderingGhost:

Good Day,

     I am here with hat in hand to eat crow. You are absolutely correct & I am wrong. DD 413 was the USS Mustin, a DD of some renoun in her own right - 13 Battle stars, served in both Atlantic & Pacific theaters, and survived WWII.

IM1OleSalt

 

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My late grandpa was on the USS Gambier bay during that battle.:fish_cute_2: 

 

Also, many players(myself included) have suggested that WG have a campaign dedicated to Taffy 3 with the final reward being a tier 5 or 6 Samual B. Roberts as a reward for completing the campaign and missions! and from the positive feed back we have been getting from mods/devs, we may in the near future have an event based around Taffy3!:fish_aqua:

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On ‎6‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 11:08 PM, WanderingGhost said:

as a tier 8 Fletcher

 There already is a premium Tier 8 Fletcher class .  The Kidd .

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On 6/22/2018 at 12:05 AM, BladedPheonix said:

My late grandpa was on the USS Gambier bay during that battle.:fish_cute_2: 

 

Also, many players(myself included) have suggested that WG have a campaign dedicated to Taffy 3 with the final reward being a tier 5 or 6 Samual B. Roberts as a reward for completing the campaign and missions! and from the positive feed back we have been getting from mods/devs, we may in the near future have an event based around Taffy3!:fish_aqua:

The Samuel B wouldn't work at that high a tier because even if given the speed it attained during the battle of 28 knots it would be too slow. Three would be better.

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On 6/22/2018 at 6:10 PM, Shatara422 said:

A website that conspicuously lack any listing of destroyer escorts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Samuel_B._Roberts_(DE-413)

www.navy.mil/navydata/ LISTS ALL ships constructed by the USS NAVy, you just have to make sure your looking at the right hull designation

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On 6/21/2018 at 9:34 PM, 1SneakyDevil said:

We got enough camo in the game already. A scenario in honor of Taffy 3 would be more appropriate.

A Battle of Samar Scenario, for both sides actually, would be legendary.

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