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Could we get another British premium, please?

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I know that Cossack is "in the works," but it would be nice to see something else coming down the pipe for the long-time under-represented Royal Navy.

Some thoughts off the top of my head would be:

Tier VIII: Vanguard

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Tier VI: Revenge

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Tier VI: Repulse (saving Renown for a BC tree).

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Tier VII: London

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Tier V: Agincourt

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Tier  IV: Erin (or Canada - whatever). 

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Tier VII: Dido

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Tier V: Exeter (basically a British version of Aoba... although I actually prefer York, her sister, though my guess is she's tech tree fodder). 

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Tier VI: Abdiel (yes, okay, I know a mine-laying cruiser is a pipe-dream... but they had such lovely lines. And look at that speed!). 

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Clearly, nothing can happen immediately. But I'd love to know that something other than Cossack/Haida was on the way. 

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+1 Agincourt

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Yes.. Ever since Belfast was shelved I hav ebeen looking forward to a new British Premium CA/CL 

 

Give me a cruiser and cossack, that + haida and mass will keep me occupied for a bit. 

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i vote for agincourt,revenge are just nerfed QE while renown is a battlecruiser,and if they follow hood's way,it wont be a "fun" ship .

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I wish Belfast would make a return. Alas, I know it's just a pipe dream and my AL captain Belfest is left without her name sake ship forever.

Nevertheless, I agree that a new RN Premium cruiser would be a definite plus.

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You are at least the 9001'st person to point out Vanguard.

How about something that isn't just a T8 Hood? Like a G3, or an N3? Or a County? Or Ark Royal? Or any R Class? Or Repulse? Or any of the WWI era CC's? Or a Battle Class? Or a Daring? Or a Dido? Or about 40 other ship classes totally unrepresented in game?

And of course.

Where

The

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Is

Dreadnought?

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Agincourt would be fun.

Or a British battlecruiser if they follow the Kronstahdt pattern of making battle cruisers "cruisers."

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1 minute ago, _RC1138 said:

And of course.

Where

The

[edited]

Is

Dreadnought?

And, of course there is this.

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A BC from another nation would be good; But you know that no other nation's battlecruiser will compare to what they have done to Kronstadt or Stalingrad.

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8 minutes ago, Nutaz said:

A BC

CC... ffs, Battlecruisers are abbreviated CC, as in CC-1 Lexington, CC-2 Saratoga, ect.

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32 minutes ago, Cruxdei said:

if they follow hood's way,it wont be a "fun" ship

I really don't get the Hood hatred, I seem to not have much difficulty wrecking things with her.  +1 for Repulse and ... well ... everything else here.

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40 minutes ago, Cobraclutch said:

Yes.. Ever since Belfast was shelved I hav ebeen looking forward to a new British Premium CA/CL 

 

Give me a cruiser and cossack, that + haida and mass will keep me occupied for a bit. 

Please show your support for HMS Sheffield!

31 minutes ago, Blorgh2017 said:

I wish Belfast would make a return. Alas, I know it's just a pipe dream and my AL captain Belfest is left without her name sake ship forever.

Nevertheless, I agree that a new RN Premium cruiser would be a definite plus.

Seeing as Konig Albert is back in the premium shop, who's to say Belfast won't reappear one day? Keep your fingers crossed. :Smile_Default:

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31 minutes ago, _RC1138 said:

You are at least the 9001'st person to point out Vanguard.

How about something that isn't just a T8 Hood? Like a G3, or an N3? Or a County? Or Ark Royal? Or any R Class? Or Repulse? Or any of the WWI era CC's? Or a Battle Class? Or a Daring? Or a Dido? Or about 40 other ship classes totally unrepresented in game?

And of course.

Where

The

[edited]

Is

Dreadnought?

Vanguard is obvious because it is... obvious. It'd be an interesting play at tier 8 - an Iowa-equivalent with (supercharged [I hope]) tier 6 guns.

I'd like to think G3 is the eventual tier IX of a BC tree. 

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10 minutes ago, _RC1138 said:

CC... ffs, Battlecruisers are abbreviated CC, as in CC-1 Lexington, CC-2 Saratoga, ect.

To be fair, the designation used for the original Lexingtons is relatively unknown and BC could be a reasonable  idea for BattleCruiser. It's like how some people will call cruisers CAs even when they're facing Brits. Not technically correct, but it gets the point across.

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London or Dido, we need a RN cruiser again. Light or heavy, I don't really care. I am okay with Warspite for my BB commander trainer. But we are short a propper RN cruiser trainer.

Heck, just take radar and HE away from Belfast and rename it, I don't care.

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5 minutes ago, Battlecruiser_Renown said:

Vanguard is obvious because it is... obvious. It'd be an interesting play at tier 8 - an Iowa-equivalent with (supercharged [I hope]) tier 6 guns.

I'd like to think G3 is the eventual tier IX of a BC tree. 

Except those superchargeed guns would still be weaker than Bismarck or Monarch's guns - the weakest at tier VIII. I wouldn't quite go so far as to call her an Iowa-equivalent.

 

That being said, while I'm a bit tired of RN BB premiums, I'd love to see a RN cruiser premium - Sheffield and Exeter are at the top of that list.

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Yes please. I could do with another inferior KGV clone. Seriously, no more BBs for now. 

My vote is for either a Dido-class cruiser or Sheffield.

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4 minutes ago, Phoenix_jz said:

Except those superchargeed guns would still be weaker than Bismarck or Monarch's guns - the weakest at tier VIII. I wouldn't quite go so far as to call her an Iowa-equivalent.

 

That being said, while I'm a bit tired of RN BB premiums, I'd love to see a RN cruiser premium - Sheffield and Exeter are at the top of that list.

I think that vould be the whole point with Vanguard - an extremely beefy HP pool speedster with strong AA but utterly unimpressive main guns. I mean, I guess that's Hood, but only because Wargaming gave her that ridiculous consumable. I imagine Vanguard's AA would be passively oriented.

To be honest, Vanguard is not at the top of my list, either. I want Repulse, Dido, and London. But anything would be better than nothing.

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A non-battleship premium for the RN would be nice.

Not much point getting excited when Cossack has taken more than 6 months and is hardly in-sight. WG could announce Dido, Sheffield and Exeter tomorrow and yeah, that'll be nice in late 2019.

 

As for Vanguard...

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I think she could do T8 though, if Huanghe can be bodged into T6 then anything's possible really...

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Just now, Battlecruiser_Renown said:

I think that vould be the whole point with Vanguard - an extremely beefy HP pool speedster with strong AA but utterly unimpressive nain guns. I mean, I guess that's Hood, but only because Wargaming gave her that ridiculous consumable. I imagine Vanguard's AA would be passively oriented.

I mean, it's not at the top of my list, either. I was Repulse, Dido, and London. But anything would be better than nothing.

She does have a lot of health, but her armor isn't that impressive - slightly worse than KGV/Monarch iirc, and her AA is a bit of a 'not all that glitters is gold'. The DP AA would be dismal, and the mid-range AA would be great - but it's confined to 3.5 km, so if you want to reach 5 km you've got to build for it. It's also going to be wiped out in a few HE salvoes, which is a guranteed occurrence for a Battleship.

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1 minute ago, mofton said:

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She was at least built in contrast to most of the tier IX and X ships.

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Dido is far more a T6. It only looks like an Atlanta on the surface. The ROF is much lower having less guns which fire more slowly. Here are the ingame stats on her 134mm guns (as found on KGV). 
6.7s reload (9 RPM)
1900 HE Alpha
8.1 DPS @4.5km for AA

We can guess on the AP being around 2500 Alpha. The 2x3 torps would probably be the same as Fiji's with 72 second reload, 15,866 alpha, and 62 kts.  The rest of the AA DPS works out to 2x4 12.7mm and 2x4 40mm for 4.2 DPS at 1.2km and 25.8 DPS at 2.49km, respectively. 

In addition, Atlanta even outweighs Dido by some 1000 tons. We can expect a HP pool of around 22,000 (between Danae and Emerald). 

All this adds up to a ship that isn't T7 material, and T6 at best. Doesn't mean I don't really want her.

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