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AA mounts/secondaries should be repairable

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One of the reasons many people hate HE spam/RN battleships, etc. is due to how it ruins their AA and there is no way to counter it at all. If you get hit by just 1 conquerer salvo at the start of a match your entire AA bubble can be crippled for the rest of the game, making you way too vulnerable to carriers. To me it makes no sense that massive battleship turrets can easily be repaired in less that a minute, but small AA mounts are lost permanently. It doesn’t make sense, gameplay wise or historically speaking. Therefore I suggest that AA and secondary mounts should be repairable. The timer should be long, such as several minutes, to prevent immunity to HE spam, but it should also be there so that one unlucky salvo doesn’t cripple your full AA spec ship for the rest of the game. 

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You've never permanently lost a main battery turret? 

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1 minute ago, Ducky_shot said:

You've never permanently lost a main battery turret? 

Of course I have, but it’s quite rare, especially compared to rates of AA mount loss

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We could replace the AA losses for sailors with small arms.

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8 minutes ago, Vangm94 said:

We could replace the AA losses for sailors with small arms.

That seems insensitive to people with short arms...

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19 minutes ago, bubbleboy264 said:

One of the reasons many people hate HE spam/RN battleships, etc. is due to how it ruins their AA and there is no way to counter it at all. If you get hit by just 1 conquerer salvo at the start of a match your entire AA bubble can be crippled for the rest of the game, making you way too vulnerable to carriers. To me it makes no sense that massive battleship turrets can easily be repaired in less that a minute, but small AA mounts are lost permanently. It doesn’t make sense, gameplay wise or historically speaking. Therefore I suggest that AA and secondary mounts should be repairable. The timer should be long, such as several minutes, to prevent immunity to HE spam, but it should also be there so that one unlucky salvo doesn’t cripple your full AA spec ship for the rest of the game. 

AA mounts are repairable. In port

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1 minute ago, Gregor_Marethel said:

That seems insensitive to people with short arms...

I could give them long arms but that seems insensitive to people with short arms

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1 minute ago, Vangm94 said:

I could give them long arms but that seems insensitive to people with short arms

I would suggest using unarmed people, but then the amputees might complain.

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20 minutes ago, Ducky_shot said:

You've never permanently lost a main battery turret? 

I'll just leave the thought "tier 6 Ognevoi" right here.

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Just now, Gregor_Marethel said:

I would suggest using unarmed people, but then the amputees might complain.

Can I give them fire arms? 

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Just now, Lillehuntrix said:

I'll just leave the thought "tier 6 Ognevoi" right here.

HSF Harekaze with USN 5inch guns. They stick out and get knocked out just as fast as they shoot.

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Ok, repair the AA and give carriers infinite reserve of airplanes.

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In real life, if you had an emplacement of Oerlikon or larger cannon and the crew manning them destroyed then most ships probably couldn't easily replace them at sea. 

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further nerf carriers to oblivion, give them one squadron of fighter, bomber, and torp and that's it.  carriers need to start getting into the cap early with DD, and spot other ships for BB.

 

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Just now, Snargfargle said:

In real life, if you had an emplacement of Oerlikon or larger cannon and the crew manning them destroyed then most ships probably couldn't easily replace them at sea. 

In real life you wouldn't have battleships slinging HE at each other, because let's be real here, cruiser HE is kinda OK.   However, having 1 conqueror salvo destroy half your mid range AA 3 minutes in to the first CV game you've seen in days is weapons-grade [edited].

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A buff to AA survivability would probably make sense - I do think HE shells can deal too much damage to small and medium-caliber AA. The upgrade module helps, but BB and even CA HE can often overwhelm the module HP completely. 

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1 hour ago, bubbleboy264 said:

To me it makes no sense that massive battleship turrets can easily be repaired in less that a minute, but small AA mounts are lost permanently.

That is because the AA mounts are totally blown overboard, while the massive turret is only jammed with AA mount debris from the most recent HE hit.

1 hour ago, Vangm94 said:

Can I give them fire arms? 

Wouldn't that burn their shoulders?

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2 minutes ago, Umikami said:

That is because the AA mounts are totally blown overboard, while the massive turret is only jammed with AA mount debris from the most recent HE hit.

Wouldn't that burn their shoulders?

Then should we give them light or heavy arms? Pole arms too?

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2 minutes ago, Vangm94 said:

Then should we give them light or heavy arms? Pole arms too?

That would really piss off the Poles, who, living between the Germans and the Russians, have had enough trouble. Just give them Computerized Robot arms, Motorola could use the business.

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1 hour ago, Vangm94 said:

Can I give them fire arms? 

Sure. Just don't try to put magazines in those arms - Fahrenheit 451 comes into play if you do and you end up firing blanks.

                       "We owe a lot to Thomas Edison - if it wasn't for him, we'd be (reading these forums) by candlelight."

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1 minute ago, Umikami said:

That would really piss off the Poles, who, living between the Germans and the Russians, have had enough trouble. Just give them Computerized Robot arms, Motorola could use the business.

You beat me. :Smile_honoring: You have my arm.

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When an AA Battery gets hit by a High Explosive  Shell the Gun is destroyed those manning the guns are destroyed. Replacement Guns are a Possibility at sea during a Battle. The sailors must wait till the ship arrives at port.

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3 minutes ago, Vangm94 said:

You beat me. :Smile_honoring: You have my arm.

Short, long, fire, Pole, or robot?

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Oh well it appears this subject has been well covered.

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Is it true that some genius Admiral wanted to call AA 'tubs'  - "Arms Pits"?

 

                                     "There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line." - Oscar Levant

 

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