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Why do you BBs always want to ram??

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Why do you BBs always want to ram??  I have had many games where I drive a DD or cruiser with torps but the BB go in for a ram and I can't torp.  Most of the time the ram fails, and then the BB turns often turns attention to me and then I die too.

If you BBs feel that you can't turn and show broadside, fine, go backwards and keep firing and let your teammate help kill the red guy. 

At this point I think that many BB players have the tactical acumen of a Sno-cone.  I am just not impressed.

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Can't speak for others, but for me it's a matter of the profitable exchange. If I'm in a bad situation and I'm sure to die, I'll try to take as many hit points down with me as I can. If this means shoving my 10k health battleship into the face of a 40k one, that's a profitable exchange for me.

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Let's see, come to a stop, reverse engines, and travel at a single digit speeds while the DD/cruiser is free to maneuver as they wish or keep going and force the DD/cruiser to react to my movements? Which do you think has the best chance of getting out alive?

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15 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

Let's see, come to a stop, reverse engines, and travel at a single digit speeds while the DD/cruiser is free to maneuver as they wish or keep going and force the DD/cruiser to react to my movements? Which do you think has the best chance of getting out alive?

In my experience it is usually neither, and the red BB walks away with 2 kills.  A DD or CL with the ability to torp means possibly killing or heavily damaging the red BB, and both green ships live.  Or, the DD/CL torps, gets killed, and the green BB finishes of the now badly wounded red BB.  It's called teamwork.

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13 minutes ago, Lert said:

Can't speak for others, but for me it's a matter of the profitable exchange. If I'm in a bad situation and I'm sure to die, I'll try to take as many hit points down with me as I can. If this means shoving my 10k health battleship into the face of a 40k one, that's a profitable exchange for me.

This. It's all about the HP exchange. If you are low HP or in a bad position and being focused down quickly, it's smart to go for the ram to take down a full HP enemy ship with you.

Conversely if you are brawling with another ship and have the upper hand, be prepared to kite away if they move to close in on you. I've seen many full HP BBs die b/c they continued to close the distance on a wounded opponent and can't avoid the desperation ram.

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20 minutes ago, Lert said:

Can't speak for others, but for me it's a matter of the profitable exchange. If I'm in a bad situation and I'm sure to die, I'll try to take as many hit points down with me as I can. If this means shoving my 10k health battleship into the face of a 40k one, that's a profitable exchange for me.

You missed the point...you might NOT be 'sure to die' if you let your teammate do his part.

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2 minutes ago, MrYee said:

You missed the point...you might NOT be 'sure to die' if you let your teammate do his part.

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23 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

Let's see, come to a stop, reverse engines, and travel at a single digit speeds while the DD/cruiser is free to maneuver as they wish or keep going and force the DD/cruiser to react to my movements? Which do you think has the best chance of getting out alive?

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5 minutes ago, MrYee said:

In my experience it is usually neither, and the red BB walks away with 2 kills.  A DD or CL with the ability to torp means possibly killing or heavily damaging the red BB, and both green ships live.  Or, the DD/CL torps, gets killed, and the green BB finishes of the now badly wounded red BB.  It's called teamwork.

This all depends on how close the DD/cruiser is. If fairly far away turning away makes sense but if they are really close getting closer is the better move.

 

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40 minutes ago, MrYee said:

Why do you BBs always want to ram??  I have had many games where I drive a DD or cruiser with torps but the BB go in for a ram and I can't torp.  Most of the time the ram fails, and then the BB turns often turns attention to me and then I die too.

If you BBs feel that you can't turn and show broadside, fine, go backwards and keep firing and let your teammate help kill the red guy. 

At this point I think that many BB players have the tactical acumen of a Sno-cone.  I am just not impressed.

"Glory arouses a powerful desire. But to those who cannot feel it, it cannot be explained."

 

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ramming a DD with a BB ? ooo I will do that in a heart beat. Especially if he is torp DD, the closer I can get to him the better, he can;t use his torps and he is sailing full speed at me yup I am ramming no questions ask, IF I have enough HP I will probably get a die-harder achievement.

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The humiliating part is when you missed the RAM. That is a feeling of oh crap its over you will over feel in a match that is sooo intense. Ramming is a part of the game and when used correctly its a match changer. 

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11 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

This all depends on how close the DD/cruiser is. If fairly far away turning away makes sense but if they are really close getting closer is the better move.

This^^^

Against anything with torpedoes ‘ramming’ pretty much has the same two points;

1: Get so close they can’t torp you; either ultimately for a ram, or a pass-by secondaries strafing that extends the fight and gives the possibility of at least one more main battery salvo.

2: (What @Lert said;)

38 minutes ago, Lert said:

Can't speak for others, but for me it's a matter of the profitable exchange. If I'm in a bad situation and I'm sure to die, I'll try to take as many hit points down with me as I can. If this means shoving my 10k health battleship into the face of a 40k one, that's a profitable exchange for me.

2-a: Depending on damage levels; odds are a battleship will always crush and win a ram against a lesser vessel.

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One of the things that got me hooked on this game was ramming things. I've always had issues, and I've passed out more rammings than needed...The worst was when my kids made me buy the "murderous chicken" camo  for the Richie...He makes me ram things...really...I can't help it. :Smile_izmena:

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I ram because the repair cost is the same no matter how much damage I take. If we are at 900 pts and about to win, Im gonna ram someone. It is the easiest way to rack up big damage. Ive traded 50k for 19k before in the final minutes of the game, because its basically free damage. Or if Im in the middle of the red team getting focus fired, I wanna make a beeline for the nearest enemy so I can get free damage AND make sure me dying is at least a trade.

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Ok, you are all missing the point...maybe I did not define it well enough.  I am talking about 1 red BB with maybe 50% HP, a green DD/CL that is mostly dead, but has torps, and a green BB with maybe 20% HP.  The green BB rushes in and gets in the way of the torps,  DD/CL does not fire torps to  avoid TK, and then both die to red BB.

I am NOT talking about a green BB ramming a red CL/DD.

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1 minute ago, MrYee said:

Ok, you are all missing the point...maybe I did not define it well enough.  I am talking about 1 red BB with maybe 50% HP, a green DD/CL that is mostly dead, but has torps, and a green BB with maybe 20% HP.  The green BB rushes in and gets in the way of the torps,  DD/CL does not fire torps to  avoid TK, and then both die to red BB.

I am NOT talking about a green BB ramming a red CL/DD.

They arent missing the point. You just never set this point in your original post. :cap_yes:

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3 minutes ago, Angel_With_A_Shotgun said:

They arent missing the point. You just never set this point in your original post. :cap_yes:

Thought it was clear...how many BBs are afraid to turn broadside to a DD/CL??  Possibly understandable if they have torps, but most DD/CL would be able to  avoid anyway.

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1 minute ago, MrYee said:

Thought it was clear...how many BBs are afraid to turn broadside to a DD/CL??  Possibly understandable if they have torps, but most DD/CL would be able to  avoid anyway.

Don't assume people are going to know what you mean if you dont specify things. If you had been more specific about the circumstances you were talking about then you would have gotten the answers you were looking for. Instead you were vague and got answers that reflected as such. 

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1 hour ago, RipNuN2 said:

Ramming is so much fun.

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Now that was very funny . I use to love those commercials they were the best .

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54 minutes ago, MrYee said:

You missed the point...you might NOT be 'sure to die' if you let your teammate do his part.

No, I don't think that you  get it.  Say that we're both in 100k HP tier 10 BBs in a short range brawl.  The enemy BB is near full health while my BB is under 20k HP, perhaps even 10k HP.  If I can ram that healthy enemy BB, we'll both die, but it will be a VERY profitable exchange because I'm nearly dead while the enemy was very healthy.  

While I might wish that ramming was removed from the game, or a slightly more realistic ramming damage model was added, for now, in the situation above, my attempting to ram the vastly more healthy enemy BB is the smart tactical play because I'd be trading my low HP BB for a high HP healthy BB.  It's as simple as that.

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I usually ram if I'm doomed. My HP is very low and I have an opportunity to take the other BB down with me.

There is one other reason to ram. It doesn't happen often but lets say you are in a tier 8 BB and close quarters to an enemy tier 10 BB. Even though you can easily put some distance between you and the tier 10 and get away , taking out their BB would give your team the tactical advantage and could win the battle. 

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Sorry, can’t always tell what some other player is going to do, or if the dd/CL will be able to torp before being blown away or if their torps were knocked out ( or even if his spread will be successful).  If you are in a situation where you think you will not survive, and you can take an enemy ship out with you ( especially if your team is in the lead), you do it.  

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I sometimes ram because there is something that battleships turn like, I can't seem to remember it right now. The other reason I ram on occasion is because I'm not paying attention to where I'm going.

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On 6/15/2018 at 5:52 PM, Sir_Davos_Seaworth said:

Am I the only one who has "Ram a DD camping in smoke" on his Wow bucket list? 

Done it before. Only once. In an Iron Duke, of all things. DD got super salty because he'd fired his torps at one of my teammates and was sitting completely still, so there was nothing he could do. Highly amusing.

10/10 would recommend.

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