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Started reading the new NA EULA. and I cannot accept it. Simple to long winded and not able to understand.  It is crazy complicated and Legal terms used and I am not a Lawyer. 

Above average IQ College education. part of old Job was old Microsoft EULA compliance this for a games seems insane Wargaming NA please simplify. surely this is 4-5 times bigger with sub Chapters for other games. 

Clicking accept means you have read and understood these rules.

Common sense would dictate surely most people clicking Accept to play there "GAME" do not understand the these complicated rules.     

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Just curious, what part don't you agree with? There have been several threads on this subject already. 

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And I take it that you forego Windows, Steam, Google, Amazon, Netflix, and every other web-based service in the universe with a complex, lawyerly EULA?

Good luck running Linux and Open Office forever.

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I guess the ownership of the account itself... Since it states that your account is a property of WG and you cannot sell it.

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3 minutes ago, gillhunter said:

Just curious, what part don't you agree with? There have been several threads on this subject already. 

I guess the ownership of the account itself... Since it states that your account is a property of WG and you cannot sell it.

 

Crap a duplicate.... Admins can you please delete the first 1?

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24 minutes ago, Mr_Diesel said:

It is crazy complicated and Legal terms used and I am not a Lawyer. 

The EULA and the ToS are supposed to be legal documents. So it‘s natural that these documents are formulated in a way that makes them solid even in front of a court.

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52 minutes ago, KAGA_kaini said:

I guess the ownership of the account itself... Since it states that your account is a property of WG and you cannot sell it.

So, nothing's changed then. Because it's always been that way.

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If you think wargaming is just going to take away your account or remove your premiums just because it says they can in the EULA, then you have some trust issues. To do that is pointless for them, and only hurts their marketing...

 

 

Short story:

 

There actually was a time when wargaming DIDNT enact their EULA rights. I played wot blitz for several years, and there was a super rare reskin of the tier 8 heavy tank is6 (called the is6 fearless). Only given out for national championships and the sort. Well one update someone goofed and it was available for sale, and even though it was gone in a day, people had bought it. Wg gave compensation and said it's fair. We mis-gave you the tank, and it is within our rights to give take the tank. About a week of drama and nom stop [edited] on the forums and online, they gave everybody the tank back (they let them keet the gold compensation too iirc). Just goes to show EULA and basic morals as a company are two totally different things. 

 

 

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It is pretty much the same as before. I take it you didn't read it before, because it hasn't really changed much. Just some verbiage updates. You are not losing anything from the pervious EULA.

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59 minutes ago, Lert said:

So, nothing's changed then. Because it's always been that way.

Yep.. Pretty much the same.

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How about if I start a rumor that somewhere in the EULA is a hidden code that will get the first hundred people 50,000 doubloons each...

 

Oh.. Ain't I such a stinker !!

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3 minutes ago, AVR_Project said:

How about if I start a rumor that somewhere in the EULA is a hidden code that will get the first hundred people 50,000 doubloons each...

 

Oh.. Ain't I such a stinker !!

Too bad it isn't true

Yes you are

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1 hour ago, jager_geist said:

It is pretty much the same as before. I take it you didn't read it before, because it hasn't really changed much. Just some verbiage updates. You are not losing anything from the pervious EULA.

Outside of a few recent changes to accommodate GDPR, it is identical.   We have made no other policy changes other than that to my knowledge.

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people are only losing their mind because this is the first time they're reading the EULA. In reality, they only just simplify their wording to make it easier to understand. But it not simple enough for OP

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11 minutes ago, MajorRenegade said:

people are only losing their mind because this is the first time they're reading the EULA. In reality, they only just simplify their wording to make it easier to understand. But it not simple enough for OP

Reading EULA op. PLZ nerf:cap_book::Smile_teethhappy:

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4 hours ago, Mr_Diesel said:

Started reading the new NA EULA. and I cannot accept it. Simple to long winded and not able to understand.  It is crazy complicated and Legal terms used and I am not a Lawyer. 

Above average IQ College education. part of old Job was old Microsoft EULA compliance this for a games seems insane Wargaming NA please simplify. surely this is 4-5 times bigger with sub Chapters for other games. 

Clicking accept means you have read and understood these rules.

Common sense would dictate surely most people clicking Accept to play there "GAME" do not understand the these complicated rules.     

It was longer and more complicated to read than it is now. The EULA change basically shortened it and made it more simple and easier to understand than it was before. 

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1 hour ago, Radar_X said:

Outside of a few recent changes to accommodate GDPR, it is identical.   We have made no other policy changes other than that to my knowledge.

 

From what I interpreted, it's just clarifying what the previous EULA already said. My guessing is so if someone is banned for cheating or being less than desirable in chat, they can't sue, as well as if wg were to go somehow bankrupt tomorrow and shutdown all the servers, people can't try to take their money back after losing access to their accounts.

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On 6/14/2018 at 6:01 AM, Mr_Diesel said:

Started reading the new NA EULA. and I cannot accept it. Simple to long winded and not able to understand.  It is crazy complicated and Legal terms used and I am not a Lawyer. 

Above average IQ College education. part of old Job was old Microsoft EULA compliance this for a games seems insane Wargaming NA please simplify. surely this is 4-5 times bigger with sub Chapters for other games. 

Clicking accept means you have read and understood these rules.

Common sense would dictate surely most people clicking Accept to play there "GAME" do not understand the these complicated rules.     

I read and understood it. If fact when jingles went on his leave leave because of the last incident of copyright strike I knew he was in error because a post in a forum from an employee saying one has permission to use content does not override the EULA which stated one does not without written permission which may be revoked at anytime. His argument then changed to the EU EULA allows it, it doesn’t in fact it’s much clearer about you must get written permission from WoWS and the permission may be revoked at anytime.

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Well then, don't accept it. It's pretty easy to get around having to accept the new EULA. Run the game straight from the warships.exe file rather than the launcher.

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7 minutes ago, Ducky_shot said:

Well then, don't accept it. It's pretty easy to get around having to accept the new EULA. Run the game straight from the warships.exe file rather than the launcher.

You are bound to it in terms of service agreement as well. So the only way out of it is to not play the game. 

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On 6/14/2018 at 2:01 PM, Mr_Diesel said:

Above average IQ College education

 

On 6/14/2018 at 2:01 PM, Mr_Diesel said:

there "GAME"

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39 minutes ago, GreyFox78659 said:

You are bound to it in terms of service agreement as well. So the only way out of it is to not play the game. 

shhhh, don't tell them that. They would rather think that things have changed since June 15th.

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29 minutes ago, Ducky_shot said:

shhhh, don't tell them that. They would rather think that things have changed since June 15th.

Yeah I wish things were different but they do let you play for free if you really want to try.

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On 6/14/2018 at 7:27 AM, SireneRacker said:

The EULA and the ToS are supposed to be legal documents. So it‘s natural that these documents are formulated in a way that makes them solid even in front of a court.

True statement.  However, who's court system.  Not all EULAs are written equally in terms of a player's country of origin.  Everyone's court system is different.  

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