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After playing it for a while it’s the only prem ship I seriously regret buying and I’d be happy to get refund. Half of the games you are in tier X with just a few BBs sitting at the spawn and high tier DDs outspotting you. And you can’t do anything except spotting because of these dumb torps that do nothing. What a [edited] idea to make a ship that can’t attack most of the enemy ships; I feel like a complete [edited] for listening and believing in all this hype about OP Asashio...

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I have only taken mine out once so far, we lost the battle but I took first place. It seemed like no one wanted to cover me, discrimination.

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I don't do premium ships. Not really sure why. It's not really a pay to win thing..

I guess I am a fan of progression and a premium ship is essentially buying a completed and ready ship.

I suppose an IJN DD premium might be useful for retraining captains for ranked, outside of that, I don't see any compelling reason to play one.

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I think Asashio is a fantastic DD.   even in a game with little BBs I still find that I am able to get in close, spot for the team, and cap.   her guns are not bad.  The only time I feel like its painfull is tier X games where there is a lot of radar.  But that applies for a lot of the DDs in upper tiers.       Asashio feels like Kidd.    They are both amazing to play, unique to play, and require a lot of skill.   

to your point OP I didn't buy Asashio as a capt trainer.   I would not suggest her if that was the case.  She is a unique DD for fun.  Thats about it.

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I love mine, completed the 25 +200% exp missions on 80% WR. Can be challenging at times which makes playing it very exciting.

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3 minutes ago, Lensar said:

I don't do premium ships. Not really sure why. It's not really a pay to win thing..

I guess I am a fan of progression and a premium ship is essentially buying a completed and ready ship.

I suppose an IJN DD premium might be useful for retraining captains for ranked, outside of that, I don't see any compelling reason to play one.

I dunno man my Scharn doesn't play like any other ship for me. The way i look at it, spending money here is no different than any other hobby. I've ground out 1.5 million xp on her since i've gotten her. Money well spent.

And then there's GC at tier 5 that is worth every penny too ( even though WG sent me mine for not playing...o.o )

All in all though premium ships feel like a novelty item with bells and whistles.

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21 minutes ago, dimzzy said:

After playing it for a while it’s the only prem ship I seriously regret buying and I’d be happy to get refund. Half of the games you are in tier X with just a few BBs sitting at the spawn and high tier DDs outspotting you. And you can’t do anything except spotting because of these dumb torps that do nothing. What a fkn stupid idea to make a ship that can’t attack most of the enemy ships; I feel like a complete moron for listening and believing in all this hype about OP Asashio...

Tier 10 MM is best for Asashio. It simply doesn’t care what tier your floating HP pool is. 10 just means more HP to drain. No ship out spots you. Only Kagero and Harekaze match you, otherwise you outspot everything. Your torps are fantastic at hitting any BB. Basically if you do well in Yugumo, you will wreck house in Asashio.

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And this is one of the reasons in a long list of why I didn't waste my money on Asashio. The kicker is that this reason isn't even near the top.

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Did you not read reviews or watch gameplay?

What you are describing is exactly the type of gameplay I saw in every review and video I saw for this ship...

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16 minutes ago, deresistance said:

I think Asashio is a fantastic DD.   even in a game with little BBs I still find that I am able to get in close, spot for the team, and cap.   her guns are not bad.  The only time I feel like its painfull is tier X games where there is a lot of radar.  But that applies for a lot of the DDs in upper tiers.       Asashio feels like Kidd.    They are both amazing to play, unique to play, and require a lot of skill.   

to your point OP I didn't buy Asashio as a capt trainer.   I would not suggest her if that was the case.  She is a unique DD for fun.  Thats about it.

Agreed.

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48 minutes ago, dimzzy said:

and high tier DDs outspotting you.

Which high tier DD can outspot Sasha? Only Kagero has the same concealment and she's also T8. You need CE to be competitive just FYI.

48 minutes ago, dimzzy said:

Half of the games you are in tier X

Perfect! You get more XP and more credits for damaging higher tier ships.

48 minutes ago, dimzzy said:

What a fkn stupid idea to make a ship that can’t attack most of the enemy ships;

With a proper commander skills Asashio can hold her own very well in a gunfight. Probably wouldn't take my chances against Fletcher, Gearing, Yue Yang or Z-52, but most other ships are a fair game. Forgot about soviet DDs, but obviously, you shouldn't mess with those.

I guess, it's the case of "gittin' gud"...

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DD torp main here, IF I did not get this ship it was a reason not to do so. You can see my history in the forums regarding the Asashio. Even Torp DD specialist where like no this ship is not for me. However its still a good ship BUT you need a lot of dedication to only play the Asashio play style. That play style is not my play style there for I pass. Which is a shame because the ship had potential. Sadly its was a gimmick ship and a bad one at that :(. Now we have buyers regret after a night out of binge drinking. I can emphasize in your feelings for the guys who bought it.. Head up. Shes a good ship but not a ship for your play style lesson learned.

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1 hour ago, tenfingerstentoes said:

Tier 10 MM is best for Asashio. It simply doesn’t care what tier your floating HP pool is. 10 just means more HP to drain. No ship out spots you. Only Kagero and Harekaze match you, otherwise you outspot everything. Your torps are fantastic at hitting any BB. Basically if you do well in Yugumo, you will wreck house in Asashio.

I do well in Yug because I can cap and kill rival capping DDs. 

If your DD doesn't have the full panoply of DD abilities, it's a problem for your team. Green wins more often if Red DDs are removed early. Asashio can't do that. I detest that ship and hate seeing it on my team.

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2 minutes ago, Taichunger said:

I do well in Yug because I can cap and kill rival capping DDs. 

If your DD doesn't have the full panoply of DD abilities, it's a problem for your team. Green wins more often if Red DDs are removed early. Asashio can't do that. I detest that ship and hate seeing it on my team.

Yet I'm at a 60% WR in it with around 80 games. Clearly it's not a liability for everyone. Deleting BBs quickly means your cruisers can push up more. Cruisers pushing up more means enemy DDs run out of places to be and die. Suddenly it's very easy to win. You'd be amazed what removing an advancing BB for a First Blood does for your team.

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The most problematic thing about Asashio is that she is over specialised, and this can bite even the best of Asashio players.

I took her for a spin earlier tonight. Got a match with 5 BBs so it looked like it would be a good game. Murphy's Law had other things in mind though and all the BBs were on the other bloody flank, and my Asashio's flank had 3 radar cruisers. By the time I made it to the other side all the enemy BBs were already dead since the red team collapsed quickly.

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6 minutes ago, Taichunger said:

If your DD doesn't have the full panoply of DD abilities, it's a problem for your team. Green wins more often if Red DDs are removed early. Asashio can't do that. I detest that ship and hate seeing it on my team.

Asashio can kill enemy DDs. I think half of my kills were of enemy DDs. You just spec your commander for gunnery, because your torps are already OP and off you go. Asashio is fun.

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1 hour ago, dimzzy said:

and high tier DDs outspotting you

Only a very, VERY select few can outspot you. Only other japanese destroyers (excluding Akizuki) can match your stealth. 

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2 minutes ago, tenfingerstentoes said:

Yet I'm at a 60% WR in it with around 80 games. Clearly it's not a liability for everyone. Deleting BBs quickly means your cruisers can push up more. Cruisers pushing up more means enemy DDs run out of places to be and die. Suddenly it's very easy to win. You'd be amazed what removing an advancing BB for a First Blood does for your team.

Yes, a few players play it well. The vast majority are useless. Fortunately it is seldom seen. 

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As there are a lot of opinions here, I will share mine.  Asashio is an excellent destroyer.  

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I'm happy with mine though you can be left wanting if there aren't a lot of BBs in game. Radar and aircraft are a challenge but all DDs need to deal with it... face it there are some games in any ship where things aren't going to go your way. 

 

Take advantage of low concealment but don't turn down opportunities to chastise and harass to keep the other side off balance. A quick shout out and then some quiet time to shift position will keep the heavies off balance. Remember- it's up to YOU to make the most out of the ship- not the other way around. 

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I get more feast than famine in mine.

In fact, I like it better than most other torp bote DDs, because I can be lazy and throw torps from 20km to get hits.

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22 minutes ago, Battlecruiser_Goeben said:

I don't want the stupid things on my teams. 9 times out of 10, it's a sure indicator of a pending loss.

She has the second highest WR of all T8 destroyers. Statistically, one of those on the team means a win more often than not.

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Did you even made some research before purchasing the ship ?  It has been explicitely said (and even in game, the indicator show you) Asashio torps can't hit target that aren't CV or BB. 

 

Also high tier DD outspotting you ? hum no, that's just impossible. Unless you don't run both concealment expert + concealment mod (which is really questionable) Asashio is the best DD in term of concealment with Kagerou and Harekaze.

 

Most complain about how Asashio is broken came from BB main. All DD main explained several time how situational the ship is.

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It is literally the most selfish DD ever released...you can't kill cruisers and DDs. Your guns are meh. Sure sucks to be a BB but anyone who sees asashio on the teams list will be looking to kill you asap. I love seeing Asashio on the red team because I can kill you in every single DD I have and there's nothing you can do about it. Want a shiny little novelty DD expect niche, picky performance....it's almost as if every single review of the ship has said this to some extent... 

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