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...the scores are 700-ish to 500-ish, with just a few minutes to go?

I'd really like to know this.

Frustration-venting over.

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I've seen it. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory usually happens because the leading team got careless/complacent.

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2 minutes ago, TF77 said:

I've seen it. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory usually happens because the leading team got careless/complacent.

That happens often.

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5 minutes ago, Final8ty said:

That happens often.

especially in ranked. If we get the last 2 kills, we can WIN!!!! People don't pay attention to caps and points and positions, etc and can't do math even if they wanted to figure it out.

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17 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

...the scores are 700-ish to 500-ish, with just a few minutes to go?

I'd really like to know this.

Frustration-venting over.

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18 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

...the scores are 700-ish to 500-ish, with just a few minutes to go?

I'd really like to know this.

Frustration-venting over.

That's really not much of a lead. Just a couple kills can pretty much turn that around.

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I was in that match and we also had 3 of the 4 caps. I was in my Gremmy had capped the cap to the right in two brothers did a bunch of damage and sank a DD. The ships on the left side cap got that and pushed all the way around and blew it at the end.

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Most people don't know when to disengage, and just ride out the game to victory. Sometimes it's good to be lazy.

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I've won a match where it was 900 points to 300, my team managed to make 3 or 4 kills in a row, retook a couple caps and sunk the last ship before the timer was up

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Wait for my story.. I am in domination map Estuary, Tiering up my tier 8 AMAGI up to Tier X Yamato, so long story short.  We have the DD adv and all we have to do now is cap and we secure the win... Easy right? No lol. DD Mahan was right at the edge of the cap circle on the east side of the map. Everyone stated " we cap we win on pts" in chat, its a good battle hats off to the red team type deal.  MAHAN in chat  *HOLD MY BEER* MURICA!! the guy never did cap (we would've won in pts). Goes full steam up north to the other cap (it was being defended by us)he then chases the red team to the north pole with Santa. Everyone in chat is R rated salty pirate language right about now, he had time to turn around and cap. Instad we were watching a loss, I got my popcorn ready as time ran out. Heart wrenching loss. However it builds Character 

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Pfft, that's nothing!

How about when you're team is almost done capping for the win and your dd decides it's suddenly a good idea to leave the cap.

The other team wins by capping moments later...

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51 minutes ago, khan1670 said:

Pfft, that's nothing!

How about when you're team is almost done capping for the win and your dd decides it's suddenly a good idea to leave the cap.

The other team wins by capping moments later...

Oh for flip's sake...

 

All is well with me now. Pep talk from the Mrs, a bit of luck with a blind shot, a careless enemy and a team that got it right, and the job was done. Indy Marathon is 7 for 7, and tomorrow's play is relaxing fun.

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1 hour ago, khan1670 said:

Pfft, that's nothing!

How about when you're team is almost done capping for the win and your dd decides it's suddenly a good idea to leave the cap.

The other team wins by capping moments later...

You do that and I will kill you.

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"Crap we are about to win and ive only done 30k damage i better shoot at something, fast!"

 

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2 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

...the scores are 700-ish to 500-ish, with just a few minutes to go?

I'd really like to know this.

Frustration-venting over.

Common.

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2 hours ago, TF77 said:

I've seen it. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory usually happens because the leading team got careless/complacent.

Exactly. I had see that many times.

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It is like seven day weekends without the benefits right now for me. I have seen some god awful game play in all tiers. I am guilty of that some times myself when I will stick my neck out to try and shift the focus fire from a team mate, only to sacrifice my ship for nothing.

 

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"don't die in the next 2 minutes and we win" Nope he is no coward and pulls a Leeroy Jenkins on triple digit health, boom, we lose. Winning games is not cowardly.  

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Eh,  that score might look good but what's the condition of your remaining teammates,  and the enemies team?  Do you have a bunch of mostly dead ships and they have mostly alive teammates?   Is your unicum busy wiping out the enemy in another area and is still working his or her way down to the main body of the enemy?

Its is frustrating though,  thinking you've got the match in the bag just to watch it all fall apart.

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14 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

...the scores are 700-ish to 500-ish, with just a few minutes to go?

I'd really like to know this.

Frustration-venting over.

There is "balance" and there is "rate" (the first derivative of balance).  And perhaps more subtle, map positioning and team health status.  I've been in many games down 200 points, and knew we were going to win based on our team position and the enemy's health.  Position + Health equals a significant rate delta in one's favor.

Also,  understanding cap rate and attrition rate is important.  You can be down on caps, but win on ship attrition.  And you can be down on ship attrition, but win on caps.  

 

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Thats not even close to bad. Bad is a ranked match, you have all three caps and ship count is 7v3... and lose

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See this scenario everyday....  I haven't played yet today but last night, just like above were were 4 major ships ahead, ahead 3-1 in caps and the remaining few conducted some of the most idiotic game play, even as a potato that I am, I've ever seen !  I'm baffled?

We lost to a 3/4 destroyed carrier.......  WHAT?!?!  Like I said, this is an everyday occurrence recently; or, I've just started to really pay attention to winning cause I'd sure like my W/L above 50% and that, I'm afraid just can't happen with games like these are becoming the norm, not the exception.  Even my Clan mates aren't sure what is going on??? 

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12 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said:

Also,  understanding cap rate and attrition rate is important.  You can be down on caps, but win on ship attrition.  And you can be down on ship attrition, but win on caps.  

We appeared to be winning on both. And then we lost on both. :Smile_sad:

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15 hours ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

...the scores are 700-ish to 500-ish, with just a few minutes to go?

I'd really like to know this.

Frustration-venting over.

If winning was everyone's top priority and if everyone had basic deductive reasoning skills, that would happen far less frequently.  Good luck with that. :P

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