War gaming made the right decision not to include submarines

[Mr_Alex]

I am seriously going to say war gaming made a very good decision not to include submarines, I have been playing navyfield 2 lately and can say submarines have ruined the game, I recently obtained the mackensen and to eat or wreck a submarine, the 13.8 sk 45 cannot wreck a submarine so now in Navyfield 2 some Destroyer, Light cruiser, Heavy cruiser and submarine users are calling for battleships to be nerfed in terms of defense and offense because they try to rush the enemy first 

[Freecloud]

I am seriously going to say war gaming made a very good decision not to include submarines, I have been playing navyfield 2 lately and can say submarines have ruined the game, I recently obtained the mackensen and to eat or wreck a submarine, the 13.8 sk 45 cannot wreck a submarine so now in Navyfield 2 some Destroyer, Light cruiser, Heavy cruiser and submarine users are calling for battleships to be nerfed in terms of defense and offense because they try to rush the enemy first 

 

Yeah...I think that's the reason why WG didn't want submarines in WoWS.  It could potentially break the game...

[Mr_Alex]

Navyfield 2 is so broken that the player population is declining to the point where gameplay is either ruled by submarines that can easily chase down a BB, launch single torpedo and wreck the bulge and the next 3 torpedoes literally kills the ship

 

[MirrorTank]

Yeah, it would be fun, but in the end, submarines will create will unbalance the game.

 

Hope they make a dedicated game for subs

[LokiOdinson]

Yeah, it would be fun, but in the end, submarines will create will unbalance the game.

 

Hope they make a dedicated game for subs

there was/is a Silent hunter Online for German subs but the Devs have abandoned it ..it was fun ..but yeah WG needs a game like that it

[Freecloud]

there was/is a Silent hunter Online for German subs but the Devs have abandoned it ..it was fun ..but yeah WG needs a game like that it

 

We shall call it...WORLD OF SUBMARINES!

 

[cool18]

Yes, Wargaming did make the right choice of not to include subs. But what if PT boats were included? 

[MirrorTank]

Yes, Wargaming did make the right choice of not to include subs. But what if PT boats were included? 

 

They won't

 

they will be in World of Subs

[Tenbwen]

i don't think so but instead we have word of torpedoes so many torpedoes.......

[BladedPheonix]

Yes, Wargaming did make the right choice of not to include subs. But what if PT boats were included?

 

Pts are too fast and would be difficult to implement, DDs are the primary scouts and Pts only have Mgs, and torpedoes. so the unit would be very limited on uses.

[Fuchsy]

Navyfield 2 was a rather bad game to begin with IMO.

It was just a Navyfield game with better graphics, but I've heard the P2W is real. 

Original Navyfield will always be the better IMO.

 

[BnaditCorps]

world of submarines should include:

 

Submarines (duh)

PT boats

Coast Guard vessels (National defense cutters)

[American_Admiralty]

Yes, Wargaming did make the right choice of not to include subs. But what if PT boats were included? 

 

You know how WoT Clan Wars can call in arty and air support, this may be a feature in WoWS clan wars... Call in a squadron of PT Boats.

[MirrorTank]

world of submarines should include:

 

Submarines (duh)

PT boats

Coast Guard vessels (National defense cutters)

 

Yup, i'd play that game

[flyingtaco]

The statements they have made as to why thry are not including pts are moot. The line I saw from wargaming is thst they are not sea worthy ... that makes sense ... but all the  screen shots of maps we have seen  except the ice one resemble the Solomons ...which was prime pt territory. Not that there are not plenty of other reasons to exclude them ...but at least use one that makes sense. The narrows are where pts belong.

[Guest]

Navyfield 2 is so broken that the player population is declining to the point where gameplay is either ruled by submarines that can easily chase down a BB, launch single torpedo and wreck the bulge and the next 3 torpedoes literally kills the ship

 

 

I knew it would happen, if Submarines was added to world of warships...i expect a similar fate in the end. 

[Mr_Alex]

 

I knew it would happen, if Submarines was added to world of warships...i expect a similar fate in the end. 

 

that's because SDE started listening to the crowd that can't beat battleships and some of them think they will survive rushing the enemy on their own who started to call to nerf battleships, the last patch SDE did for NF2 made BB's submarine and DD food because they called for the BB's defense and offense to be nerfed by more than 75%

 

[NargilFenris]

world of submarines should include:

 

Submarines (duh)

PT boats

Coast Guard vessels (National defense cutters)

Should just say Destroyer Escorts since that would cover the smaller, slower Navy ships as well as Coast Guard Cutters.

[Mr_Alex]

Also running a bb with armor in  NF2 is not worth it, in terms of bulge, a single torpedo literally kills it off, deck armor is gone within a few shots along with belt, BB's being armored in Nf2 is just a credit waster

[Battleship_Seiglinde]

I think the worst part about NF2 is having one or 2 SS on the enemy team and your team has literally NO way to kill them.  It makes for both a stupid and pointless match at that point where it's a waste of gameplay and time.  Sure they pop up and sure you can take pot shots, but then they go back down and you sail around wasting more time.

 

I think this would be the problem with adding subs, or at least one of them.  Without surviving DDs the gameplay has the potential to turn into a lackluster "where's the submarine" whack a mole hunt and that is NOT fun.  I don't care if submarines are historically accurate, they just don't make good gameplay sense for this game as a whole currently and that is what this game is, a game, meant to be fun!  Could that change?  Maybe.  But this is just my opinion.

[Mr_Alex]

I think the worst part about NF2 is having one or 2 SS on the enemy team and your team has literally NO way to kill them.  It makes for both a stupid and pointless match at that point where it's a waste of gameplay and time.  Sure they pop up and sure you can take pot shots, but then they go back down and you sail around wasting more time.

 

I think this would be the problem with adding subs, or at least one of them.  Without surviving DDs the gameplay has the potential to turn into a lackluster "where's the submarine" whack a mole hunt and that is NOT fun.  I don't care if submarines are historically accurate, they just don't make good gameplay sense for this game as a whole currently and that is what this game is, a game, meant to be fun!  Could that change?  Maybe.  But this is just my opinion.

 

the sad thing is submarines literally killed NavyField 1 and NavyField 2

 

[AzurAdmiral]

Whew thank god I didn't install NF2, cause I was looking around for a replacement to keep me from complaining about WoWs not coming out.  But I agree with Wargaming decision to not include submarines.  Just like to add my two cents, since everyone has already said what I was going to say anyways that it's all over powered beyond compare.

[Dbars]

Ok guys.....first off everything you say about NF2 subs is wrong...There is maybe 1 sub player on the enemy team every 4-5 battles and they are 

low lvl. P2w isnt bad and wot is a lot worse for p2w items. Subs cant stay under water forever they have a 2min timer and they die after that is up... Subs have to chase people around the map all game and have zero vision. If you sit still like a derp is your fault. Subs would be great fun in wows or wt ships but they will take too much work to do right. So it is just easier to just deal with ships since there is no special code to deal with under water.

 

[NicktheProfessor]

I think the worst part about NF2 is having one or 2 SS on the enemy team and your team has literally NO way to kill them.  It makes for both a stupid and pointless match at that point where it's a waste of gameplay and time.  Sure they pop up and sure you can take pot shots, but then they go back down and you sail around wasting more time.

 

I think this would be the problem with adding subs, or at least one of them.  Without surviving DDs the gameplay has the potential to turn into a lackluster "where's the submarine" whack a mole hunt and that is NOT fun.  I don't care if submarines are historically accurate, they just don't make good gameplay sense for this game as a whole currently and that is what this game is, a game, meant to be fun!  Could that change?  Maybe.  But this is just my opinion.

 

Fog I have to agree with you.  As much as I would like to see subs, I think that it would deter gameplay where everyone would want to be a sub verses a surface ship.

[branck]

The only annoying thing about subs in NF2 is the fail sonar and fail depth charges. A sub that crash dive a few hundred meters from an enemy DD or CL should not be able to safely sail away.