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Dev Blog - ST Grozovoi gets radar in 4th slot

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ST. Soviet destroyer Grozovoi.

Surveillance Radar is added to the 4th consumable slot.

Detection of ships: 7.5 km

Active time: 20 s

Cooldown: 180 s (120 s for premium equipment)

Charges: 2 (3 for premium equipment)

Grozovoi is currently the least popular tier X destroyer and she shows limited performance against most of her adversaries, hardly making use of her advantages. Addition of Surveillance Radar will allow the ship to fight for control areas and combat immediate destroyer rivals, while remaining quite universal. Radar's stats are tuned in a way that prevents it from overly affecting the battle while elevating Grozovoi in her overall success rate.

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Wargaming thinks that adding radar will solve every problem

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Inb4 WG adding radar, a consumable I barely ever find useful to a ship that I like gets it major nerfed in some other way to compensate.

Woo?

..of all the ways to "buff" a ship, WG picked the most controversial I think.

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Well if WG's going to insist on putting radar on everything, I guess I'm not playing destroyers anymore.

 

Congrats. Finally converted me to a battleship main. Albeit one that knows how to dodge torpedoes due to extensive IJN destroyer experience.

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5 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said:

You got sniped by mere moments.

 

 

Our posts dropped right about the same time lol. His popped up as som as my post did.

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7.5 radar isn’t as good on groz as YY since the differences on spotting range. 

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I don't mind that much the addition of radar in that case, I just dislike the way it is used as a cure all for any issues. If they really wanted to make the line more popular, they could maybe consider some improvements to the Ognevoi...

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1 minute ago, warheart1992 said:

I don't mind that much the addition of radar in that case, I just dislike the way it is used as a cure all for any issues. If they really wanted to make the line more popular, they could maybe consider some improvements to the Ognevoi...

Or give Udaloi it's 10k torps back. I miss them.

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7 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said:

Well if WG's going to insist on putting radar on everything, I guess I'm not playing destroyers anymore.

I think its time to just stop playing.

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2 minutes ago, Shigure_DD said:

7.5 radar isn’t as good on groz as YY since the differences on spotting range. 

huh? it's the exact same 7.5km and 20s on YY

If WG wants to add a 4th consumable slot on Groz, they should move DFAA to it, rather than add radar.

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not gonna change much... It's been a good long while since I saw even one Groz.

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5 minutes ago, saber1979 said:

I think its time to just stop playing.

Oh don't be like that. Russian BB smoke will be able to block radar for balans reasons.

5 minutes ago, MrDeaf said:

huh? it's the exact same 7.5km and 20s on YY

If WG wants to add a 4th consumable slot on Groz, they should move DFAA to it, rather than add radar.

Yeah but Grozovoi is a good deal less stealthy than Khab-bait so it's a bit riskier to use. Meanwhile, Yueyang can stealth radar. Albeit, it would have to give up smoke.

Edit: Just checked, turns out Grozovoi has a detect of 7.6 while Yueyang has 7.4. Guess I'm too used to the Khab and assumed Grozovoi was only a bit stealthier.

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6 minutes ago, Shigure_DD said:

7.5 radar isn’t as good on groz as YY since the differences on spotting range. 

Grozovoi's detection is 7.62 base, before CE/camo.

Gearing's is 7.56.

 

Grozovoi has almost identical detection to Gearing. 7.5km radar is perfectly suited to a cap-fighting ship whose detection gets down to like 5.9, 6.0km

 

Grozovoi's torpedoes also work on destroyers, unlike YueYang's. And Groz is 3.5 knots faster, to boot.

 

No, Grozovoi will become the #2 (behind Z52 since hydro lasts longer and on Germans is almost the same range) cap-contesting destroyer in tier 10.

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Why would WG buff such a new ship that is meant vs CVs?

Why not wait till they fixed the carriers to see whether AA ships are still required?

 

I don’t understand why they waste time on a ship that should get better in the future, instead of fixing current issues. 

 

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1 minute ago, JediMasterDraco said:

Oh don't be like that. Russian BB smoke will be able to block radar for balans reasons.

Yeah but Grozovoi is a good deal less stealthy than Khab-bait so it's a bit riskier to use. Meanwhile, Yueyang can stealth radar. Albeit, it would have to give up smoke.

Yes, YY has to trade smoke for Radar, but Groz (WIP) wouldn't...

YY is also OP as is, so there.

It seems that WG has learned nothing at all from Belfast or Loyang

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1 minute ago, Cobraclutch said:

does this replace smoke? 

No. It’s in a seperate slot, so she gets smoke+radar.

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Just now, renegadestatuz said:

No. It’s in a seperate slot, so she gets smoke+radar.

And it's not OP at all. Just ask the Belfast.

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People are forgetting that Groz has Gearing-like concealment, taking the 7.62km as post-concealment when it is pre-concealment mods.

 

It can stealth radar just like Yue Yang. But is better than YueYang in other qualities like speed and guns and torpedoes that work on other destroyers

 

This change is going to make Grozevoi stupidly OP as a capfighter.

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24 minutes ago, renegadestatuz said:

Surveillance Radar is added to the 4th consumable slot.

Sadly being built, having any kind of history or being in demand by the playerbase is still stored in the 5th consumable slot...

 

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2 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said:

People are forgetting that Groz has Gearing-like concealment, taking the 7.62km as post-concealment when it is pre-concealment mods.

 

It can stealth radar just like Yue Yang. But is better than YueYang in other qualities like speed and guns and torpedoes that work on other destroyers

 

This change is going to make Grozevoi stupidly OP as a capfighter.

my exact thoughts

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groz dosnt handle the best she’s a long boat. 

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