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  1. 1. Would you like a new Name for John Doe?

    • No! Fine as it is.
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    • Yes! I like it to be Ernest E. Evans.
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    • Yes! I like it to be Bruce McCandless.
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    • Yes! Somone alse.
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Time to find a name for John Doe and I have few suggestions

Ernest E. Evans

Ernest Edwin Evans For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as commanding officer of the U.S.S. Johnston in action against major units of the enemy Japanese fleet during the battle off Samar on 25 October 1944. The first to lay a smokescreen and to open fire as an enemy task force, vastly superior in number, firepower and armor, rapidly approached. Comdr. Evans gallantly diverted the powerful blasts of hostile guns from the lightly armed and armored carriers under his protection, launching the first torpedo attack when the Johnston came under straddling Japanese shellfire. Undaunted by damage sustained under the terrific volume of fire, he unhesitatingly joined others of his group to provide fire support during subsequent torpedo attacks against the Japanese and, outshooting and outmaneuvering the enemy as he consistently interposed his vessel between the hostile fleet units and our carriers despite the crippling loss of engine power and communications with steering aft, shifted command to the fantail, shouted steering orders through an open hatch to men turning the rudder by hand and battled furiously until the Johnston, burning and shuddering from a mortal blow, lay dead in the water after 3 hours of fierce combat. Seriously wounded early in the engagement, Comdr. Evans, by his indomitable courage and brilliant professional skill, aided materially in turning back the enemy during a critical phase of the action. His valiant fighting spirit throughout this historic battle will venture as an inspiration to all who served with him.

Bruce McCandless

Bruce McCandless I For conspicuous gallantry and exceptionally distinguished service above and beyond the call of duty as communication officer of the U.S.S. San Francisco in combat with enemy Japanese forces in the battle off Savo Island, 12–13 November 1942. In the midst of a violent night engagement, the fire of a determined and desperate enemy seriously wounded Lt. Comdr. McCandless and rendered him unconscious, killed or wounded the admiral in command, his staff, the captain of the ship, the navigator, and all other personnel on the navigating and signal bridges. Faced with the lack of superior command upon his recovery, and displaying superb initiative, he promptly assumed command of the ship and ordered her course and gunfire against an overwhelmingly powerful force. With his superiors in other vessels unaware of the loss of their admiral, and challenged by his great responsibility, Lt. Comdr. McCandless boldly continued to engage the enemy and to lead our column of following vessels to a great victory. Largely through his brilliant seamanship and great courage, the San Francisco was brought back to port, saved to fight again in the service of her country.

 

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They can not use real names without exhaustive investigation and release signatures from family or estates. Not an easy task for a game company out of Russia. After Segal's contract went south and his problems surfaced they had to do something so Doe was born. I am sure sooner or later they will change it as needed.:cap_cool:

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6 minutes ago, Raven114 said:

They can not use real names without exhaustive investigation and release signatures from family or estates. Not an easy task for a game company out of Russia. After Segal's contract went south and his problems surfaced they had to do something so Doe was born. I am sure sooner or later they will change it as needed.:cap_cool:

Ahh Thank you, I would not know how it works in USA since I'm not even close to America I just happened to learn about those 2 Hero's while I'm traveling in Philippines

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The problem comes with getting permission to use the name from the families. Evans I would rather see saved for a special US DD captain and McCandless would be perfect as a special US cruiser captain. I think a much better choice for a more BB oriented captain if they can get permission would be Willis Augustus "Ching" Lee who with his brilliant use of radar showed the Japanese that the night was not a safe place any longer at the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal commanding the battle from the USS Washington.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Augustus_Lee#Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal

26 minutes ago, Raven114 said:

They can not use real names without exhaustive investigation and release signatures from family or estates. Not an easy task for a game company out of Russia. After Segal's contract went south and his problems surfaced they had to do something so Doe was born. I am sure sooner or later they will change it as needed.:cap_cool:

A much better choice would have been John Smith or some other random name but the Russian devs found Doe to be very humorous.

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9 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

The problem comes with getting permission to use the name from the families. 

I don't believe you need any permission to use the names of deceased historical figures, especially those in government service, (assuming you're using them in the context in which they served) and any picture that's (in uniform, not private) in a museum, for example, is public domain.

The only way a (public) likeness would be private is if the family filed for intellectual property rights back in the day, and kept renewing them. You can't all of a sudden, 40+ years later say, "wargames are gaining in popularity, I'm going to copyright my grandfather."

Basically, if you're a government employee, the government technically owns the rights to your name/image within the context of your service.

If you're a high-ranking politician, any image taken (on public property) when you are in office is automatically public domain.

 

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10 minutes ago, A_Crying_Hipster said:

Broken poll.  No...

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That bacon looks almost perfectly cooked. I like mine to look like that, but be stiff and crisp. (not crunchy)

My wife does it in the oven on parchment paper. Yum!

 

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5 minutes ago, Skpstr said:

That bacon looks almost perfectly cooked. I like mine to look like that, but be stiff and crisp. (not crunchy)

My wife does it in the oven on parchment paper. Yum!

 

Gotta go with thinner cuts then.  I like them softer so I go thicker cuts and cook them slow.  Everyone in the family likes it different so it's a pain but worth the extra effort for the smiles.

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11 minutes ago, Skpstr said:

I don't believe you need any permission to use the names of deceased historical figures, especially those in government service, (assuming you're using them in the context in which they served) and any picture that's (in uniform, not private) in a museum, for example, is public domain.

The only way a (public) likeness would be private is if the family filed for intellectual property rights back in the day, and kept renewing them. You can't all of a sudden, 40+ years later say, "wargames are gaining in popularity, I'm going to copyright my grandfather."

Basically, if you're a government employee, the government technically owns the rights to your name/image within the context of your service.

If you're a high-ranking politician, any image taken (on public property) when you are in office is automatically public domain.

 

That is US but other countries have different rules which is why it is Jack Dunkirk instead of his real name.

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2 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

That is US but other countries have different rules which is why it is Jack Dunkirk instead of his real name.

Who is it supposed to be?

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If they must go generic, then let's go with something like Bill Capra as homage to the naval academy. 

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Personally, id like to see us be able to rename commanders to whatever we would like. Thats just me though.

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1 hour ago, BrushWolf said:

The problem comes with getting permission to use the name from the families. Evans I would rather see saved for a special US DD captain and McCandless would be perfect as a special US cruiser captain. I think a much better choice for a more BB oriented captain if they can get permission would be Willis Augustus "Ching" Lee who with his brilliant use of radar showed the Japanese that the night was not a safe place any longer at the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal commanding the battle from the USS Washington.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Augustus_Lee#Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal

A much better choice would have been John Smith or some other random name but the Russian devs found Doe to be very humorous.

here I was always using my John Doe as a CL Captain and I mentioned Captains I had already read about and where Cruiser and Destroyer Commanders I skipped CV commanders from the list as biased on the John Doe skills.

Willis Augustus "Ching" Lee would fit well also, just had not read about him yet

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I'd still like Samuel Lee Gravely Jr.

Many of Gravely's later career achievements represented "firsts" for African Americans. In 1961, he became the first African-American officer to command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Theodore E. Chandler (DD-717) (Robert Smalls had briefly commanded a Navy ship in the American Civil War, although he was a civilian, not a Navy officer). When he took command of the destroyer escort USS Falgout (DE-324)in January 1962, he was the first African-American officer to command a combat ship. During the Vietnam War he commanded the destroyer USS Taussig (DD-746) as it performed plane guard duty and gunfire support off the coast of Vietnam in 1966, making him the first African American to lead a ship into combat. In 1967 he became the first African American to reach the rank of captain, and in 1971 the first to reach rear admiral.[2]

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7 hours ago, BrushWolf said:

That is US but other countries have different rules which is why it is Jack Dunkirk instead of his real name.

 

7 hours ago, Skpstr said:

Who is it supposed to be?

I remember seeing it somewhere on the forum but for the life of me I don't know where.

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8 hours ago, Skpstr said:

That bacon looks almost perfectly cooked. I like mine to look like that, but be stiff and crisp. (not crunchy)

My wife does it in the oven on parchment paper. Yum!

 

I prefer thick pepper bacon fryed in a skillet.  Oven bacon is OK and yeah its supposed to be healthier for you and all.  Its tons better than microwaved.  But I prefer the old fashioned way of cooking bacon. 

Although having said "old-fashioned" makes me wonder how far back in time cooking bacon in an oven actually goes.  Ovens have been around in some form for thousands of years.    

As to John Doe -- yeah I'd like a historical USN name.  Willis (Ching) Lee is a great choice as are most of the other names that have been suggested above.  Raymond Spruance,   William D. Leahy,  Richmond Kelly Turner,...etc

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15 hours ago, Dr_Dirt said:

I prefer thick pepper bacon fryed in a skillet.  Oven bacon is OK and yeah its supposed to be healthier for you and all.  Its tons better than microwaved.  But I prefer the old fashioned way of cooking bacon.

I definitely like pan frying if I'm doing home fries or eggs. Can't beat them fried in bacon grease! (even if it does turn them grayish lol)

We just find that with an active 4-year old, and a tendency to get sidetracked, the results are more consistent in the oven.

I find microwaved is fine if it's getting crumbled into a salad, or as a garnish for burgers and dogs.

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