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IJN secondaries question

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Which IJN BB's have decent secondaries other than the Yamato and the Amagi? I have the Kii does it have at least semi decent secondaries? TIA

 

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Tbh? None. IJN BBs dont have good secundaries, not worth. Also, IJN BBs are not brawlers, so you dont want to stay that close.

 

But the best in the line are Yamato and Izumo. Nagato and Amagi seems to have heavy secundaries on paper, but their secundaries fire mostly AP, which makes them bad. Kii has bad secundaries too. 

 

If you want a line with good secundaries go for German BBs. 

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Maybe back in the early days (long before I started playing) they were supposedly good, but in today's meta they're just not... Nagato is OK if you're top tier (the AP secondaries just shred lower tier cruisers) and Yamato can score a few fires and surprise a few DDs now and again, but spec'ing into them is a total waste. I only have a secondary captain for Nagato in addition to a "normal" captain because I have a million IJN captains chilling in my reserve :Smile_teethhappy:

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Nagato has enough shell volume to fend off DDs and CLs who try to get close, but the range only maxes out to 7km and they fire AP so they're way more situational than German secondaries.

Does it make for a fun build to mess around? Yes. Is it a recommended competitive build? Totally not.

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28 minutes ago, HeathenForay said:

back in the early days

This, when we had just IJN and USN, IJN had the better secondaries of the two. Once Germany was added, it's really only Yamato, maybe Musashi if she has similar secondaries.

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Secondaries aren't good on the Japanese. Viewed in isolation the secondaries on Izumo and Yamato are okay. Problem being you never want to be that close to somebody in those ships and to use your secondaries you need to expose yourself at close range in unmanouverable barges with citadels the size of the moon. Germans and French have much better secondaries on ships that can actually do well up close.

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IJN BB Secondaries?  Hmm...

 

Back when it was just USN & IJN BBs, IJN BB Secondaries were far better.  Matter of fact, Secondary Builds for IJN BBs from Nagato on were quite common.  One of Nagato's selling points at launch and for about a year was her Secondaries.  Yamato players frequently adopted Secondary Builds, which was a very sensible move at the time because let's be frank:  Even without ASM1, Yamato is scary accurate.  Her secondaries range made Montana's anemic suite look comedically bad.

 

Everything changed however with the arrival of German BBs.  Protected citadels and even better secondaries, they easily pushed IJN BBs away from Secondary Builds.  Not saying an IJN BB Secondary Build cannot work today, but it's much harder compared to how things were before German BBs arrived.  It doesn't help that Bismarck, one of the most played ships in the game, PERIOD, and Tirpitz, one of the most frequently played Premiums out there, straddle the MM bracket that Nagato thru Yamato see action in.  You got GK looming out there also.

 

The arrival of French BBs with great Secondaries also have further cemented IJN & USN BB Secondary Builds as being an even more fruitless venture.  Alsace Secondaries Build vs Izumo Secondaries Build?  Seriously? :Smile_teethhappy:

 

Now, this is all of course from a PVP perspective.  People will know strengths, weaknesses and leverage their strengths to overcome you.  In PVE, it's a totally different story, as that game mode is literally "Brawling Mode" and BB Secondary Builds are extremely useful.

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