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I ranked out this season and it will be my last.  I get the Black and there is no more drive for me.    That said I have had some great seasons and some rough seasons.   Stats below.    I am close to a unicum player but I am not the best.  I am a good player in DDs, CAs, and pretty solid in BBs.   I am not a unicum, super unicum, nor am I playing for OPG/ZR/I/K etc etc etc.   Wanted to give some solid advice to more skilled but average players.

Season - # of Battles

  • 4 – 166
  • 5 – 349
  • 6 – 138
  • 7 – 218
  • 8 – 357
  • 9 – 320

 

My thoughts on ranked

                It’s a chore.   Its stressful.    It is very competitive and can be very fun.   However the worst thing is playing a great game.   Everyone is feeling positive, each side thanks each other for a GG.   Then you go to the next game and its thrown.  You lose a star and they cancel each other out like you fell into a black hole.    The abyss is real.   I actually find this to be the worst part.

                The other key thing is early on in ranked.  I can get to 5 pretty quick.   In season 9 I was able to be 1 star from Ranked 2 in under 130 games.  And it took 320 games to rank out.   Yes it was rough.   I was so back and forth.    It became easier as the super unicums ranked out.   I don’t hide that fact.   Ironically, I finished strong with the Shim this season.  But saved stars most often with Conqueror. 

Some advice for current Rank Season 9

  • ·         If the other team has all the radar and your team has none it is extremely difficult to get a win
  • ·         Unicum players make a huge difference in carrying the team.   You see one of those big names focus them down
  • ·         If you haven’t ever played ranks 5+ all players in those ranks typically know what they are doing.   They know the maps.    Work on teaming up don’t’ sweat the tactics to much
  • ·         You play DDs?   LEARN all distances of radar coverage.  Des Moines 9.9 but you can spot them at 10.3 (or so).   Use that.   They sit and camp often.   Soon as you see a DM they will hit radar like its going out of style.    Run away and wait 1:30 or so.    Then spot him for your team.   He will pay the price.    **Thanks jason199506 adding your comment**
    •       top config(radar mod) des moines is 9.9km 56seconds, he is spotted 10.6km away
    •       top config minotaur is 9.9km 56seconds, he is spotted 8.9km away
    •       top config moskva is 11.7km 35 seconds, he is spotted 13.8km away
  • ·         DD advice #2 – You know the YueYung and their radar?   Don’t smoke up and run.   You keep your smoke down and keep him spotted so your team can help.    And they will.   Everyone wants a piece
  • ·         You a DD player -  Your gonna lose a star most if not all the time.   Get used to it.   You carry the games and you wont deal as much damage as a BB/CA.  So that star is gone in a loss
  • ·         BBs snipe.   They hit hard.    Protect them as they save you often
  • ·         Cruisers camp in the usual spots 90% of the time.   Know them and spot them.  Or drop the occasional fish for maximum fun
  • ·         Radio Location is required for all DDs and is very OP in ranked.    Use it, love it, and for the love of all communicate it with your team.    
  • ·         All Minotaurs and YueYungs have radar in ranks 5 – 1.   Assume it always
  • ·         Never broadside to a minotaur.  Or better yet never show a flat side to a minotaur.    Those DDs who have a flat butt.    Even tier X DDs can bounce his shells long as you don’t show flat sides
  • ·         Spotting wins games
  •        If you spot a Minotaur and your a DD he will instantly pop radar.  Its a good 3-4km to outrun his radar and he will chase you.   Don't show sides and call for support.   BBs love to farm that damage from Minos.  
  •        BBs stay at a distance that is safe enough to go dark and heal.   If you get focused you can't turn around and run easily.   Team needs your tanky ability don't die early.   Its ok to hold fire and heal

 

Some advice for Rank Seasons in general

  • ·         Play the ship you are most comfortable with.   Its rare there is an OP ship.   **cough Belfast season **cough   
  • ·         Losing team will have major salt.   Get used to it do not be a part of it.   Offer good advice to player do not call them dumb
  • ·         Damage dealt keep you from losing a star.   But capping objectives wins games. 
  • ·         Going dark and not shooting is A GREAT OPTION try it.   Your death loses the team points
  • ·         Soon as you spot a DD call it out to the team.   DDs win games.  DDs carry games.   A team that loses their DDs early almost always lose
  • ·         Call out low HP targets.   We love kills
  • ·         Setting 1 fire to a BB is good.  He will let it burn and get you damage.   Move to other targets.   He will waste a heal on your 1 fire.   Let him.   Later in the game you want to be sure he has none left.
  • ·         Call out damage control usage.  If you know that target is vulnerable everyone will open up on him.   BBs take damage that you don’t want
  • ·         Smoke is EVIL unless you have someone spotting, or you know your target doesn’t have radar/hydro.       Don’t ever sit in smoke if there is even a slight chance torps are coming.   You have all done it. 
  • ·         Flanking wins games often.   Even if you do not deal much damage.   Causing a cross fire or pulling ships away from the main line is HUGE.   
  • ·         Detonations early in the match suck.    WG remove dets from ranked.    I don’t think I have seen a game with a early det and won it. 

 

Season 9 had some serious salt.    I found it odd that it came from some of the more unicum/super unicum players.   I will give a shout out to Kraken and Impact.   You guys were always team players and even in a loss were respectful.    Wish we could see more of this.    Sadly the blame game is real.

Remember it’s a random team, random game, random skill, and random number generators.   Get used to it, it can be good and bad.  This will be my last season ever o7 to all of you.   See you out there.

**Adding some updates as you either post them or corrections

 

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+1 for a positive and informative post.

Thank you.

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Jeeesh. I got to Rank 5 in about 60 battles and you're telling me it will be close to 250 more to rank out?

 

 

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Mods, pin this post up high now. Too useful to let it sink into the background.

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Nice post, can agree with everything said.

Took me 15 games to get from 13 to 10. I'm now at Rank 7 and that's taken 63 games... Its made tougher given my timezone to get enough players online.

 

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1 hour ago, deresistance said:

If you haven’t ever played ranks 5+ all players in those ranks typically know what they are doing.   They know the maps.    Work on teaming up don’t’ sweat the tactics to much

I disagree heavily, just ranked out in 252 matches for season 9. There are ALWAYS 1-2 people on each team (even a good one) that will try and lose the match for you by charging for no reason or trying to cap at the start of a match with 3 Des Moines lurking nearby. Accept that and it makes the rest of your strategy a little more clear.

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3 minutes ago, BoS_Mud said:

I disagree heavily, just ranked out in 252 matches for season 9. There are ALWAYS 1-2 people on each team (even a good one) that will try and lose the match for you by charging for no reason or trying to cap at the start of a match with 3 Des Moines lurking nearby. Accept that and it makes the rest of your strategy a little more clear.

Later in the season I agree I did see some of this.   But it wasn't all that common.  I dont consider people trying to play a flank a yolo.    You will see the occasional YOLO player.  They get knocked back to 6 pretty quick.    But even with 1-2 out of 7 thats still heavily a majority of people who know their role. 

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I might have had worse luck than you,....ranked out with a 49% win rate thanks to those beautiful YOLO players. Thank God for them.

 

Congrats on the Black!

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Just now, deresistance said:

  But even with 1-2 out of 7 thats still heavily a majority of people who know their role. 

but then that 1 or 2 gets super magnified....

like that shima that always claims he carry game, whines about BB AP OP but never bother avoiding them

or that yamato with 300+games in it already and still havent ranked out but refuse to give up, and insult his entire team whenever he yolo and die.....

 

i had that specific shima player on 3 our of my first 5 r2-4star games, needless to say i felt like i was drowning in the dead sea - the salt is real

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this is an excellent post 

 

 OPG/ZA/I/K etc etc etc.  

ummm wrong server?

lol

 

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·         If you haven’t ever played ranks 5+ all players in those ranks typically know what they are doing.   They know the maps.    Work on teaming up don’t’ sweat the tactics to much

have to disagree with this one

 

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  You play DDs?   LEARN all distances of radar coverage.  Des Moines 9.9 but you can spot them at 10.3 (or so).   Use that.   They sit and camp often.   Soon as you see a DM they will hit radar like its going out of style.    Run away and wait 1:30 or so.    Then spot him for your team.   He will pay the price

       If you spot a Minotaur and your a DD he will instantly pop radar.  Its a good 3-4km to outrun his radar and he will chase you.   Don't show sides and call for support.   BBs love to farm that damage from Minos.  

top config(radar mod) des moines is 9.9km 56seconds, he is spotted 10.6km away

top config minotaur is 9.9km 56seconds, he is spotted 8.9km away

top config moskva is 11.7km 35 seconds, he is spotted 13.8km away

 

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·         DD advice #2 – You know the YueYung and their radar?   Don’t smoke up and run.   You keep your smoke down and keep him spotted so your team can help.    And they will.   Everyone wants a piece

OMG......ALL DD players need to read this.....

never smoke up against a YY or a Z52, it just blocks all possibility of friendly fire support

 

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·         All Minotaurs and YueYungs have radar in ranks 5 – 1.   Assume it always

and dont forget to report all smoke ones for unsporting behaviour

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·         Never angle to a minotaur.  Even tier X DDs can bounce his shells long as you don’t show side

ummmm typo?

 

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If only I had the mindset that slowed me to remember many of the important things you mentioned OP, I’d probably do better...

Too (redacted) lazy...

+1 for a good post.

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22 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

but then that 1 or 2 gets super magnified....

like that shima that always claims he carry game, whines about BB AP OP but never bother avoiding them

or that yamato with 300+games in it already and still havent ranked out but refuse to give up, and insult his entire team whenever he yolo and die.....

 

i had that specific shima player on 3 our of my first 5 r2-4star games, needless to say i felt like i was drowning in the dead sea - the salt is real

I ranked out in a shim.   Yeah I got some salt from people on it.  But I played spotter and I did land a good amount of torps.   but even spotting the DDs, DMs, my team was very responsive.   I agree I did see a lot of Shims not know their role.     I will admit that I did NOT contest caps often unless it was safe.  Which was well past the initial 5 minutes of a match.  

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The real struggle of ranked starts +5 rank.I was at around 70-80 game at rank 5 and ended up ranking out with +140 games.

You are right about how regular it was thus  season to get a great game and a really [edited] game the next.

A few times I got triggered really really hard mostly by kab players.

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2 hours ago, deresistance said:

Some advice for Rank Seasons in general

  • ·         Play the ship you are most comfortable with.   Its rare there is an OP ship.   **cough Belfast season **cough   
  • ·         Losing team will have major salt.   Get used to it do not be a part of it.   Offer good advice to player do not call them dumb
  • ·         Damage dealt keep you from losing a star.   But capping objectives wins games. 
  • ·         Going dark and not shooting is A GREAT OPTION try it.   Your death loses the team points
  • ·         Soon as you spot a DD call it out to the team.   DDs win games.  DDs carry games.   A team that loses their DDs early almost always lose
  • ·         Call out low HP targets.   We love kills
  • ·         Setting 1 fire to a BB is good.  He will let it burn and get you damage.   Move to other targets.   He will waste a heal on your 1 fire.   Let him.   Later in the game you want to be sure he has none left.
  • ·         Call out damage control usage.  If you know that target is vulnerable everyone will open up on him.   BBs take damage that you don’t want
  • ·         Smoke is EVIL unless you have someone spotting, or you know your target doesn’t have radar/hydro.       Don’t ever sit in smoke if there is even a slight chance torps are coming.   You have all done it. 
  • ·         Flanking wins games often.   Even if you do not deal much damage.   Causing a cross fire or pulling ships away from the main line is HUGE.   
  • ·         Detonations early in the match suck.    WG remove dets from ranked.    I don’t think I have seen a game with a early det and won it. 

 

 

Season 9 had some serious salt.    I found it odd that it came from some of the more unicum/super unicum players.   I will give a shout out to Kraken and Impact.   You guys were always team players and even in a loss were respectful.    Wish we could see more of this.    Sadly the blame game is real.

Remember it’s a random team, random game, random skill, and random number generators.   Get used to it, it can be good and bad.  This will be my last season ever o7 to all of you.   See you out there.

 

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I deleted some of it for space

Damn, I wish I were smarter to have condensed all my complaints about the CCs who are complaining about Ranked XP grind, and Ranked Stars, or Hindenburgs and just show them this, Excellent work and cite this in the future if I continue the Catharsis series. Thank you for your contribution, sorry you've had to endure a lot, but thank you for spreading the word.

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3 minutes ago, deresistance said:

I ranked out in a shim.   Yeah I got some salt from people on it.  But I played spotter and I did land a good amount of torps.   but even spotting the DDs, DMs, my team was very responsive.   I agree I did see a lot of Shims not know their role.     I will admit that I did NOT contest caps often unless it was safe.  Which was well past the initial 5 minutes of a match.  

no im not talking about shima in general, i dont see a skill gap between shima and other DDs in genearl

i am talking about one specific shima player (T____ 5 cap letter)

 

i ranked out with montana, and honestly i dont ask much from DDs, my only requirement for my teammate DD is "survive"

radar is often enough to keep enemy DD from capping in the first 5 minutes or so, and once we get an advantage and gain area control, DDs can safely cap with zero risk

 

capping 5 minutes late wont hurt, losing one DD at the beginning of the match does, a lot

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Great Post a lot of useful information. Will share it with my clan members.TY o7

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14 hours ago, deresistance said:

I ranked out this season and it will be my last.  I get the Black and there is no more drive for me.    That said I have had some great seasons and some rough seasons.   Stats below.    I am close to a unicum player but I am not the best.  I am a good player in DDs, CAs, and pretty solid in BBs.   I am not a unicum, super unicum, nor am I playing for OPG/ZR/I/K etc etc etc.   Wanted to give some solid advice to more skilled but average players.

Season - # of Battles

  • 4 – 166
  • 5 – 349
  • 6 – 138
  • 7 – 218
  • 8 – 357
  • 9 – 320

 

My thoughts on ranked

                It’s a chore.   Its stressful.    It is very competitive and can be very fun.   However the worst thing is playing a great game.   Everyone is feeling positive, each side thanks each other for a GG.   Then you go to the next game and its thrown.  You lose a star and they cancel each other out like you fell into a black hole.    The abyss is real.   I actually find this to be the worst part.

                The other key thing is early on in ranked.  I can get to 5 pretty quick.   In season 9 I was able to be 1 star from Ranked 2 in under 130 games.  And it took 320 games to rank out.   Yes it was rough.   I was so back and forth.    It became easier as the super unicums ranked out.   I don’t hide that fact.   Ironically, I finished strong with the Shim this season.  But saved stars most often with Conqueror. 

Some advice for current Rank Season 9

  • ·         If the other team has all the radar and your team has none it is extremely difficult to get a win
  • ·         Unicum players make a huge difference in carrying the team.   You see one of those big names focus them down
  • ·         If you haven’t ever played ranks 5+ all players in those ranks typically know what they are doing.   They know the maps.    Work on teaming up don’t’ sweat the tactics to much
  • ·         You play DDs?   LEARN all distances of radar coverage.  Des Moines 9.9 but you can spot them at 10.3 (or so).   Use that.   They sit and camp often.   Soon as you see a DM they will hit radar like its going out of style.    Run away and wait 1:30 or so.    Then spot him for your team.   He will pay the price.    **Thanks jason199506 adding your comment**
    •       top config(radar mod) des moines is 9.9km 56seconds, he is spotted 10.6km away
    •       top config minotaur is 9.9km 56seconds, he is spotted 8.9km away
    •       top config moskva is 11.7km 35 seconds, he is spotted 13.8km away
  • ·         DD advice #2 – You know the YueYung and their radar?   Don’t smoke up and run.   You keep your smoke down and keep him spotted so your team can help.    And they will.   Everyone wants a piece
  • ·         You a DD player -  Your gonna lose a star most if not all the time.   Get used to it.   You carry the games and you wont deal as much damage as a BB/CA.  So that star is gone in a loss
  • ·         BBs snipe.   They hit hard.    Protect them as they save you often
  • ·         Cruisers camp in the usual spots 90% of the time.   Know them and spot them.  Or drop the occasional fish for maximum fun
  • ·         Radio Location is required for all DDs and is very OP in ranked.    Use it, love it, and for the love of all communicate it with your team.    
  • ·         All Minotaurs and YueYungs have radar in ranks 5 – 1.   Assume it always
  • ·         Never broadside to a minotaur.  Or better yet never show a flat side to a minotaur.    Those DDs who have a flat butt.    Even tier X DDs can bounce his shells long as you don’t show flat sides
  • ·         Spotting wins games
  •        If you spot a Minotaur and your a DD he will instantly pop radar.  Its a good 3-4km to outrun his radar and he will chase you.   Don't show sides and call for support.   BBs love to farm that damage from Minos.  
  •        BBs stay at a distance that is safe enough to go dark and heal.   If you get focused you can't turn around and run easily.   Team needs your tanky ability don't die early.   Its ok to hold fire and heal

 

Some advice for Rank Seasons in general

  • ·         Play the ship you are most comfortable with.   Its rare there is an OP ship.   **cough Belfast season **cough   
  • ·         Losing team will have major salt.   Get used to it do not be a part of it.   Offer good advice to player do not call them dumb
  • ·         Damage dealt keep you from losing a star.   But capping objectives wins games. 
  • ·         Going dark and not shooting is A GREAT OPTION try it.   Your death loses the team points
  • ·         Soon as you spot a DD call it out to the team.   DDs win games.  DDs carry games.   A team that loses their DDs early almost always lose
  • ·         Call out low HP targets.   We love kills
  • ·         Setting 1 fire to a BB is good.  He will let it burn and get you damage.   Move to other targets.   He will waste a heal on your 1 fire.   Let him.   Later in the game you want to be sure he has none left.
  • ·         Call out damage control usage.  If you know that target is vulnerable everyone will open up on him.   BBs take damage that you don’t want
  • ·         Smoke is EVIL unless you have someone spotting, or you know your target doesn’t have radar/hydro.       Don’t ever sit in smoke if there is even a slight chance torps are coming.   You have all done it. 
  • ·         Flanking wins games often.   Even if you do not deal much damage.   Causing a cross fire or pulling ships away from the main line is HUGE.   
  • ·         Detonations early in the match suck.    WG remove dets from ranked.    I don’t think I have seen a game with a early det and won it. 

 

Season 9 had some serious salt.    I found it odd that it came from some of the more unicum/super unicum players.   I will give a shout out to Kraken and Impact.   You guys were always team players and even in a loss were respectful.    Wish we could see more of this.    Sadly the blame game is real.

Remember it’s a random team, random game, random skill, and random number generators.   Get used to it, it can be good and bad.  This will be my last season ever o7 to all of you.   See you out there.

**Adding some updates as you either post them or corrections

 

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   Love love love this OP. 100% agree. Also, if you approach Ranked with grace and oily, thick skin, you might actually enjoy it, I do.

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The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. Ecclesiastes 12:11

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12 hours ago, Beneej_Spoor said:

I deleted some of it for space

Damn, I wish I were smarter to have condensed all my complaints about the CCs who are complaining about Ranked XP grind, and Ranked Stars, or Hindenburgs and just show them this, Excellent work and cite this in the future if I continue the Catharsis series. Thank you for your contribution, sorry you've had to endure a lot, but thank you for spreading the word.

+1 or more for the OP. What a wonderfully constructive post.  Thank you!

And I couldn’t agree more about the whiners. Nice to read details on how to WIN. 

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My comps to you OP....Nice to see positive advice and insight to Rank.

VR,

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Nice post, I have what it takes to rank out as an average player except .... lack the intestinal fortitude fun sucking grindy thingy ... and oh yea ... the time

good on you for having it and doing a great job and again.. good post:Smile_honoring:

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