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Richilieu Class: Jean Bart

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If Jean Bart were to be added into WoWS, what would you think will make her different from Richielieu? Or rather what would you like to see her have?

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the second turret?

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1 minute ago, nagasakee said:

the second turret?

Wrong ship and class, that is Alsace.

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no it was a joke.  When the USS Massachusetts fired on the Jean Bart, only one turret was functional on the Bart,   so I'd want the other turret in game :)   Sorry...

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15 minutes ago, Vangm94 said:

If Jean Bart were to be added into WoWS, what would you think will make her different to Richielieu?

Jean Bart was still under construction when she fled Toulon to Casablanca to avoid capture by the Germans just before their surrender.

She only had 1 operational turret when she engaged the Allied fleet, including USS Massachusetts. Return fire from Massachusetts knocked out her only operational gun turret.

It looks like significant upgrades to her anti-aircraft batteries, fire control, and even radar were installed in later years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Jean_Bart_(1940)

Perhaps a air defense BB similar to the IJN Kii?

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Just now, Gneisenau013 said:

Jean Bart was still under construction when she fled Toulon to Casablanca to avoid capture by the Germans just before their surrender.

She only had 1 operational turret when she engaged the Allied fleet, including USS Massachusetts. Return fire from Massachusetts knocked out her only operational gun turret.

It looks like significant upgrades to her anti-aircraft batteries, fire control, and even radar were installed in later years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Jean_Bart_(1940)

Perhaps a air defense BB similar to the IJN Kii?

#fetenationale

#anchorsaweigh

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I was just reading that. Basically... Jean Bart will be a Richilieu that has strong AA but with even stronger and a lot more AA.

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Being able to switch operator firing controls between main guns and secondaries is a feature I often hope for.

After all, a Baltimore is just an Atlanta with more armor and 9) 8" guns.

If a DD shows up, I'd rather switch main control over to the 5" secondaries and machine gun away until that DD is a little red cloud of pain.

Same goes with kiting on the Richelieu and Jean Bart with those nice sets of fast-firing guns.

Basically puts an Atlanta inside every T8+ US BB too.

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If Jean Bart were to appear in-game, she'd likely have to be T9 FXP Premium; with her AA pushing T10/T11 levels while her overall stats aren't much better than Richelieu at T8 (just more HP due to greater displacement and tiering, and greater TDS as a result of the larger bulge she got to maintain a certain draft). Give her Republique's long secondary range, and she'd be perfect. Natural weaknesses being only 8x 15" guns at T9, which is a sizable one due to overmatch immunity breakpoints for many T9 and T10 ships. But it could be made up for with slightly better accuracy than Richelieu too.

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44 minutes ago, Vangm94 said:

I was just reading that. Basically... Jean Bart will be a Richilieu that has strong AA but with even stronger and a lot more AA.

Lol the second hull on Richelieu already removed the aircraft in exchanged for some nice 40mm quay Bofors emplacements.

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1 hour ago, Gneisenau013 said:

It looks like significant upgrades to her anti-aircraft batteries, fire control, and even radar were installed in later years.

Perhaps as a premium with her upgrades, or if that makes her too powerful, perhaps ,again, with all her upgrades as a tier 9 Free XP ship, like @YamatoA150 said in the previous post.

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Honestly? I'd like it if she came out after the whole Ise/Tone problem is sorted so she can be a French battlecarrier.

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1 hour ago, AVR_Project said:

 

After all, a Baltimore is just an Atlanta with more armor and 9) 8" guns.

 

In about the same way that Iowa is an Atlanta with more armor and 9x16" guns. 

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4 minutes ago, Tzarevitch said:

In about the same way that Iowa is an Atlanta with more armor and 9x16" guns. 

I want this alternate Atlanta hull that gives me Iowa armor and 14 16" inche girls.

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Just now, Akeno017 said:

I want this alternate Atlanta hull that gives me Iowa armor and 14 16" inche girls.

That would be great wouldn't it? lol

 

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3 hours ago, Vangm94 said:

If Jean Bart were to be added into WoWS, what would you think will make her different from Richielieu? Or rather what would you like to see her have?

 

That's  easy

 

As a premium ship it has to be better than the tech tree ship, so it will have updated American  AA as per her refit and some tiny 'negative' and sold in a 70$ bundle

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3 hours ago, Vangm94 said:

If Jean Bart were to be added into WoWS, what would you think will make her different from Richielieu? Or rather what would you like to see her have?

im thinking maybe more AA then Ricky?

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2 hours ago, YamatoA150 said:

If Jean Bart were to appear in-game, she'd likely have to be T9 FXP Premium; with her AA pushing T10/T11 levels while her overall stats aren't much better than Richelieu at T8 (just more HP due to greater displacement and tiering, and greater TDS as a result of the larger bulge she got to maintain a certain draft). Give her Republique's long secondary range, and she'd be perfect. Natural weaknesses being only 8x 15" guns at T9, which is a sizable one due to overmatch immunity breakpoints for many T9 and T10 ships. But it could be made up for with slightly better accuracy than Richelieu too.

i think that would be a while because WG said they didnt want to do anymore Free XP BBs for a while, but i DEFINITELY see Jean Bart becoming a premium at some point, if its a free xp premium or not is yet to be known

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How about Torpedoes.  All BBs should have some Torpedoes to mess with people.

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3 hours ago, nagasakee said:

the second turret?

I got your joke and laughed accordingly.

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1 hour ago, Akeno017 said:

I want this alternate Atlanta hull that gives me Iowa armor and 14 16" inche girls.

I want the alternate Wyoming hull that gives me 10 5"/38 guns in 4 twin and 2 single mounts, with heavy bias toward the starboard side.

Tier IV Armored Atlanta, anyone?

 

Yes, please

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On 5/10/2018 at 1:19 PM, Gneisenau013 said:

Jean Bart was still under construction when she fled Toulon to Casablanca to avoid capture by the Germans just before their surrender.

She only had 1 operational turret when she engaged the Allied fleet, including USS Massachusetts. Return fire from Massachusetts knocked out her only operational gun turret.

It looks like significant upgrades to her anti-aircraft batteries, fire control, and even radar were installed in later years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Jean_Bart_(1940)

Perhaps a air defense BB similar to the IJN Kii?

#fetenationale

#anchorsaweigh

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Radar!?!? Sorry guys Project cancelled for WOWs, lol we already have more than enough Radar in battles.

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