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According to this site, I am absolutely right: IJN BBs are so bad that it is borderline unplayable.

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https://wows-numbers.com/ships/compare/?id[0]=4277090288&id[1]=4276041424&id[2]=4179572688&id[3]=4179572560&id[4]=4179572528

 

You don't believe me? You think I;m a total noob? OK stats don't lie. Just pick a random tier. IJN BBs are almost always the worst, in terms of win rate, damage and kill ratio. 

And every ship in every tier has some sort of debilitating flaw. 

I knew it. I spaghetti knew it. Yall trying to gaslight me and make me believe I'm some sort of mega noob. Well guess what, numbers don't lie. 

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Ijn are my fav BBs  ,    i guess to each his own

 

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2 minutes ago, AkiyamaSaneyuki_2017 said:

https://wows-numbers.com/ships/compare/?id[0]=4277090288&id[1]=4276041424&id[2]=4179572688&id[3]=4179572560&id[4]=4179572528

 

You don't believe me? You think I;m a total noob? OK stats don't lie. Just pick a random tier. IJN BBs are almost always the worst, in terms of win rate, damage and kill ratio. 

And every ship in every tier has some sort of debilitating flaw. 

I knew it. I spaghetti knew it. Yall trying to gaslight me and make me believe I'm some sort of mega noob. Well guess what, numbers don't lie. 

LOL, really are you that stupid ? wows stats and numbers page you should look at

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Wow here we go again:Smile_facepalm:, all I will say is that it is the Captain behind the screen, not the ship that makes it a winner!

If you are having issues with a line/ship post a replay here, or send it it to @Lord_Zath, and ask for help!

It the little over a year that I have been here I seen a lot of Forum Members that will offer to help posters like this, and all they get is a slap in the face for offering help.

Okay I have said my piece return to your popcorn:Smile_popcorn:

 

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47 minutes ago, UltimateNewbie said:

It is true, the numbers do not lie.

You are a mega noob.

At 2k battles, is he still a noob or just a potato?

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Stats do lie. Bad players drag them down. There is nothing wrong with japanese bb's. I did very well in them.

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8 minutes ago, Horama said:

At 2k battles, is he still a noob or just a potato?

Slowly baking. 

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1 minute ago, Crusin_Custard said:

Slowly baking. 

:cap_haloween:Cool where am I at to being done??:cap_haloween:

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1 hour ago, Crusin_Custard said:

LOL, really are you that stupid ? wows stats and numbers page you should look at

These are the same stats in a different format. 

@MackDye ummmm....no. Bad players drag all ship stats down equally in the long run. So, comparing ship stats will show their relative potential to be used successfully by the player base at large. Doesn’t make them good or bad, but it does accurately show relative success overall. 

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Heh. The notorious "average player base", that does stupid things like camping HE montana and gunboat shimakaze, did badly in one ship. This ship have a higher than average skill floor and I can't adapt to it. I must cry about it, the ship is woefully underpowered and unplayable. Waaaah.

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According to the same site, Hindenburg is also unplayable. Buff immediately. pls. waaaaah.

 

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I’m going to reframe from being nasty and just say you are wrong. Also, we don’t consider you a noob with 2000+ battles.

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1 hour ago, AkiyamaSaneyuki_2017 said:

https://wows-numbers.com/ships/compare/?id[0]=4277090288&id[1]=4276041424&id[2]=4179572688&id[3]=4179572560&id[4]=4179572528

 

You don't believe me? You think I;m a total noob? OK stats don't lie. Just pick a random tier. IJN BBs are almost always the worst, in terms of win rate, damage and kill ratio. 

And every ship in every tier has some sort of debilitating flaw. 

I knew it. I spaghetti knew it. Yall trying to gaslight me and make me believe I'm some sort of mega noob. Well guess what, numbers don't lie. 

The only thing I will say is that numbers don't mean a thing. It is the player, not the ship. I really enjoy the Japanese Battleship line. In the Fuso I have a 58% win rate, average 73,518 damage with a 3.7 k/d. Nagato, 58% win rate 75,685 average damage 2.8 k.d. Amagi 60% win rate 78,522 average damage 2.3 k/d Kongo 64% win rate 42,520 damage 1.9 k/d. I enjoy a much higher win percentage better damage in most cases and a better k/d ratio in most ships. So for ME the Japanese battleships are BETTER than their US counterparts. They are better than their German counterparts, Better than the non-premium British ships. The only line they consistently trail is the French line.

So I think this is more a case of IJN ships being played by more potatoes than an indictment on the ships themselves. If you are a skilled player they are GREAT. If you are a potato they are still great it's just that you suck as a player.

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Well, look at Kongo and Fuso....so many players think they're the ultimate sniper and take these ships to the very edge of their range and stay there. Then when they've been ineffective all game they get targeted because they're the only ones left alive and since they've never learned how to actually play their ships they get deleted and then cry "this ship sucks".

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I have only played tiers 6–8 but don't see anything wrong with them. I personally hated the Fuso as I couldn't hit anything with it, though I was probably playing it wrong. I liked the Nagato, though wasn't a fan of the Amagi. Had at least a 52% win rate in all of them. I am ready to research the Izumo, and I have some hesitation as I hear it is terrible. I may Free XP to the Yamato, just haven't decided yet.

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Im currently grinding my Izumo, Im liking her, the only bad apples in the ijn BB line for me was the Kawachi but its tier 3 and the 1st in line of the Japanese battleships so you'll be done with her in a few battles or you can outright skip it with emough free xp, and then there's the pain wagon of a Fuso everyone knows how her shells flaffs all over the place.

Op, read up on the IJN BB playstyle and strategy the run them again provided you understand what you just read.

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There are ways to get better at IJN ships, you know? Any number of us are willing to help you with that. 

Other than that, I would say that I don't know why you care about those stats.
I mean, the issue you had with IJN BBs was just that you were remarkably bad in them, not that they were bad. 

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I cant get out of the oven but I will say that The Fuso was one of the most fun ships I have played. Not to mention she is Gorgeous. I had the best results at about 14-17k. moving up to support the DD's and Cruisers sure helped a lot. bit fragile though. Ship on and have some pepper.:cap_like:

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but are these numbers not taking in the complete history of the ships, and not necessarily a reflection of their current state?

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Am I missing something, or are the only tiers for which this case can conceivably be made (by win rate) tiers 4 (Myogi), 9 (Izumo), and maybe 10 (Yamato) - the Montana is still lower but that lifetime win rate may not reflect recent changes?  At some tiers, for instance 6 (Fuso) and 8 (Amagi), IJN BBs overperform.

You probably will find some agreement to the idea that Izumo needs a little something, but beyond that, no.

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1 hour ago, Chaos_EN2 said:

Wow here we go again:Smile_facepalm:, all I will say is that it is the Captain behind the screen, not the ship that makes it a winner!

If you are having issues with a line/ship post a replay here, or send it it to @Lord_Zath, and ask for help!

It the little over a year that I have been here I seen a lot of Forum Members that will offer to help posters like this, and all they get is a slap in the face for offering help.

Okay I have said my piece return to your popcorn:Smile_popcorn:

 

 

9 minutes ago, RivertheRoyal said:

There are ways to get better at IJN ships, you know? Any number of us are willing to help you with that. 

Other than that, I would say that I don't know why you care about those stats.
I mean, the issue you had with IJN BBs was just that you were remarkably bad in them, not that they were bad. 

See already you have someone offering help.

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1 minute ago, Chaos_EN2 said:

 

See already you have someone offering help.

If only he actually wanted help... but good to see people are still trying to offer him advice.

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