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There are so many naval battles that could be realistically staged for WoW's, so why not do them? From Jutland to Midway to Coral Sea and beyond, even pre-WW1 battles could be done, so why not? This would give the captains a chance to re-live and re-fight great battles and perhaps re-write naval history over and over. The idea of being in Nagumo's shoes, or on the Bismark as Luncheons, or or with Beatty at Jutland is over whelming. This is something that the captains could really get there teeth into.

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53 minutes ago, FierceNemesis said:

There are so many naval battles that could be realistically staged for WoW's, so why not do them? From Jutland to Midway to Coral Sea and beyond, even pre-WW1 battles could be done, so why not? This would give the captains a chance to re-live and re-fight great battles and perhaps re-write naval history over and over. The idea of being in Nagumo's shoes, or on the Bismark as Luncheons, or or with Beatty at Jutland is over whelming. This is something that the captains could really get there teeth into.

Midway and Jutland are definitely out; there were literally over one hundred ships at each battle; nothing like that could ever be handled by the existing server, which occasionally gets bogged down in intense skirmishes involving just 24 ships. It would just melt trying to have a battle with that many ships (Jutland) and/or planes (Midway).

Bismark scenario is certainly do-able; get a friend, go to the training room, you play Biz while he plays Prince Oinken', and have the bots play the ... what ... 20 plus ships that were chasing them? (Honestly, I don't know the exact count of ships or types) Let me know if you last as long as they did.

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Well you could definitely do the Battlecruiser clash in the opening phases of Jutland, provided those ships were in the game (which they aren't yet).  You could certainly do Denmark Strait.  I've thought about doing that on a clan basis but it's just in the planning stages right now.  

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If Wargaming ever adds the RN Heavy Cruiser Line, you could do the battle of River plate since we already have Graf Spee and Leander class cruisers in  game. And since it’s a small battle you could easily stage that one.

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Bring on the pre-dreadnoughts and let's do the greatest modern warship battle up until Jutland: the Battle of Tsushima Strait. 6 pre-dreadnoughts each, a few armoured cruisers and DDs... time to bash and crash at close range.

Yes I am still flogging my pre-dreadnought thread:

 

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I think Leyte Gulf would be interesting: a bunch of Fletchers and AI-controlled Bogues/Independences with tier 9 planes and some transport ships (not moving) vs. Yamato and a mixture of tier 5, 6, 7, and 8 ships (everything from Kongo to Atago-class ships). All tier 6+ IJN cruisers are granted hydroacoustic search and defensive AA for the specific operation.

It would be an interesting case of player-controlled opposing teams in an operation, with xp gains determined by how many secondary objectives each side completes and who wins. Alternatively, it can be tailored with the AI controlling one side, although certain objectives must then be changed.

Primary Objective (IJN): Sink least half of of the enemy carriers and transport ships and escape with at least 3/4 of the total ships of the operation before time runs out.

Secondary objectives (IJN):

  1. Sink ALL of the enemy carriers
  2. Sink ALL transport ships
  3. Rescue the crew of Chokai (an Ai-controlled Atago-class cruiser who will at one point get close to a CV and be detonated by its secondaries)
  4. Escape with ALL ships.

Primary Objective (USN): Protect at least half of the carriers and ALL of the transport ships until reinforcements arrive/prevent at least half/all of the enemy ships from escaping (depending on if they succeed in guarding at least half of the carriers).

Secondary objectives (USN)

  1. Sink the Yamato
  2. At least 3/4 of the carriers must survive
  3. All forts must survive
  4. Prevent ALL enemy ships from leaving before reinforcements arrive (can be completed even if the IJN ships are still attacking the carriers and transport ships)

So the operation would start as normal, with Yamato and her supporting fleet attacking the escort fleet and transports. The interesting bit starts around the 15 minute mark: this is when Ai-controlled Iowa-class battleships (either Missouri or Iowa can spawn) begin entering the battle. At the 18 minute mark: invisible and invincible 1-1-3 Essex-class carriers begin spawning outside of the map border and launching planes (thus, they cannot be harmed). The escape point for the IJN will not appear until the first half of their primary objective (sink least half of of the enemy carriers and transport ships) is complete.

If both the IJN and USN fail to complete the primary objectives (for instance, all of the transport ships died and 40% of the IJN fleet did not escape), then the battle is a draw. Victory belongs to whichever side completes its primary objective.

The backup primary objective for the USN is due to historical reasons: even if the IJN had annihilated the landing forces, losing their fleet would've been just as heavy of a defeat as Leyte Gulf was IRL.

Hmm, should I post this in game suggestions?

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Some battles they can try are: battle of Manila Bay US against the Spanish fleet 1898; battle of Santiago: US against Spain 1898; battle of Coronel; German against British 1914; battle of the Falkland Islands; German against British: 1914: battle of Dogger Bank; German against British 1915: battle of Heligoland Bight; German against British 1914 and 1939: Battle of North Cape: German against British 1943: there are a lot more.

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On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 5:56 PM, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

If Wargaming ever adds the RN Heavy Cruiser Line, you could do the battle of River plate since we already have Graf Spee and Leander class cruisers in  game. And since it’s a small battle you could easily stage that one.

The only problem would be to find a competitor willing to scuttle the Spee instead of fighting it out.

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On 5/9/2018 at 3:22 PM, FierceNemesis said:

There are so many naval battles that could be realistically staged for WoW's, so why not do them? From Jutland to Midway to Coral Sea and beyond, even pre-WW1 battles could be done, so why not? This would give the captains a chance to re-live and re-fight great battles and perhaps re-write naval history over and over. The idea of being in Nagumo's shoes, or on the Bismark as Luncheons, or or with Beatty at Jutland is over whelming. This is something that the captains could really get there teeth into.

Uh, considering the fact that the two forces never actually saw each other at Coral Sea or Midway, the map would be so big as to be overwhelming, I mean they were well over 200 miles apart at the opening.

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Plus, the fact you're limited to 3 CVs per team in Training Room since they incorporated it into the regular game means you couldn't stage Midway. Coral Sea is doable though.

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