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What's your top gun for anti-aircraft defense cruiser?

I've taken the Atlanta into Tier VIII and IX battles and she can drive away squadrons of enemy attack aircraft.

A close second would be my Mikhail Kutuzov, can defend effectively against aircraft from Tier IX and X carriers.

Who gets the call when swarms of enemy dive and torpedo bombers are on the horizon?

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When I feel naughty, I division up my Atlanta with my clan mate's Kaga.  We call this "easy mode".  As the Atlanta, it's like I hold the enemy's arms behind it's back while my Kaga punches them.  

at Tier 8, I recommend the Kidd.  The reason being is that it re positions it'self very well and will often surprise the enemy CV all through the game.  CAs don't do that as well, and can be more easily avoided.

 

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Kutuzov for me....

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My only Clear Skies Medal was achieved in the Scharnhorst. 

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Personally, I've found Cleveland to be the best, but that's probably because I haven't had the opportunity to get Atlanta/Kutuzov/any tier 9 or 10 cruiser yet.

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Yubari

The anti-aircraft suite of the Yubari is best described as "interesting".  First and foremost, she has access to the Defensive Fire consumable, though only a single charge right out of the box.  She is the only tier 4 cruiser to have access to this quite powerful ability.  Properly used, it can really foul up the small carrier-load outs of lower tiered vessels like the Langley and Hosho.  The raw anti-aircraft firepower of the Yubari isn't anything to write home about, with a total of 55dps at 3.1km and a mere 3dps up to 4.5km.  This 4.5km range is important -- it gives the Yubari distance enough to broadcast the disruption effect of her flak batteries in support of friendly vessels she wishes to escort.  It may not be enough to shoot anything down, but you can prompt dive bomber and torpedo bomber squadrons to flub their shots.

 

It's when the Yubari herself is targeted that her AA really begins to shine, especially against tier 4 aircraft.  The slow speed of these attack squadrons combined with the weight of fire from her 25mm guns will begin to chew through planes steadily (though I daresay not "quickly").  With proper use of Captain Skills and a premium consumable, the Yubari can extend her AA umbrella out to 5.4km and increase her overall DPS to 61.  It's not terribly exciting, but it is a niche role she can fill quite nicely.

 Synopsis by LWM from her Yubari review.

Tier for tier she is one of the best.

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17 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

Yubari

With her matchmaking, I agree; she doesn't get big kill numbers because at her tier CVs don't have that many planes, but if you count percentages of the total number of planes in the air, she would be very competitive.

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Full AAspec Minotaur, planes just start dropping at 8.6km out or you can hold fire until they spot you and delete entire squadrons with ease. 

Otherwise full AAspec Grosi and Gearing are really good as well 

At tier 7 i prefer the Hood, no one nowadays expects a dfaa BB.

At tier 8 the Kidd and Kutuzov are both Cwis material 

Tier 9 goes to my Iowa/Missouri with aaspec you get upwards of 500 dps on the bofors alone.

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54 minutes ago, SavageTactical said:

My first clear skies was with a Texas in a match with 2 Hoshos. Those guys just wouldn’t learn.

Hey I think I played against those guys in my Texas lol

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Just checked my stats.

Best result was 49 planes in one battle... with the NC.

NC OP, please nerf!

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I took an Atlanta into a training room against my friend in his Midway.....way back when she had jets. I killed his whole air wing and sunk his carrier.

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My personal best is 43 planes shot down and it was in the New Orleans. In my Atlanta, my record is only 21 aircraft. For me, the Atlanta is like aircraft repellant. If there are CV's in my game, even though I am not spotted aircraft will never get close enough for me to shoot at them.

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1 hour ago, RedSeaBear said:

My only Clear Skies Medal was achieved in the Scharnhorst. 

My first was with the old STRIKE Bogue; tailgunners and AA for the win!

For surprise AA; Wyoming has done that for me.

Highest Tier? Des Moines, but I never play it any more.

Mid tiers? Not sure; haven’t really played those cruisers much. Indianapolis or Atlanta I suppose.

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First time I ever took Texas out, two carriers tried to sink me.  They got it done, eventually, but they lost 24 aircraft.

Atlanta is a ton of fun vs planes.  

Also, for the future, has anyone seen the AA shenanigans with Worcester on Youtube?

And don't forget Alabama and Missouri.

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I like collecting AA Boats.  Surprisingly the ship in my inventory with the highest avg plane kills is my AA Specc'd Gnessy.

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Cruiser: Minotaur 

Overall: AA spec Gneisenau can surprise CV drivers with it where as every CV driver knows a Minotaur is a no fly zone. 

 

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Sims is fun with AA spec. See planes and guess their target, intercept, hit DFAA when they commit. Cv has no idea you're there till its too late. Attacks are totally hosed and lotsa planes die before the CV can get them out of range.  I've done escort duty for a Musashi while taunting an Enterprise driver to go for it.

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Any cruiser. Because as soon as Sky Cancer appears in the queue, I exit. The best defense is not to play against them at all. Then I can play an excellent surface action game.

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Suprised that the neptune at t9 hasnt been mentioned. with manual AA and BFT plus AA modules the DPS is over 1200 I think (does not require a 19pt captain to get there).  Got my only clear sky (after the change) in this one.

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Want to really surprise a CV driver?  Udaloi with Defensive AA. Already should have BFT and AFT. Keep AA off until planes inside range and then...

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