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What an interesting 24hrs, first on the below thread, I got told, in so many words I should quit playing WoWs and stop posting on the above thread because I disagree with the new AFK system. I always thought that was what Forum was here for debate!:cap_haloween:

Then I has PM complemented for my thread here:Smile_honoring:

Then I received a gift – Big Supply Drop – from one of my friends on here!

Then this morning I got a Super Container with 100 India Delta!

So apparently, I pissed off some of you, but some of you can at least can stand me.:cap_haloween:

What an interesting 24hrs.

 

 

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I wouldn't worry too much about what people say in the forums. There are some really great people who post, often times I disagree with them but they make salient, rational arguments that afford me the opportunity to at least see their point of view and understand it. Then you get the people who when faced with differing opinions just want you to shut up or belittle and those you just have to laugh at until they grow wearisome and just put them on ignore. So many people just troll the forums, often they have more posts here than games played...  Just remember not to let people get under your skin. The world has never been free of irritating people, don't let your heart be troubled by their ilk.

Grats on the streak of luck though, that is just fantastic. I think I need to rub your head for some luck of my own!

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wait..I got a 100 flags in a super container, but from the Yamamoto missions..

hmmmm...

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22 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

I wouldn't worry too much about what people say in the forums.

Grats on the streak of luck though, that is just fantastic. I think I need to rub your head for some luck of my own!

No I do not worry I actually thought it was funny, them telling me I should not post and should leave the game.:cap_haloween:

Now far as rubbing my head for luck, to quote my late Father - "You will get wood splinters doing that!" - LOL:cap_haloween: 

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22 minutes ago, Gerbertz said:

wait..I got a 100 flags in a super container, but from the Yamamoto missions..

hmmmm...

This was my 2nd daily container before reset, and I did a TYL.

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I love a good debate on the forums especially when your all wrong 100 % of the time x infinity +1

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As long as the debate is civil, its all good.  It brings forward real concerns and can help people see the issue from different points of view.  

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2 minutes ago, Murcc said:

As long as the debate is civil, its all good.  It brings forward real concerns and can help people see the issue from different points of view.  

Well I like a bit of snark when debating myself and expect it from other forum posters. I don't think we need to follow "Robert's Rules of Debate" or the like, just think a well argued or rational approach is good for such a informal format like this forum. Understanding someone's point of view, even if you disagree with it, is essential for good communications. Now if their point is stupid, well then they need to be laughed at or made fun of... I only made a "C" in debate in high school though so I could be wrong.

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8 minutes ago, CriMiNaL__ said:

I love a good debate on the forums especially when your all wrong 100 % of the time x infinity +1

 

5 minutes ago, Murcc said:

As long as the debate is civil, its all good.  It brings forward real concerns and can help people see the issue from different points of view.  

I do too, but some of the ones on that thread (not you two) got upset that they could not change my mind. There is many things that WG has added to the game - Emblems to AFK system that I disagree with.

So when I saw that Radar_X posted on that thread I gave him my opinion of it. Then the responses started - some was just debating, BUT two of the posters where very upset that I would not agree with them, and I could not get thru their heads that I never will.

And every time, I left the thread they would add me to it again. And that is in their own way said I should quit the thread/game. Which I fine really funny:cap_haloween: 

 

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1 minute ago, Chaos_EN2 said:

 

I do too, but some of the ones on that thread (not you two) got upset that they could not change my mind. There is many things that WG has added to the game - Emblems to AFK system that I disagree with.

So when I saw that Radar_X posted on that thread I gave him my opinion of it. Then the responses started - some was just debating, BUT two of the posters where very upset that I would not agree with them, and I could not get thru their heads that I never will.

And every time, I left the thread they would add me to it again. And that is in their own way said I should quit the thread/game. Which I fine really funny:cap_haloween: 

 

See though, the moment you were told to leave the game, the Supercontainer popped. WG is watching :cap_cool:. Conspiracy to keep you in the game confirmed.

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8 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

Now if their point is stupid, well then they need to be laughed at or made fun of... I only made a "C" in debate in high school though so I could be wrong.

I got a C as well in Debate has well, I would drive the Teacher (and the Class) for being a very stubborn debater. If I think something is wrong, you will have a very had time changing my mind. Especially if it single outs one group! 

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9 minutes ago, warheart1992 said:

See though, the moment you were told to leave the game, the Supercontainer popped. WG is watching :cap_cool:. Conspiracy to keep you in the game confirmed.

Oh they know I will stay (WG), USN Veteran and Straight "A" History Student they had me hooked from the get go. 

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I love a good debate as well...  except when it's like......

 

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While some may feel the system is heavy handed I don't, something needed to be done. I DO notice that many of the players against it are in 1 of 2 camps.

1: they are dorks and get pink plenty

2: they play mostly PVE and are now having to play with the dorks from number 1.

 

NIMBYism at its finest.

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26 minutes ago, Canadatron said:

While some may feel the system is heavy handed I don't, something needed to be done. I DO notice that many of the players against it are in 1 of 2 camps.

1: they are dorks and get pink plenty

2: they play mostly PVE and are now having to play with the dorks from number 1.

 

NIMBYism at its finest.

Well I am against because it was not very well thought out. There has to be a better way to handle the issue of grief AFK'ers.

And far as AFKer coming to PvE that part never bother me, BoTs love afks I seen them go after them even instead DDs or a damaged ship.

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I'd say there is a third group, those with never ending disconnects and failed load ins, mostly from faulty hardware or using a Mac and not dual booting into windows but running the Mac wrapper.  I am sorry that you are not wealthy enough to buy a modern PC with minimum specs for the 300/400 dollars it runs, but this isn't a socialist utopia and frankly a profit based business.  The game experience of PAYING customers trumps those who are living of the F2P basis of the game.  I am happy you like the game, but if you can't respect the wishes of others by ensuring you can actually load into battle RELIABLY when you push the button, then you need to go.  PvE is just fine for people with connection problems,  because that just leaves more ships to kill for the players who actually load in, and you don't mess up your team with a major handicap. 

As for the Mac wrapper, it's available as a kludge fix, a spare tire to be used to see if you like the game without having to invest heavily into it.  If you really like Warships, buy a Win 10 license and dual boot your Mac - it is easy and you will stop having loading problems/disconnects.  If you have Windows and are having software problems, utilize support and the FAQ's to look for solutions - I had a maddeing problem with disconnects - for a bout two days - that's how long it took to find out that my AV program was a known issue for the game, simple fix to uninstall and use one that runs compatibly.

The crowd that acts indignant about WG not catering to each of their individual needs has one small point, if they are not satisfied, they can walk.  WG is instead listening to the larger majority of players  - the better decision - who are sick of people not being around for the battle they choose to enter in a MULTI-PLAYER TEAM based game.  If you disconnect once a week, the system is not going to send you to co-op, if it's once an hour, you certainly NEED to get a push to fix your damn system.

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The problem with implementing any system to discourage AFK and team killing is that no system is going to be perfect and some people are not going to like it. In random battles, players being AFK is a pretty common thing and something had to be done about it. Putting people in COOP as punishment may offend the COOP players but it is a pretty distasteful punishment for people playing randoms. COOP is pretty much like watching paint dry so if it straightens people up and reduces the AFK issue than I am all for it.

 

That said I would have done it differently. I would have had it work like this. If a player does not load into the game after a certain period or their ship stops moving and acting for a certain period they automatically change to Yellow Status. Yellow ships are Neutral and are farmable by either team and count for scoring points in the game. That way if a player is AFK than they can benefit the team he was on in a small way.

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16 minutes ago, BiggieD61 said:

 

Okay:cap_haloween:

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Okay, I now realize I opened a can of worms with out meaning too. I did not really want to become one more thread about the AFK system. I was hoping for a fun little thread.

So please take the debate to this thread https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/157694-what-to-do-if-a-real-life-emergency-happens-during-a-game/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-3743873

Or one of the many others.

Thank you,

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1 hour ago, Chaos_EN2 said:

Okay, I now realize I opened a can of worms with out meaning too. I did not really want to become one more thread about the AFK system. I was hoping for a fun little thread.

So please take the debate to this thread https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/157694-what-to-do-if-a-real-life-emergency-happens-during-a-game/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-3743873

Or one of the many others.

Thank you,

Because a real life emergency is the reason that 95% of people are disconnecting .... riiiiiiight ....

This isn't a can of worms, it's clear cut - disconnect too much and you get put in PvE.  If you are having daily "emergency" situations, turning pink in the game should be THE LEAST of your worries ....

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@Radar_X , @TugboatCommanderor @WolfofWarship nevermind.

2 hours ago, BiggieD61 said:

Because a real life emergency is the reason that 95% of people are disconnecting .... riiiiiiight ....

This isn't a can of worms, it's clear cut - disconnect too much and you get put in PvE.  If you are having daily "emergency" situations, turning pink in the game should be THE LEAST of your worries ....

 

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@Chaos_EN2  Who are you to start a thread and then try and dictate what gets said in it?  Obviously YOU put this in general discussion, not off-topic, and it's a thread about you being asked TO NOT POST IN A THREAD - then ironically you ask us to NOT POST IN YOUR THREAD?

Here is a tip, don't start a thread about other threads next time - stay in the original threads and you won't have to attempt to get moderation done in your own.

No need to close this thread mods - I am peaceing out of this and every other PvE complaint thread.  No minds are being changed and no attitudes enlightened.

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1 minute ago, BiggieD61 said:

@Chaos_EN2  Who are you to start a thread and then try and dictate what gets said in it?  Obviously YOU put this in general discussion, not off-topic, and it's a thread about you being asked TO NOT POST IN A THREAD - then ironically you ask us to NOT POST IN YOUR THREAD?

Here is a tip, don't start a thread about other threads next time - stay in the original threads and you won't have to attempt to get moderation done in your own.

No need to close this thread mods - I am peaceing out of this and every other PvE complaint thread.  No minds are being changed and no attitudes enlightened.

BiggieD61 I said I did not want the thread to go this way there is so much discord already. I meant this to be a fun thread, about SC and a gift I got, and how quick 24hrs can change things.

Sorry if I upset you, but the forum (IMO) has a ton of discord threads against this group or that group. My fault not anyone else that the thread got off track.

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Complains in this thread about another thread not being able to be a healthy debate. Complains when this thread turns into a debate....

Irony....

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1 hour ago, Ducky_shot said:

Complains in this thread about another thread not being able to be a healthy debate. Complains when this thread turns into a debate....

Irony....

As I said I did not want the thread to go that route, every keeps saying there are to many post about it. But fine debate all you want.

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