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My Thoughts on Asashio

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I find Asashio to be a nice little ship with her main advantage being her stealth and her torpedoes being second. She is a dangerous little ship in that she can cause great distractions for the enemy. What I meant by this is that because she has great concealment, she can almost always runaway from any situation. She, like all IJN DDs, are "priority targets" by many players. Taking advantage of this, I will purposely get myself seen in the hopes that the enemy will fire on me and light themselves up. This means that my allies can fire at them while hidden. When my concealment returns to normal, I would then pop smoke and give cover and eyes for my allies while doing torpedo runs. Depending on what is shooting what, I will light myself up again in order to direct enemy attention to me so they can stop shooting my allies. This is simply what I found what works.

I don't make much sense :fish_aqua:

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When the other team is shooting at, but isn't hitting you, they aren't scoring hits on your team. I haven't bought her yet, I still am on the fence. If there was 30 days of premium time in one of the bundles I probably would have gotten her already.

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Still on the fence about purchasing her, but I liked your feedback.

As we all know, her effectiveness is heavily reliant on matchmaker being kind to you, but I think she'd make gravy the next time a full battleship line is released.

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16 minutes ago, Ace_04 said:

Still on the fence about purchasing her, but I liked your feedback.

As we all know, her effectiveness is heavily reliant on matchmaker being kind to you, but I think she'd make gravy the next time a full battleship line is released.

What is left? Italians, and ... ?

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6 minutes ago, Ace_04 said:

Still on the fence about purchasing her, but I liked your feedback.

Same. I am not sure I want to spend $40+ on a Kagero. Yes, the torps are different and of limited use. But it's not like Kagero is killing it with her torps anyway. Can't hit CA and DD? Well you just described Kagero's torps most of the time.

She's really not better or worse than Kagero. Just different.

My main issue with her is I already have Chung Mu and YueYang for super stealth torp game play. They don't dump as many torps with TRB, but hit well and reliably still.

The question is then is $40 worth the occasional giggles when accidentally hitting those back line hugging BBs.

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17 minutes ago, Ace_04 said:

Still on the fence about purchasing her, but I liked your feedback.

As we all know, her effectiveness is heavily reliant on matchmaker being kind to you, but I think she'd make gravy the next time a full battleship line is released.

It's the same for all IJN DDs. Just gotta make use of her great concealment and her "anti-dispersion". Had a game where there had to be at least 5 ships aiming at me and they all missed (I had about 1200HP). I eventually died and it was my first battle.

1 minute ago, chewonit said:

Same. I am not sure I want to spend $40+ on a Kagero. Yes, the torps are different and of limited use. But it's not like Kagero is killing it with her torps anyway. Can't hit CA and DD? Well you just described Kagero's torps most of the time.

She's really not better or worse than Kagero. Just different.

My main issue with her is I already have Chung Mu and YueYang for super stealth torp game play. They don't dump as many torps with TRB, but hit well and reliably still.

The question is then is $40 worth the occasional giggles when accidentally hitting those back line hugging BBs.

More stealth (maybe, I don't know their stats), more distraction (IJN DDs scare everyone (and Khabs)).

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7 minutes ago, Umikami said:

What is left? Italians, and ... ?

Russians, and perhaps one day, some nice South American dreadnoughts.

7 minutes ago, chewonit said:

Same. I am not sure I want to spend $40+ on a Kagero. Yes, the torps are different and of limited use. But it's not like Kagero is killing it with her torps anyway. Can't hit CA and DD? Well you just described Kagero's torps most of the time.

She's really not better or worse than Kagero. Just different.

My main issue with her is I already have Chung Mu and YueYang for super stealth torp game play. They don't dump as many torps with TRB, but hit well and reliably still.

The question is then is $40 worth the occasional giggles when accidentally hitting those back line hugging BBs.

Good points here.  She is a very niche ship, and considering I didn't like Kagero all that much back when I played through her, I'll probably end up passing on Asashio anyway.

Like you said, we have Yueyang and Chung Mu which are more versatile, have more versatile armament, and most importantly, are free.

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11 minutes ago, chewonit said:

Same. I am not sure I want to spend $40+ on a Kagero. Yes, the torps are different and of limited use. But it's not like Kagero is killing it with her torps anyway. Can't hit CA and DD? Well you just described Kagero's torps most of the time.

She's really not better or worse than Kagero. Just different.

My main issue with her is I already have Chung Mu and YueYang for super stealth torp game play. They don't dump as many torps with TRB, but hit well and reliably still.

The question is then is $40 worth the occasional giggles when accidentally hitting those back line hugging BBs.

i haven't actually had a 'occasional' game with these torps. unlike normal torpedoes in the Japanese line, these are not feast or famine torps. sure they only do 1 thing, but they do that one thing VERY well, and very CONSTANTLY. 72knots, with .9km acquisition means if you know what your doing, almost non of your salvos will ever be a 0 damage salvo. i dont think comparing her to kagero is really fair in this instance., yes they have the same hull, but your comparing a generalist to a specialist. of course when not in its very specific element the generalist will look better, but looking at it this way makes you miss the whole picture.

bottom line, asasho can only hit certain targets, but will hit those targets with unheard-of consistency for a DD, while kagero will hit all targets, but is feast/famine gameplay.

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Keep in mind everyone:

  • IJN Destroyer Timeline
    • Kamikaze, Mutuski, Fubuki (Ayanami, Akatsuki), Hatsuharu,  Shirayatsu, Asashio, Kagero, Yugumo, Akizuki, Shimakaze

They are all different ships with very similar characteristics. What I call the "Fubuki Type", "Minakaze Type, and "Hatsuharu Type". Asashio also has only two dual 25mm AA guns. :fish_boom:

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Please send me all of your Asashio's.  They keep bringing me more kills, more XP, more credits and more wins.

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Fun fact: I scared off 2 Bensons in my Asashio with no support. I don't know why either...

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even though asashio's torp can't damage cruisers and DD, they often cause some level of panic and most of them would either get flushed out of smoke, or started turning and show broadside for our team to citadel.  LOL

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5 minutes ago, Xcalib3r said:

even though asashio's torp can't damage cruisers and DD, they often cause some level of panic and most of them would either get flushed out of smoke, or started turning and show broadside for our team to citadel.  LOL

It's all about making use of that and causing a distraction.

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Hindenburg creeps just that much higher on the awesome list...

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1 hour ago, Ace_04 said:

Russians, and perhaps one day, some nice South American dreadnoughts.

The South American dreadnaughts would be both welcome and exciting; more paper Russian ships would not be either.

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9 minutes ago, Umikami said:

more paper Russian ships would not be either.

It's one thing to make paper ships to fill a few holes in a line.  It's a completely different thing to use paper ships to fill in half of a tech tree.

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3 minutes ago, Ace_04 said:

It's one thing to make paper ships to fill a few holes in a line.  It's a completely different thing to use paper ships to fill in half of a tech tree.

We will just make them all be Gangut's and Nikolai's and increase their speed by one knot as the up tier.

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6 minutes ago, Ace_04 said:

It's one thing to make paper ships to fill a few holes in a line.  It's a completely different thing to use paper ships to fill in half of a tech tree.

Ya, I agree with that ... which leads me to my next question ... How many Russian BBs actually sailed? (and in what years?)

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I bought Asashio but I think that I may have wasted my money. The bote is very limited on what it can do. Example; in a Ranked battle 2 Reds, a DD and a CA, were sitting in a cap and our Asashio couldn't do anything to them because his torps couldn't hit either one. It would've been shooting fish in a barrel for a real DD, like Harekaze, Lo Yang, or Kidd.

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4 minutes ago, ReddNekk said:

I bought Asashio but I think that I may have wasted my money. The bote is very limited on what it can do. Example; in a Ranked battle 2 Reds, a DD and a CA, were sitting in a cap and our Asashio couldn't do anything to them because his torps couldn't hit either one. It would've been shooting fish in a barrel for a real DD, like Harekaze, Lo Yang, or Kidd.

Yeah it's no good for ranked. It's really for random battles and having some fun. It is glorious fun to shred BBs in a random from time to time.

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12 minutes ago, ReddNekk said:

I bought Asashio but I think that I may have wasted my money. The bote is very limited on what it can do. Example; in a Ranked battle 2 Reds, a DD and a CA, were sitting in a cap and our Asashio couldn't do anything to them because his torps couldn't hit either one. It would've been shooting fish in a barrel for a real DD, like Harekaze, Lo Yang, or Kidd.

 

7 minutes ago, tenfingerstentoes said:

Yeah it's no good for ranked. It's really for random battles and having some fun. It is glorious fun to shred BBs in a random from time to time.

It depends on how you use Asashio. If you use her like... a "normal" IJN DD, she won't make it. I got about 5-6 straight wins in Ranked in her because my focus is on supporting my team and being a distraction. I won't and don't want to fight any other ships alone because I know I will die. Make use of her concealment to scare the enemy and distract them from your team. You don't have to hit them but you need to make them fear you like all the other DDs.

  • Find where the team is going
  • Take the cap in their direction
  • Cover your allies by popping smoke when you see shell fire
  • Make yourself known
  • Dodge
  • Torpedo
  • Make yourself known
  • Dodge
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  • Win!
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Yeah I mean clearly you CAN get wins, but, honestly, there is no universe wherein taking Asashio over Loyang, with no prior knowledge of what the other team will look like, makes sense.

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4 minutes ago, tenfingerstentoes said:

Yeah it's no good for ranked. It's really for random battles and having some fun. It is glorious fun to shred BBs in a random from time to time.

Nice to know. :Smile_Default:

I definitely wont use Asashio in ranked, it wouldn't be fair to my team. 'Sides, I'm doing pretty decently with Lo Yang.

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2 minutes ago, tenfingerstentoes said:

Yeah I mean clearly you CAN get wins, but, honestly, there is no universe wherein taking Asashio over Loyang, with no prior knowledge of what the other team will look like, makes sense.

You don't need to know what they look like since you won't engage them either way. Make the enemy fear you then use your concealment to hide again. Being a distraction can help your team greatly. I had a battle where I distracted a Alabama from shooting my North Carolina. The Alabama just kept on shooting me while bow-forward in reverse. I kept telling him to shoot something he could hit but he kept shooting me and ignoring the NC right next to me. Eventually a CA did fire on me but that means that my NC was still safe.

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