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Question about BFT and AFT skills

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The skills are described as affecting "main armament with a calibre up to and including 139mm, AND SECONDARY GUNS."

Does this mean ANY secondaries, regardless of calibre?

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19 minutes ago, B_Wilco said:

yes, all of them.

Now we know why they won't allow late-Victorian-era mixed-battery (e.g. 9.2 inch and 7.5 inch) armoured cruisers - imagine near-8-inch secondaries with BFT and AFT applied! :Smile_teethhappy: Or even worse, the Powerful-class cruisers - two twin 9.2 inch and SIXTEEN six-inch (in her final form). Imagine having a Leander or Perth strapped to each side of your ship in a Tier 2 or 3 match...

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1 hour ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Now we know why they won't allow late-Victorian-era mixed-battery (e.g. 9.2 inch and 7.5 inch) armoured cruisers - imagine near-8-inch secondaries with BFT and AFT applied! :Smile_teethhappy: Or even worse, the Powerful-class cruisers - two twin 9.2 inch and SIXTEEN six-inch (in her final form). Imagine having a Leander or Perth strapped to each side of your ship in a Tier 2 or 3 match...

So what? The skills cut off at 139 mm, since the skills wouldn't affect the 9.2 or 7.5 guns that doesnt make sense.

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1 minute ago, Kevs02Accord said:

So what? The skills cut off at 139 mm, since the skills wouldn't affect the 9.2 or 7.5 guns that doesnt make sense.

Read what was said above about ALL secondary guns. If the 7.5's got classified as secondaries, BFT and AFT would apply to them.

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8 minutes ago, Kevs02Accord said:

So what? The skills cut off at 139 mm, since the skills wouldn't affect the 9.2 or 7.5 guns that doesnt make sense.

If they cut off at 139mm which they don't then German secondary builds would be useless which they are not. The 139mm is a reference to most DD and some cruiser main battery guns.

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1 hour ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Now we know why they won't allow late-Victorian-era mixed-battery (e.g. 9.2 inch and 7.5 inch) armoured cruisers - imagine near-8-inch secondaries with BFT and AFT applied! :Smile_teethhappy: Or even worse, the Powerful-class cruisers - two twin 9.2 inch and SIXTEEN six-inch (in her final form). Imagine having a Leander or Perth strapped to each side of your ship in a Tier 2 or 3 match...

There are ships in the game now with much better secondary suites than that. German and French battleships come to mind right away.

21 minutes ago, Kevs02Accord said:

So what? The skills cut off at 139 mm, since the skills wouldn't affect the 9.2 or 7.5 guns that doesnt make sense.

Not unless they're main battery guns; if they're secondaries they will receive the buff regardless of the caliber.

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9 minutes ago, Umikami said:

There are ships in the game now with much better secondary suites than that.

At Tier 8, yes I will grant you that, but at tier 2 to 4???

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5 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

At Tier 8, yes I will grant you that, but at tier 2 to 4???

Can you say MIKASA?

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41 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Read what was said above about ALL secondary guns. If the 7.5's got classified as secondaries, BFT and AFT would apply to them.

 

33 minutes ago, IronMike11B4O said:

If they cut off at 139mm which they don't then German secondary builds would be useless which they are not. The 139mm is a reference to most DD and some cruiser main battery guns.

 

20 minutes ago, Umikami said:

There are ships in the game now with much better secondary suites than that. German and French battleships come to mind right away.

Not unless they're main battery guns; if they're secondaries they will receive the buff regardless of the caliber.

Interesting, that is not how I interpreted the description of the skill, to me its 139mm for main battery and 139 mm secondary guns. I just assumed they didn't include the full text. I believe, for clarity, they should have improves main caliber up to 139 mm and all secondary guns or even all secondary gun calibers.

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2 minutes ago, Umikami said:

Can you say MIKASA?

Eight a side? Remember, I'm talking about a large protected cruiser here, not a BB.

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13 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Eight a side? Remember, I'm talking about a large protected cruiser here, not a BB.

and I thought we were talking about BFT and AFT skills, which apply equally to each type of ship ... My bad!

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