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The Asashio from a Battleship players point of view. WARNING WARGAMING

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 So I was just watching IChase's video on the Asashio and for the life of me I can not figure out why Wargaming would introduce such a ship into the game.  The current DD's in the game are a counter to BB's, however using skill I can still do a lot to protect my ship from torpedo area denial attacks and poor DD play. With the Asashio THERE IS NO DEFENSE and NO AMOUNT OF SKILL will help me counter it. So here is what I will do to counter the Asashio in a Battleship. EVERY game in which I encounter one, I will simply tell my teammates that I am sorry I do not play in games in which the Asashio is present and I will go back to port. This will in effect RUIN the in game experience of the 11 other players on my team and they will complain....VERY LOUDLY. I encourage ALL battleship players to do the same thing. I really enjoy this game but Wargaming can not force me to play in matches that find unenjoyable. So go ahead release a ship that makes Battleship seal clubbing a reality and see what happens. I do not care about stats so abandoning twenty or thirty games in a row will not make a difference to me....your customer base, however, are going to be irate especially when other battleship players start doing the exact same thing.

CORRECTION...I will not leave games early....I will simply REFUSE to come off the 9/10 line, I will not fire my guns and stay concealed until the Asashio is destroyed. I can not be penalized for trying to counter a ship that Wargaming is putting in the game. Staying concealed and not giving away my position is a VALID tactic. 

 

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1 minute ago, Belthorian said:

 So I was just watching IChase's video on the Asashio and for the life of me I can not figure out why Wargaming would introduce such a ship into the game.  The current DD's in the game are a counter to BB's, however using skill I can still do a lot to protect my ship from torpedo area denial attacks and poor DD play. With the Asashio THERE IS NO DEFENSE and NO AMOUNT OF SKILL will help me counter it. So here is what I will do to counter the Asashio in a Battleship. EVERY game in which I encounter one, I will simply tell my teammates that I am sorry I do not play in games in which the Asashio is present and I will go back to port. This will in effect RUIN the in game experience of the 11 other players on my team and they will complain....VERY LOUDLY. I encourage ALL battleship players to do the same thing. I really enjoy this game but Wargaming can not force me to play in matches that find unenjoyable. So go ahead release a ship that makes Battleship seal clubbing a reality and see what happens. I do not care about stats so abandoning twenty or thirty games in a row will not make a difference to me....your customer base, however, are going to be irate especially when other battleship players start doing the exact same thing.

 

What will happen if you leave matches early, is you will get banished to coop when the new penalty system is instituted and eventually banned. This is no different than players who whine about cvs and quit any match they get into with one. 

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Easy: Play more cruisers in the first days that ship hit the store. Preferable those with Radar. Or some DD that are good at hunting down other DD.

There are other kinds of ship out there besides BB.

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Hope the door hits ya on the way out.

In all seriousness, if you want "unfun" try playing a DD in a very Radar heavy match or against one of those CV players that's actually competent. yet I still find ways to make myself useful. I still find ways to make a difference. If I can score top vs a team with 5 Radars and a super-unicum Hakuryu, you can find ways to play against an Asashio. I have nonexistent sympathy for you.

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2 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said:

 

What will happen if you leave matches early, is you will get banished to coop when the new penalty system is instituted and eventually banned. This is no different than players who whine about cvs and quit any match they get into with one. 

its easier to escort CV than quit  :P

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6 minutes ago, Belthorian said:

 With RADAR THERE IS NO DEFENSE and NO AMOUNT OF SKILL will help me counter it.

FTFY.

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6 minutes ago, Destroyer_ShimakazeChan said:

Hope the door hits ya on the way out.

In all seriousness, if you want "unfun" try playing a DD in a very Radar heavy match or against one of those CV players that's actually competent. yet I still find ways to make myself useful. I still find ways to make a difference. If I can score top vs a team with 5 Radars and a super-unicum Hakuryu, you can find ways to play against an Asashio. I have nonexistent sympathy for you.

TESTIFY!

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2 minutes ago, Destroyer_ShimakazeChan said:

Hope the door hits ya on the way out.

In all seriousness, if you want "unfun" try playing a DD in a very Radar heavy match or against one of those CV players that's actually competent. yet I still find ways to make myself useful. I still find ways to make a difference. If I can score top vs a team with 5 Radars and a super-unicum Hakuryu, you can find ways to play against an Asashio. I have nonexistent sympathy for you.

^This^ And on the same note, try driving Cruisers and experience the joy of being focused on by every BB within range. As a Cruiser main, I too have nonexistent sympathy for you.

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11 minutes ago, Belthorian said:

So here is what I will do to counter the Asashio in a Battleship. EVERY game in which I encounter one, I will simply tell my teammates that I am sorry I do not play in games in which the Asashio is present and I will go back to port.

I hope you like Co-Op.  WG will take Random Battles away from you if you do this too much.  Good luck with that.  :Smile_popcorn:

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Just now, legozer said:

TESTIFY!

Sadly the particular match I'm referring to happened sometime in January so the replay is outdated :Smile_sad:

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8 minutes ago, Destroyer_ShimakazeChan said:



In all seriousness, if you want "unfun" try playing a DD in a very Radar heavy match or against one of those CV players that's actually competent.

Ugh... yea becuase its 'fun' for any class DD, CL/CA, or BB to deal with a unicum CV. Even CA... he just flies around you till the end when your AA is damaged and reduced.

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8 minutes ago, Destroyer_ShimakazeChan said:

Hope the door hits ya on the way out.

In all seriousness, if you want "unfun" try playing a DD in a very Radar heavy match or against one of those CV players that's actually competent. yet I still find ways to make myself useful. I still find ways to make a difference. If I can score top vs a team with 5 Radars and a super-unicum Hakuryu, you can find ways to play against an Asashio. I have nonexistent sympathy for you.

Even in RADAR heavy games...SKILLED DD players can still dominate the game. The Asashio was created for one reason to make Battleships USELESS in games.

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The  players who use the new DD will have many reasons to hate it such as all the Team kills that will likely happen.

20km Torps have a high chance of hitting unexpected targets.

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This will only hurt your team initially, and yourself eventually after getting reported I would think.

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2 minutes ago, mavfin87 said:

I hope you like Co-Op.  WG will take Random Battles away from you if you do this too much.  Good luck with that.  :Smile_popcorn:

I will simply adjust my tactics, I will tell my team that I will not move off the 9/10 line or even fire my guns until the Asashio is destroyed. I can not be penalized for trying to counter a ship that Wargaming put in the game.

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im just annoyed that this DD will punish BBs that push(you know, the thing that BBs are SUPPOSED to do) and just increase the already heavy BB camping meta

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1 minute ago, Belthorian said:

Even in RADAR heavy games...SKILLED DD players can still dominate the game. The Asashio was created for one reason to make Battleships USELESS in games.

Try playing a Yugumo or a Kagero vs a skilled Hakuryu or Midway. I hope you've played the Russians because that's pretty much what you're reduced to when you're being permalit by fighters

On a side note, Radar was made specifically to counter smoke and stealth, both of which DDs are very heavily reliant on. It varies from skill level to skill level but to an extent thats true for every DD in the game, so yea

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Just now, Belthorian said:

I will simply adjust my tactics, I will tell my team that I will not move off the 9/10 line or even fire my guns until the Asashio is destroyed. I can not be penalized for trying to counter a ship that Wargaming put in the game.

You can indeed be penalized for not participating, especially if you tell the team that in-game.  Free speech does not apply.  Good luck with that.

 

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Just now, mavfin87 said:

You can indeed be penalized for not participating, especially if you tell the team that in-game.  Free speech does not apply.  Good luck with that.

 

This^^^

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16 minutes ago, mavfin87 said:

You can indeed be penalized for not participating, especially if you tell the team that in-game.  Free speech does not apply.  Good luck with that.

 

People act like that matters. Just makes them want to play less and therefore gives WG less money.

People won't play something that isn't fun. And if WG tries to stop them from leaving games they find unfair then that just means they probably won't play at all. That is a loss for WG. End of story.

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1 minute ago, Destroyer_ShimakazeChan said:

This^^^

I guarantee that I would report w/replay him, too.  I don't care what his problem is, if he's going to AFK or not participate, I want him gone, so someone who will actually play the game will be in the game.

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3 minutes ago, mavfin87 said:

You can indeed be penalized for not participating, especially if you tell the team that in-game.  Free speech does not apply.  Good luck with that.

 

I am participating, I will be maneuvering my ship...I just will not be pushing a cap or firing my guns. I am COUNTERING the Asashio by staying concealed. That would be like reporting DD's who are hiding in smoke, they are not participating.

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