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Do you keep Z23 after getting Z46?

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23 is pretty decent I sold mine then bought it back as it's a unique play style with the 15.0cm's. The 46 on the other hand is a super beast only rival it has is the Fletcher for Dogfighting in a cap at tier 9 that being said the 46 will usually come out on top.

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about the same difference between Belfast and Emerald.

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I'm still on the Z-23.  But I'm going to keep it after I get the Z-46.  The Z-23 is a solid boat and I keep all boats that have permanent camo.  Congratulatory (anniversary) camo in this case.

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I found love with the Maass, the Z-23 never stuck with me whatsoever. I was just a [edited] captain in her though, couldn't make her skills work for me. OTOH z46 has been a beast to play so far. Getting the 3x2 layout and being able to boast a 23k health pool when running SE makes her a joy to play imo.

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2 hours ago, USSRichardNixon said:

Is Z46 better than Z23 tier for tier?

Good god, ABSOLUTELY YES!!! 

IMO, the Z23 was pretty good, but not that great in large part because I didn't like her guns one bit.  OTOH, the Z46 is a tier 9 beast with exceptional guns.  I just don't like these DDs with CL guns.  Their reloads are too slow for counter-DD work.  And while they may be good for shooting larger ships, I tend to see that as secondary to shooting other DDs in most destroyers.  But the Z23 is kinda odd in that she has more of the larger guns than the smaller (good anti-DD) guns.  I know that some people like the larger guns.  I'm just not one of those people.

I ended up not keeping the Z23 myself.

 

 

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As a rule I tend to keep t6 and above. There are exceptions. Fargut got cut because it’s toros aren’t that good and Mahan has more health and better torps. CO because it’s so slow. Algérie nothing more. Leander- just didn’t click. But kept Fiji even though Ed is very similar. 

Not there yet but I’ll keeo the z23 even as I move on. 

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The Z23 felt like a Mass with worse matchmaking to me, especially since the 150s didn't fit my play style.  The 46 was definitely a step up, but in the end I didn't care for either and sold them both.  If you enjoy them and feel like you'll play them in randoms or ranked keep them, otherwise the Z-52 is a lot of fun so don't feel bad about using the 23 and 46 to fund getting that later on.

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3 hours ago, USSRichardNixon said:

Is Z46 better than Z23 tier for tier?

I kept the Gaede, Z-23 and Z-52. No sense in keeping Z-46 since Z-52 is a straight up upgrade in all parameters. As for the Gaede and Z-23, they only need 13 points (on the captain) to be effective in battle, plus those 6" guns are brutal in a DD on DD duel. For tier 6 and tier 8, they are very efficient ships to have in terms the time needed to train a captain for them.

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4 minutes ago, evilleMonkeigh said:

Z46. Sell Z23.  Buy a Lo Yang if you enjoy T8MM and like hydro.

This man has a point.

I didn't hate the 23 - but other than the speed at which the torpedoes reload, the Lo Yang is in every way a better boat than the 23.

I did end up keeping the 23 (have the anniversary camo for it) - but it rusts with no commander onboard, and hasn't been run since I moved on to the 46 (which likewise hasn't been run since the purchase of the 52).

Its your call, of course - if you need the credits or modules, then sell it - you are very, very unlikely to miss it after you move on to the 46.  And though it doesn't make a great deal of financial sense - you could always repurchase it should you find you miss it - but my bet is you won't.

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5 hours ago, Ulthwey said:

No sense in keeping Z-46 since Z-52 is a straight up upgrade in all parameters. 

Not quite. Z46 has better concealment, tighter turning circle and better gun dispersion than z52. 

 

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If I reach the Z-23 and would go up to Z-46, I'd keep the Z-23 anyway...because of anniversary paint...

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I'll be keeping her simply because it has a free permanent camo.

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I tend to keep ships that actually existed, but Z-46 is light years better then 23. 

 

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