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What Happened to Monaghan's guns?

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On Wargaming Wiki:

127 mm/38 Mk21 mod. 12 х 1 pcs.
. . . Average Damage per Second6.4 
. . . Firing Range5.01 km.
127 mm/38 Mk24 mod. 112 х 1 pcs.
. . . Average Damage per Second16 
. . . Firing Range5.01 km.
20 mm Oerlikon Mk48 х 1 pcs.
. . . Average Damage per Second28.8 
. . . Firing Range2.01 km.

 

Historically: 

So what happened to the Bofors? Even Farragut has them!

It would be nice if in game we can choose between stock (5-gun with less health) and 1943 hull (4-gun)

But at its current stage it feels like a weird unhistorical  hybrid. 

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I just don’t get it. 

Why do ALL T6 Premium DDs have to have crap AA?

not to mention those jokes on Shinonome and Gallant. That 1 AA rating.. lol

 

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Those Wiki numbers tend to be screwed up occasionally. From the pics that were posted, she‘ll probably have the Bofors.

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5 minutes ago, SireneRacker said:

Those Wiki numbers tend to be screwed up occasionally. From the pics that were posted, she‘ll probably have the Bofors.

 

Her current version lacks them. Data from GM3D.

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12 minutes ago, SireneRacker said:

Those Wiki numbers tend to be screwed up occasionally. From the pics that were posted, she‘ll probably have the Bofors.

The extended tech tree in game shows no bofors. 

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28 minutes ago, Plaatduutsch said:

 

Why do ALL T6 Premium DDs have to have crap AA?

 

So they can’t shoot down spotters and strike planes.

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2 minutes ago, Gojira420 said:

So they can’t shoot down spotters and strike planes.

So why should silver dd be able to? 

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1 minute ago, Plaatduutsch said:

So why should silver dd be able to? 

Most main line destroyers can barely defend themselves at all.  Not exactly a long list of T6 DDs that can mount defensive fire.  There are only a couple of AA DDs in the game at all as it is.  IMO it just isn’t the direction the devs want the game to go.

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23 minutes ago, Gojira420 said:

Most main line destroyers can barely defend themselves at all.  Not exactly a long list of T6 DDs that can mount defensive fire.  There are only a couple of AA DDs in the game at all as it is.  IMO it just isn’t the direction the devs want the game to go.

At current stat, they aren’t going to take my money 

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23 minutes ago, Gojira420 said:

Most main line destroyers can barely defend themselves at all.  Not exactly a long list of T6 DDs that can mount defensive fire.  There are only a couple of AA DDs in the game at all as it is.  IMO it just isn’t the direction the devs want the game to go.

At current stat, they aren’t going to take my money 

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7 minutes ago, Plaatduutsch said:

At current stat, they aren’t going to take my money 

If you want a premium AA destroyer, maybe consider the Sims or the Kidd.  You have to go pretty deep into the skill tree to make it work, but they do 4x damage with defensive fire.  I can’t think of a single premium sub T6 DD with strong AA.  Maybe somebody else can think of one.

 

but you know all this already.  Don’t pay, use USN DDs with AA spec, and good luck.  Can’t believe I fell for this :)

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The devs are NEVER going to expose low tier CVs to AA destroyers, NEVER....

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22 minutes ago, Brhinosaurus said:

What is Monaghan's shtick, anyhow?  Seems like a C hull Farragut.  

Exactly, but last I knew it couldn’t mount defensive fire.

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1 hour ago, Gojira420 said:

If you want a premium AA destroyer, maybe consider the Sims or the Kidd.  You have to go pretty deep into the skill tree to make it work, but they do 4x damage with defensive fire.  I can’t think of a single premium sub T6 DD with strong AA.  Maybe somebody else can think of one.

 

but you know all this already.  Don’t pay, use USN DDs with AA spec, and good luck.  Can’t believe I fell for this :)

That’s exactly the problem. The biggest threat to newbie T6 CV is those seal clubbder CVs. I have encountered plenty of RJ and Independece that have almost 1000 games in the current ship, and they make the enemy newbie CV suffer a lot while nothing on the team can help them at all!

 

Seriously, the only threat at T6 is cleveland, and experienced CV player can avoid them easily. 

The skill wall and lack of counter make them seal club way too easily! The result is the entire enemy team suffer greatly! 

Huanghe had def AA and WG nerfed it. 

I don’t want the same thing happened to Monaghan. 

As for DD with AA at low tier

nicholas and Farragut have decent AA with def AA. 

WG, please bring a Monaghan with bofors and DP 5” with Def AA! 

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39 minutes ago, landcollector said:

I'm likely to get Monaghan regardless of her stats, due to her history.

Isn't she KIA?

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I’ve got lots of games and a 63% WR in my Sims. Didn’t even know it had defensive fire as an option. That’s how often I worry about CVs at T7...

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1 hour ago, landcollector said:

I'm likely to get Monaghan regardless of her stats, due to her history.

You're better off getting the farragut and using a mod to change the name then giving wg money for a trash ship. They shouldn't be rewarded for releasing garbage.

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1 hour ago, Thornir said:

I’ve got lots of games and a 63% WR in my Sims. Didn’t even know it had defensive fire as an option. That’s how often I worry about CVs at T7...

Sims has the best maneuverability among all DDs

Of course no worry 

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The answer is quite easy.

 

 

The ship WG is giving us is Monaghan, circa sometime around mid-1942.

 

Which is when her armament was 4x1 5"/38, 8x1 20mm/70, and 2x4 533mm TT.

 

From her original armament (5x1 5"/38, 4x1 .50 cal MGs, 2x4 533mm TT), the .50 cals MGs and one of the 5" guns were stripped off in mid '42, and were replaced with eight 20mm cannons and more DCT.

 

In late 1942 they lost three 20mm cannons in exchange for a 2x2 battery of 40mm cannons.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Carl said:

Her current version lacks them. Data from GM3D.

 

8 hours ago, Plaatduutsch said:

The extended tech tree in game shows no bofors. 

Then she is probably in one of the refits between the two you posted in the OP.

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But... what is the shtick?  Like:

Black: Fletcher, but: (-) super slow torpedoes, (+) long range torpedoes, radar

Kidd: Fletcher, but: (-) only one torpedo launcher, (+) tier VIII instead of IX, heal

Monaghan: Farragut, but...?

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1 hour ago, Brhinosaurus said:

But... what is the shtick?  Like:

Black: Fletcher, but: (-) super slow torpedoes, (+) long range torpedoes, radar

Kidd: Fletcher, but: (-) only one torpedo launcher, (+) tier VIII instead of IX, heal

Monaghan: Farragut, but...?

.3km better concealment, worse AA?

I know it's not much, but .3km at tier VI means she can (technically) stealth torp and outspot other DDs, which is useful.

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