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Obscure trivia question for you guys:

The Imperial Japanese Navy trained extensively before WW2, preparing for massive surface engagements that, for the most part, never happened.  But that philosophy is what drove the development of the Yamato-class.  Anyhow, here's the trivia question:

 

Only one IJN battleship's AP shells sank a US battleship.  Which Japanese Battleship sank which US battleship, and during what battle did this occur?

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IJN BB sinking USN BB irl? I thought it never happened.

There is technically only 2 times in WW2 where a battleship sank another battleship (Bismarck vs Hood, Washington vs Kirishima)

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6 minutes ago, VonLippe said:

Only one IJN battleship's AP shells sank a US battleship.  Which Japanese Battleship sank which US battleship, and during what battle did this occur?

Surely that'd be Arizona at Pearl Harbour as the Japanese bombers were carrying 16" AP shells (Nagato iirc) that had been modified to be dropped from an aircraft and to function like a bomb.

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6 minutes ago, VonLippe said:

Obscure trivia question for you guys:

The Imperial Japanese Navy trained extensively before WW2, preparing for massive surface engagements that, for the most part, never happened.  But that philosophy is what drove the development of the Yamato-class.  Anyhow, here's the trivia question:

 

Only one IJN battleship's AP shells sank a US battleship.  Which Japanese Battleship sank which US battleship, and during what battle did this occur?

Without looking, Nagato sinking Arizona, Dec 7, at Pearl Harbor. Or more accurately, an old AP projectile from Nagato converted to an Armor Piercing bomb dropped from a Kate sank the Arizona.

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Yep

18 minutes ago, zFireWyvern said:

Surely that'd be Arizona at Pearl Harbour as the Japanese bombers were carrying 16" AP shells (Nagato iirc) that had been modified to be dropped from an aircraft and to function like a bomb.

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Its either Nagato or Mutsu - the only 16" armed BB's in the IJN at the time with:

41 cm/45 3rd Year Type naval gun

Obsolete Type 88 shells were modified in 1939–40 to create the Type 99 No. 80 Mk 5 armor-piercing bomb used during the attack on Pearl Harbor.[9] The armor-piercing cap and windscreen were removed, the body was machined down and tapered to reduce weight and a new, thinner, base plug installed with two fuzes.[9]The filling was replaced by 23 kilograms (50 lb) of trinitroanisole and the bomb weighed 796.8 kilograms (1,757 lb).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41_cm/45_3rd_Year_Type_naval_gun

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We have some very smart cookies in this forum!  Yep, it was IJN Nagato's 16" AP shells dropped on the USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor. 

The IJN planned the Pearl Harbor raid very carefully.  They modified the torpedo's to be dropped by putting wooden fins on the forward body of the torps, so they would plane out flatter after dropping and not simply imbed themselves in the shallow harbor bottom.  Their other problem was that the Imperial Navy's air arm didn't have a decent AP bomb.  So they adapted 16" AP shells by fitting them with guidance fins.

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New question (may be easier)...

Various navies have different methods of designating turrets on their warships.  The USN uses "ABC" for forward turrets and "XYZ" for turrets aft of the superstructure.

The German Navy used a similar scheme, but named the turrets from bow to stern starting with "A" phonetically, so the Bismarck (for example) had "Anton, Bruno, Caesar, Dora"

The British Royal Navy also used "ABCD"...with one very notable exception in WW1.  What ship was it and what was it's (unofficial) turret nomenclature?

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5 hours ago, VonLippe said:

The British Royal Navy also used "ABCD"...with one very notable exception in WW1.  What ship was it and what was it's (unofficial) turret nomenclature?

I don't know if this is the correct answer but HMS Lion (Vice Admiral David Beatty's flagship at Jutland) had a 4-turret configuration, "ABQX"

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"Q" turret took a shell hit during Jutland, and only the turret roof being blown off saved the ship from following the explosive examples of Queen Mary, Invincible, and Indefatigable

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12 hours ago, VonLippe said:

New question (may be easier)...

Various navies have different methods of designating turrets on their warships.  The USN uses "ABC" for forward turrets and "XYZ" for turrets aft of the superstructure.

The German Navy used a similar scheme, but named the turrets from bow to stern starting with "A" phonetically, so the Bismarck (for example) had "Anton, Bruno, Caesar, Dora"

The British Royal Navy also used "ABCD"...with one very notable exception in WW1.  What ship was it and what was it's (unofficial) turret nomenclature?

I'm going to hazard a guess as to that Brazilian Battleship HMS Agincourt, which Brazil could never pay for.  It had 7 turrets, each turret labeled Sunday, Monday, Tuesday ect.

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Moving on with the trivia, Which Battleship had to duel her own sister ship's guns during WWII?

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Sventex is correct that the answer was HMS Agincourt.  Turrets were named (from bow to stern) Sunday,  Monday... thru Saturday for the sternmost turret.  Now wouldn't that be an interesting ship in WoWs?

 

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3 hours ago, VonLippe said:

Sventex is correct that the answer was HMS Agincourt.  Turrets were named (from bow to stern) Sunday,  Monday... thru Saturday for the sternmost turret.  Now wouldn't that be an interesting ship in WoWs?

 

Unfortunately, it's been supplanted by the Lyons as the Battleship with the most guns.

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On 3/7/2018 at 8:18 AM, Sventex said:

Moving on with the trivia, Which Battleship had to duel her own sister ship's guns during WWII?

The closest I can come up with would be USS Pennsylvania at Surigao Strait. She had at least 3 of USS Arizona's guns on board, plus guns from the USS Oklahoma that had been returned to inventory after being salvaged, but she never fired a shot during the battle, and it certainly wasn't a duel. USS Nevada also had guns from USS Oklahoma, but she didn't see a surface action. Richelieu used Jean Bart's guns as replacements in 1943, but also didn't get into a surface action after that point.

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7 hours ago, SgtBeltfed said:

The closest I can come up with would be USS Pennsylvania at Surigao Strait. She had at least 3 of USS Arizona's guns on board, plus guns from the USS Oklahoma that had been returned to inventory after being salvaged, but she never fired a shot during the battle, and it certainly wasn't a duel. USS Nevada also had guns from USS Oklahoma, but she didn't see a surface action. Richelieu used Jean Bart's guns as replacements in 1943, but also didn't get into a surface action after that point.

By "duel", I meant fight against.

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Ah, Lorraine and Nevada got to shoot it out with Provence's guns after they had been salvaged and used as coastal batteries, sorry about reading the question backwards.

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33 minutes ago, SgtBeltfed said:

Ah, Lorraine and Nevada got to shoot it out with Provence's guns after they had been salvaged and used as coastal batteries, sorry about reading the question backwards.

Correct!

Now for the Final Jeopardy question.

This ship class was listed as Battleships in the 1938 edition of Jane's Fighting Ships.   Armed with 11" guns, they had only half the displacement of the Panzerschiffe Deutschland class Pocket Battleships at full load.

 

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The Sverige class, pretty much the smallest thing with battleship caliber guns ever guilt

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14 minutes ago, SgtBeltfed said:

The Sverige class, pretty much the smallest thing with battleship caliber guns ever guilt

I honestly thought that'd be a tougher question.

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