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Today we had the release of the French battleships, as well as missions to celebrate the event. what I don't understand is that most of these new marathon missions can only be completed with specific French ships, and the scenario battle is available to a highly exclusive set of ships. I don't have much time to play ships so I only have German cruisers and BB's. why is such an important event limited to only a segment of warship players? 

 

 

(and before anyone yells at me that I'm a novice at this game its because my main focus is on my tanks account)

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The  missions can be completed by repeating the generic tasks wth any T6+ ship in randoms.  

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8 minutes ago, Backslash said:

Today we had the release of the French battleships, as well as missions to celebrate the event. what I don't understand is that most of these new marathon missions can only be completed with specific French ships, and the scenario battle is available to a highly exclusive set of ships. I don't have much time to play ships so I only have German cruisers and BB's. why is such an important event limited to only a segment of warship players? 

 

 

(and before anyone yells at me that I'm a novice at this game its because my main focus is on my tanks account)

1. Wargaming wants you to buy an Aigle

2. French battleship missions mean you might have one, but even if you don't you can grind the campaign with other ships (you can repeat tasks, but you only get the rewards once). If you've been doing the Aigle marathon though, you should be able to get her before the French Gold Campaign ends.

3. The scenario only allowing allied cruisers and French Battleships is a bit of a thematic thing. You're escorting French battleships laden with gold to safe waters so the Germans don't get their hands on them. It is a bit restrictive though.

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2 minutes ago, LancerUlysses said:

The  missions can be completed by repeating the generic tasks wth any T6+ ship in randoms.  

And co-op, for some of them.

Personally, I’d rather be using Bearn.

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If I have a complaint about the current French campaign, it's this. 

One of the second group of tasks (all based on # of  ribbons earned) is annoying for this reason.  There are 4 tasks.  One is do-able with high tier French BBs.  Ok, probably best done with a secondary build BB to get a lot of secondary gun hits.  One is doable with the Aigle.  Also OK.  And the first one is doable by any ship (tier 5 and above).  And that's OK too.  It's the second one (any French ship, T5+) that's a bit annoying, because it really favors having the Aigle.  But there's already an Aigle only task.  Ok.... but it'd be a little less annoying if the ribbon count wasn't quite so high since you have to do it with either cruisers or BBs.    I have the Martel and De Grasse and the Dunkerque and Normandie, but it gets really boring being limited to 2 cruisers, and doing it with BBs is sooooooooooooo damned slow right now because of their low rate of ribbon earning combined with the long MM queue wait time due to the high number of BBs in the queue. 

I guess I'm just grumpy for having to play the same damned cruisers battle after battle when I'm not exactly that big a fan of them in the first place.

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If you use a tier VI+ French ship in Randoms you earn for any ship and French ships.  If you have a T8+ French BB, you also can get credit in 3 tasks.  With the Aigle you also get credit in 3 tasks, although with 5 guns it does not rack up the ribbons very quickly.  Unfortunately, it is a French ship themed mission intended to favor/increase French ship play.  I think it is a nice change to be able to do it in PvE and to also be able to use any ship in Randoms in addition to receiving an incentive to step outside of your comfort zone and get comfortable with French ships.

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Also bear in mind that the rewards for completing the campaign are special camo for certain French battleships; the Dunquerque, Gascogne (which is not out) and Richelieu maybe? Not sure on that one. If you don't have French ships the rewards won't help a lot. 

As far as only having German cruisers and BBs, may be time to think about diversifying. The last few events with Warplanes and Ships seem to be Axis and Allied related, so it might be an idea to be able to play either side to participate. Seems to be a trend

And I know planes is not ships, but that whole loot crate mission to get an early access before tech tree was lifted straight out of planes, and they are about to start what looks like a campaign tomorrow in planes which is lifted out of ships, so some synergies going on between the games

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3 hours ago, LancerUlysses said:

The  missions can be completed by repeating the generic tasks wth any T6+ ship in randoms.  

Until you realize you would need more than 10k ribbons just to finish the second mission. 

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16 minutes ago, NeoRussia said:

Until you realize you would need more than 10k ribbons just to finish the second mission. 

True, but that is only going to be the case for someone that doesn't have any French ship.

In a week, we will start to have folks finishing the Aigle marathon who will now have a Tier 6 ship.

We also had a Tier 6 French cruiser as a reward over the holidays.  Not going to help everyone, but that will be another group that will have ships available.

Finally, this is 1/3 of the requirements on a campaign that will run for 4 weeks.  1000 ribbons a day will take 10 days and still leave one with time for the third mission.  Also and again, some folks will start acquiring a free ship that they can use to accelerate their progress on this campaign.

 

I think WG has done well to provide many ways to get free stuff through effort.  As a business, they have also provided serious incentives to buy stuff that will also allow immediate benefit in reducing the effort required for the free stuff.

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9 minutes ago, YeOldeTraveller said:

Finally, this is 1/3 of the requirements on a campaign that will run for 4 weeks.  1000 ribbons a day will take 10 days and still leave one with time for the third mission.  Also and again, some folks will start acquiring a free ship that they can use to accelerate their progress on this campaign.

I think WG has done well to provide many ways to get free stuff through effort.  As a business, they have also provided serious incentives to buy stuff that will also allow immediate benefit in reducing the effort required for the free stuff.

1000 ribbons a day....... I play quite a bit every day, 1000 is lots of ribbons. It is doable, just a bit much unless you can do it in co-op. I want to play a game to have fun and relax, not work like a job.

IMHO the grind for "free" stuff is just a turn off. I find I don't spend money and I find that I am happiest when I earn my second crate for the day and log off. The more time I spend in game, the harder it is to enjoy it. As a business model I am unsure how good it is since I used to spend quite a bit on the game. With only 1% of players of FTP games spending money, it would seem they would want to keep us around instead of running us off out of boredom and exhaustion.

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Need a couple more days to complete the mission that may drop some BBs (work was hectic this week). Will there be another opportunity to get these ships?

 

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55 minutes ago, NeoRussia said:

Until you realize you would need more than 10k ribbons just to finish the second mission. 

 

25 minutes ago, YeOldeTraveller said:

True, but that is only going to be the case for someone that doesn't have any French ship.

In a week, we will start to have folks finishing the Aigle marathon who will now have a Tier 6 ship.

We also had a Tier 6 French cruiser as a reward over the holidays.  Not going to help everyone, but that will be another group that will have ships available.

Finally, this is 1/3 of the requirements on a campaign that will run for 4 weeks.  1000 ribbons a day will take 10 days and still leave one with time for the third mission.  Also and again, some folks will start acquiring a free ship that they can use to accelerate their progress on this campaign.

 

I think WG has done well to provide many ways to get free stuff through effort.  As a business, they have also provided serious incentives to buy stuff that will also allow immediate benefit in reducing the effort required for the free stuff.

 

You only need to earn 4,500 total if you use a T6+ French ship. Since French cruisers have been out a while and you can earn Aigle and get 3 stars with her, getting the ribbons, especially in PvE for the tasks, would not be hard in the 4 weeks the campaign runs.

 

1 minute ago, TheGirlFromIpanema said:

Need a couple more days to complete the mission that may drop some BBs (work was hectic this week). Will there be another opportunity to get these ships?

 

Now that the French BBs are out, you can grind them as well.

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the galis is perfect for the second ribbon mission, that's what i'm using. note it has the highest rof for french ca thus is most efficient. obviously running task 1 and 2 with the galis is the most efficient way because playing 1 ship accomplishes both tasks.

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2 hours ago, TheGirlFromIpanema said:

Need a couple more days to complete the mission that may drop some BBs (work was hectic this week). Will there be another opportunity to get these ships?

Well they are in the tech tree now, I am guessing you mean to get a battleship mission from the crates.  There was a thread asking this, Wargaming hasn't responded but one person said that he got a mission after the ships hit the tech tree. I am going to guess that as long as the French crates keep dropping, there is a chance you can get a mission from them. Hope that is helpful.

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secondary build french battleship.  I just did like....5 or 6 co-op richelieu battles to bag mine.

 

If you want to do the ribbons quickest justfarm bots in co-op with either the aigle french CLS or french bbs. There are alot of options to complete that req fairly quickly.

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Once you earn the Aigle, take it into co-op. You can keep that gun sizzling in co-op and rack up ribbons for task 2 and 3 at the same time.  Mix in something like a tier 5 Omaha or tier 6 Cleveland in Random to get task 1 finished.  

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3 hours ago, Taylor3006 said:

IMHO the grind for "free" stuff is just a turn off. I find I don't spend money and I find that I am happiest when I earn my second crate for the day and log off. The more time I spend in game, the harder it is to enjoy it.

Same here.  Add in that some of these tasks are easier if you were blessed by RNGesus with a French BB mission out of one of the crates (I still have not, my success with crates is abysmal) and this seems more like work.  Not looking forward to grinding a new BB line.

One thing I did do.  There is a YouTuber doing a promo for his channel (maybe it's Moe Lykit IIRC).  I think he's only now reached 250 subs.  Contest is to get max number of citadels over 5 battles playing the Black Swan in PvE.  So just for grins I played a couple battles in the Swan last night.  It was really fun.  I won't enter his contest.  But just the idea of going back to where we all started and playing without having to accomplish much of anything was kind of refreshing. 

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13 minutes ago, ZARDOZ_II said:

One thing I did do.  There is a YouTuber doing a promo for his channel (maybe it's Moe Lykit IIRC).  I think he's only now reached 250 subs.  Contest is to get max number of citadels over 5 battles playing the Black Swan in PvE.  So just for grins I played a couple battles in the Swan last night.  It was really fun.  I won't enter his contest.  But just the idea of going back to where we all started and playing without having to accomplish much of anything was kind of refreshing. 

That is a cool idea for a contest. Tier ones are pretty susceptible to citadels even by HE, the Black Swan is just evil! You should enter, sounds like fun.

When I play for my own amusement I play my tier 2 - 4 premiums with my 19 point captains in PvE. I justify my fun by saying it banks elite xp but honestly I do it because it makes me laugh. The low tier gunboats, the USN St Louis in particular, is when I fell in love with the game. Course as with all love affairs my feelings have dimmed over time but when I want to rekindle some warmth, I break out my gunbotes and blast bots until I feel dirty!

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17 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

That is a cool idea for a contest. Tier ones are pretty susceptible to citadels even by HE, the Black Swan is just evil! You should enter, sounds like fun.

I just thought I'd try the Evil Swan.  Like he said in the video, it's going back to basics without all the gimmicks.  I probably won't enter, leave that for someone who needs it more than I.  I just thought the idea of a stripped down low stress mindless blasting was a good idea for stress relief.  And if I enter the contest, I'll feel like I have to 'win' and will focus on that rather than the enjoyment.  

And the Swan just has a basic 0 point captain.  I'm not evil enough to go clubbing in T1 with a skilled captain.  That's just outright seal clubbing.

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22 minutes ago, ZARDOZ_II said:

I just thought I'd try the Evil Swan.  Like he said in the video, it's going back to basics without all the gimmicks.  I probably won't enter, leave that for someone who needs it more than I.  I just thought the idea of a stripped down low stress mindless blasting was a good idea for stress relief.  And if I enter the contest, I'll feel like I have to 'win' and will focus on that rather than the enjoyment.  

And the Swan just has a basic 0 point captain.  I'm not evil enough to go clubbing in T1 with a skilled captain.  That's just outright seal clubbing.

The contest is in PvE (Co-op), most likely to prevent seal clubbing. Although, I hear there is a group that only plays T1 that is pretty serious about it, so I don't know if it would be seal clubbing if you got into one of their battles.

So, put in a 19pt captain. The bots have been perma-chat banned, so they can't spew hate for clubbing them. :Smile_teethhappy:

 

Filty little buggers the bots. Always cursing in chat. That is why they got perma-banned on chat and the forum. Man, the things that they used to say. Made me embarrassed to translate the 1's and 0's. :Smile_teethhappy:

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7 hours ago, Destroyer_Suzukaze said:

Also bear in mind that the rewards for completing the campaign are special camo for certain French battleships; the Dunquerque, Gascogne (which is not out) and Richelieu maybe? Not sure on that one. If you don't have French ships the rewards won't help a lot. 

As far as only having German cruisers and BBs, may be time to think about diversifying. The last few events with Warplanes and Ships seem to be Axis and Allied related, so it might be an idea to be able to play either side to participate. Seems to be a trend

And I know planes is not ships, but that whole loot crate mission to get an early access before tech tree was lifted straight out of planes, and they are about to start what looks like a campaign tomorrow in planes which is lifted out of ships, so some synergies going on between the games

Just as a note for anyone, I have the Gascogne available for purchase as of right now. 

(Likely this happened between this post and now, just wanted to point it out if anyone hadn't noticed.)

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9 hours ago, Crucis said:

I guess I'm just grumpy for having to play the same damned cruisers battle after battle when I'm not exactly that big a fan of them in the first place.

Same situation here.   Trying to look at the bright side - I'm getting to know my Saint-Louis, and grinding her to Henri.   Getting about 100 ribbons per match.    Sometimes more.    But 3600 ribbons to grind - that's a bit of a haul (doing mission 1 and 2 twice).    

But hey, there's Henri at the end of the grind!

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6 hours ago, DiddleDum said:

Same situation here.   Trying to look at the bright side - I'm getting to know my Saint-Louis, and grinding her to Henri.   Getting about 100 ribbons per match.    Sometimes more.    But 3600 ribbons to grind - that's a bit of a haul (doing mission 1 and 2 twice).    

But hey, there's Henri at the end of the grind!

I know, but I just don't like playing the same ship battle after battle ad infinitum.  It gets boring after playing it twice in a  row.

Also, I could play my De Grasse in coop for some easier battles, but the down side to that is that the first task (the one where you can use any tier 5+ ship to gather the ribbons) is random only, while the second task is random or coop.  So I don't particularly like playing my French ships in coop and not being able to count the ribbons earned towards both tasks 1 and 2.

One thing I have learned though from playing my De Grasse more is if you're in a cruiser stay as far away from the Lyon as possible.  As in, try to be on the other side of the damned map from it!   When a Lyon decides to shoot at you, it seems almost impossible to avoid all 16 of those shells.  I think that twice in about 2-3 battles, I've lost about 90% of my De Grasse's health to a Lyon in a single volley.  There's just no winning that kind of duel, at least in a De Grasse.

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13 hours ago, Crucis said:

I know, but I just don't like playing the same ship battle after battle ad infinitum.  It gets boring after playing it twice in a  row.

This is the first time in a very long time, I have played any ship longer than to get a first win bonus and move on. I did the Atago a long while back, grinding up some IJN captains but not since. I play a ship, get the first win, and move along. With this event it is play all the French ships to get the bonus, then grind Aigle and it is not fun. I suppose if I had better gun traverse speed (and yes I have a captain with EM people) it would be interesting to play. Nothing worse to see is a battleship's guns training on you faster than your guns can train on them..... 

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On 3/3/2018 at 3:36 AM, Taylor3006 said:

This is the first time in a very long time, I have played any ship longer than to get a first win bonus and move on. I did the Atago a long while back, grinding up some IJN captains but not since. I play a ship, get the first win, and move along. With this event it is play all the French ships to get the bonus, then grind Aigle and it is not fun. I suppose if I had better gun traverse speed (and yes I have a captain with EM people) it would be interesting to play. Nothing worse to see is a battleship's guns training on you faster than your guns can train on them..... 

Yeah switching to the Richy after playing the Aigle I remember thinking, 'Man, these guns turn about the same as the Aigle's'

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