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A little disappointed with Lyon so far.

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I guess I was expecting bigger things.   However, with the all battleships all the time queues right now, it might not be fair to judge her to harshly.  So I'm keeping my mind open.  That said, at this moment I think I actually prefer Normandie.

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I find it is best shooting at cruisers at medium range. You get a good spread of shells that almost guarantee a couple pens even if you are a bad shot and get some weird citadels with the long fused AP.

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Just going to copy my thoughts from the Alsace thread:

I don't like mine, either... and I have actually had some good games in the thing.

Problems with the Lyon:

I could probably name more things, but that's sufficient. Look, I won't deny it's good, I'm just saying - this was not a ship designed with me in mind. That's all.

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Lyon is amazing against cruisers. Part of the problem likely is the BB population has exploded for the French release, so there aren't as many cruisers around as usual.

Lyon can do well against broadside BBs. Against angled BBs it struggles.

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Just now, madmikey77 said:

Lyon is amazing against cruisers. Part of the problem likely is the BB population has exploded for the French release, so there aren't as many cruisers around as usual.

Lyon can do well against broadside BBs. Against angled BBs it struggles.

True, I really like my Lyon. I got her through the missions and there wasn't only BBs playing when I unlocked completed her mission. Very fun ship.

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4 minutes ago, madmikey77 said:

Lyon is amazing against cruisers. Part of the problem likely is the BB population has exploded for the French release, so there aren't as many cruisers around as usual.

Lyon can do well against broadside BBs. Against angled BBs it struggles.

You should have seen the BB explosion when the germans Bb's were introduced. It was amazing.

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I agree with Lutzow here. Lyon looks like a lot of fun, but i feel like she was put in because "lol sixteen guns" rather than for any good reason. It's the first ship i see myself free xping over, because she really holds zero interest to me, and Richelieu is just right there....

Strasbourg, however, I'd play the crap out of :)

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3 minutes ago, madmikey77 said:

Lyon is amazing against cruisers. Part of the problem likely is the BB population has exploded for the French release, so there aren't as many cruisers around as usual.

Lyon can do well against broadside BBs. Against angled BBs it struggles.

^This. Also Lyon suffers more than Normandie does because the 16" guns which are prevalent on its tier can go through her armor like butter. Normandie mostly faces 14" and some 15". None of the French BBs are well-armored until you get to Richelieu. The guns have the same issue. Armor is getting better with tier but the French guns don't jump up until Richelieu. Normandie faces fewer ships that can laugh at her guns than Lyon does. I also noticed that Normandie is easier to play than Lyon. 

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2 minutes ago, Crispinater said:

I agree with Lutzow here. Lyon looks like a lot of fun, but i feel like she was put in because "lol sixteen guns" rather than for any good reason. It's the first ship i see myself free xping over, because she really holds zero interest to me, and Richelieu is just right there....

Strasbourg, however, I'd play the crap out of :)

If you have Dunkerque you basically have Strasbourg. Strasbourg's extra armor isn't enough to survive against the 16inchers on T7 much better than Dunkerque's is. Other than that it's the same ship. 

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I'm doing fine in my Lyon. There's absolutely nothing wrong with her

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lyon is great for grinding in  operation.      almost done with stock grind on  it. 

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I can say that I had a terrible time trying to sink a Lyon.  We lost our BB then two Cruisers and me in the Sims chasing a running away Lyon.  It just would not sink!  The Cruisers tried AP AE and I was spamming all of Sims guns with HE by running off the Lyons beam. 

Too funny ! 

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I had it in mind from the beginning of the Vive la France event/mission to put the reward captain Jacques-Jean Honoré in the Lyon to get enhanced Expert Gunner and Adrenaline effects. Perhaps it's confirmation bias at work but I've found Lyon to be very effective. I really like Normandie as well but still have not meshed with the RIchelieu. As a collector, even if Lyon was so-so I would keep her for her uniqueness and, well, 16 guns...

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Lyon is a great, quirky ship.

I found that closing to range and brawling with her was most effective for utilising her armament. Playing like a USN DD and doing island ambushes with 16 guns is very fun if you can pull it off, otherwise anything past medium range is disappointment, and at medium range she'll take awhile but she will bring numbers like any other.

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I generally had a decent overall impression of the French BBs playing the Normandie and Richelieu but after playing Alsace last night with her shotguns, any enthusiasm I had for the French line has kind of went out the window.   Completely regret spending 20 million on the Alsace last night to buy and outfit it with modules.   Should have saved my Silver for the RN line I am currently grinding. 

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Your problem is that your prey has migrated for the season.  Wait a few months for the cruiser population to return and I'm pretty sure she'll be more user-friendly, unless the nerf bat makes an appearance. 

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I think Lyon, like the other smaller gun armed T7's rewards dynamic ammunition selection well. With a 30s reload this can be frustrating, but it does leave tools in your kit.

 

Yes, she can't overmatch like the 15 or 16in armed ships, but she can drop 16 barrels of HE into the face of a battleship if it angles. That's pretty much as many fires per broadside as KGV, though with lower accuracy.

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39 minutes ago, KonigstigerVII said:

Nothing to complain about from this guy.

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Ditto. 

Took Lyon out for her maiden voyage this morning and deleted a full health Algerie and Takao within the first 5 minutes of the match.  Small sample size, but that 16 gun broadside is just murder to foolish cruisers.

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33 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

How is Lyon in scenarios?

I just tried it, thank goodness we had 3 Atlanta's and two Pensacola's....yep Pensacola. 5 star, but 5th of 6th in xp, No kills, 1 friggin Citadel. Only ship I outperformed was another Frenchie, the Algerie. The guns suck, and almost all ships come at you in that odd angle where you get 950 damage and by the time you have a quality shot the Atlanta's have killed him.

Cannot come up with one positive so far for any of the 3 French BB's I've played.

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4 minutes ago, Sweetsie said:

I just tried it, thank goodness we had 3 Atlanta's and two Pensacola's....yep Pensacola. 5 star, but 5th of 6th in xp, No kills, 1 friggin Citadel. Only ship I outperformed was another Frenchie, the Algerie. The guns suck, and almost all ships come at you in that odd angle where you get 950 damage and by the time you have a quality shot the Atlanta's have killed him.

Cannot come up with one positive so far for any of the 3 French BB's I've played.

Use HE.

I got a Kraken in a Random yesterday using almost all HE.

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7 minutes ago, Sweetsie said:

I just tried it, thank goodness we had 3 Atlanta's and two Pensacola's....yep Pensacola. 5 star, but 5th of 6th in xp, No kills, 1 friggin Citadel. Only ship I outperformed was another Frenchie, the Algerie. The guns suck, and almost all ships come at you in that odd angle where you get 950 damage and by the time you have a quality shot the Atlanta's have killed him.

Cannot come up with one positive so far for any of the 3 French BB's I've played.

Thanks I won't waste the free XP to get it sooner in that case.

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What? Lyon is epic. I got her from the crates and I consistently do well with her and is my favorite t7 BB. She devastates practically everything dds, cruisers and Battleships that show too much side (easy 16-20k hits) and if they angle shoot HE or aim for superstructure. 35 lyon games of pure fun 66%wr. I'm not sure we are playing the same ship.Screenshot_2018-03-01-10-29-04-1.pngScreenshot_2018-03-01-10-29-23-1.png

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