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Just did the Operation Hermès and found it challenging yet delightful. I used Richelieu and stayed close to the ship we were escorting. Big thing you want to do is kill that scout fighter squadron since as somebody on our team that knew the Operation said Killing that scout fighter makes the operation easier ( not  sure I want to know what happens if the scout lives lol). Main thing you want to do is stay with the escort group since if you decide to yolo charge a distant enemy or something there is likely 0% chance of you living through doing that.

But thankfully the skill requirements for the Operation are not impossible as long as ships stay in the group and preferably strung out a little to provide front, middle, and rear arcs of AA and gun fire. ( like those teams doing those Lemming Trains to a base in Randoms, only this time it’s actually helpful to do it. Lol knew they must have been training for something all these months and now we know what they were thinking.)

I managed to complete all Fire stars on the Operation, although the part that scared me the most was right near the end when the enemy Graf Spee passed right by my port side within 3km and I was just thinking please don’t have Torps loaded, please don’t have Torps loaded. Thankfully it did not have them loaded and seemed more interested in the ship behind me, now the Nuremberg off my Starboard had Torps, But was able to dodge those.

The storm Map was awesome and well done and thankfully did not cash the game crash glitch so Wargaming must have found what caused that glitch in couple other ops and fixed it this time.

All in all it’s a lot of fun and the 300 Doubloons among other rewards is good as well lol.

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7 minutes ago, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

Just did the Operation Hermès and found it challenging yet delightful.

Thanks, being stuck at work today I have been wondering about it. And the French BBs, etc.:Smile_medal:

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16 minutes ago, Chaos_EN2 said:

Thanks, being stuck at work today I have been wondering about it. And the French BBs, etc.:Smile_medal:

At least your work lets you cruise the forums, kind of like mine but mine is 24/7 and only pays room and board.

Thanks for the info AT.

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Agreed, I like this Operation. Ran the Lyon first ( 96 AA ) and shot down 90 aircraft and won with 3 stars. Second run got 5 Stars.

 

Good times!  :cap_rambo:

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Just now, Sovereigndawg said:

At least your work lets you cruise the forums, kind of like mine but mine is 24/7 and only pays room and board.

Yeah I understand a little, I helped take care of my Mom when she got cancer. But you always will have my respect for what you do for your Aunt.

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27 minutes ago, Admiral_Thrawn_1 said:

Just did the Operation Hermès and found it challenging yet delightful

:cap_rambo:  <GG>

My experiences too.  WoWS guys sure know how to make a good scenario.  Does the live version require divisions now?

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Stick together, bring your dfaa and high dpm ships, run  with the storm though most of it.

ran with Atlanta two times, 3 star the first time, 5 stars the second time.

lots of enemy planes and dds killed.

 

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7 minutes ago, iDuckman said:

:cap_rambo:  <GG>

My experiences too.  WoWS guys sure know how to make a good scenario.  Does the live version require divisions now?

You can do it solo..

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Atlanta/Flint AA > Pensacola/Indianapolis in terms of AA due to range with AFT (modules can further amplify this but aren't really necessary)

German DD torpedo spam is the biggest threat you have

Enemy CV is a Graf Zepplin running 2/0/3 with the original "long drop" dive bombs

BB you are escorting will stop with a 400hp/s heal about halfway through

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Rough Estimates based off of memory:

Wave 1 : Nurnberg + 2 DDs (Either side at operation start)

Wave 2 : Yorck + 2 DDs (Opposite side of Wave 1)

Wave 3 : Bismarck, Gneisenau, Scharnhorst, Tirpitz (Spawns after wave 2 on the position Wave 2 came in on)

- BB Stops to heal -

Wave 4 : Bayern + 3 DDs from NE corner (They will torp wall hardcore)

Wave 5 : Edinburgh and Graf Spee from NW (Comes in at same time as wave 4, but usually cant see you to shoot)

Wave 6 : Graf Spee, 4 DDs, Graf Zepplin (NW corner around B3 and will run away at 1/2ish speed)

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*Air Waves consist entirely of T1 planes and are easily shot down. However, a massive air assault will commence with Wave 6 supported by the Graf Zepplin. Ensure your AA ships survive.

**Enemy CAs and CLs will not give you easy broadsides.

***Enemy DDs will spam torpedoes at their hearts content

****Stay close to the escort ship. Her heal after Wave 3 will not last long.

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Recommended Ships : Atlanta, Flint, Fiji, Belfast, Richelieu

(Pensacola has difficulty driving off DD rushes with her 15s reload and the Lyon has to present broadside to fire her 16 guns which makes her likely to die to torpedo wall spam or a broadside from Wave 3.  This isn't to say that you shouldn't use these ships, just expect some difficulty with it.)

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7 minutes ago, iDuckman said:

:cap_rambo:  <GG>

My experiences too.  WoWS guys sure know how to make a good scenario.  Does the live version require divisions now?

No if it is the current Operation of the week you simply select the Operation battle mode, select the appropriate ship, then hit battle.

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Other thing is I heard somebody say the patterns of enemy ships varies some what each time. They like giving you some hard waves, like Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau and Scharnhorst were in middle wave for me. Oh and the DDs often hunted in wolf packs. There was a place where Ai ships announced it was time to slow down and repair so that was helpful. But as one quick discussion pointed out part way though, when someone said “ it was easy op seems like we are past most of it” somebody else said “ it’s not over yet, hard part is coming” lol how right they were lol grand finale was a worthy one.

Considering doing the Op again at least once or twice not only to help those who have not done it yet, but also because I had so much fun fighting the enemy in that thunderstorm. Also had some of that weather outside so it was certainly immersive experience for me lol.

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Sometimes the BB group will spawn behind you, and IIRC they might spawn early.  (I think I only saw this2 couple times.)

Also seems that the map varied, but that could have been a change made between PTs.

Planes off GZ include Stukas with a new attack sound effect.

I experimented with Hydro instead of DF.  I found it very useful.  Will probably outfit Pensie that way again.  After the heal rush her ahead to get between the gold and the DD squadron.

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Got my 5 stars 2nd time through and no doubt, you should kill the dd's as quickly as possible to avoid the torp spam and the cv asap.  The operations are quite fun and not really too difficult.   The new lightning and thunderstorms are pretty cool.  Well done WG!

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0 for 3...teams doing well but Riche keeps getting killed by the last 2 waves up in that final corner. 

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Was lucky to get a team with 2 player driven Richelieus, so 5 stars was easy from the get go. The BB wave (Bismarck, Tirpitz, Gneisenau) was surprisingly easy to deal with. That being said, the most dangerous part I think is near the end when the final wave of DDs spawns. Most of them are high tier and can wreck the Rouan pretty quick.

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Anyone playing Lyon, the living shotgun?

 

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5 hours ago, BullpupWOT said:

0 for 3...teams doing well but Riche keeps getting killed by the last 2 waves up in that final corner. 

Trick my team used was having our 2 Richelieu BBS be body guards for the ship we were escorting also had at least 1 or 2 CAs ahead or us and rest followed, but the formation was fluid with the CAs changing  positions depending on what was happening. You kind of have to anticipate what the threat that will kill your gold ship and kill that instantly.

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Got 5 stars second time I played (used the Lyon). First time in with Atlanta most of the team hadn't played, we did pretty good but still a fail. The beginning is very easy, then you get a heal. Then it gets hard just like the original Newport. Pretty standard fare, make it tougher at the end. It was ok, not particularly challenging or difficult and not really all that interesting. The low light and the new thunderstorm effects just makes it tough for me to see what is going on but I have crappy eyesight. IMHO the replay value is nil unless you just like that sort of thing, get your 5 stars and move on. The red AI is fairly standard stuff, the friendly AI is stupid. They sit on top of each other unable to maneuver and eat torps until they are dead. Near the end when the red DDs spawn fairly close, the friendly bot cruisers are useless and you will lose most of the AI ships at that time including your flagship which makes it all a fail (happened my first match).  The enemy planes are easy kills, you hardly need to be spec'd for AA and you will slaughter them. The Graf Zep's planes are a bit tougher I think but not by much. My Lyon is not AA maxed but was flying that +10% AA flag and still was managing lots of plane kills. The OP is not a fail, just more of the same in a low light setting is all. 

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I'm having trouble getting my team to kill the aircraft carrier, though I'm constantly getting 4 stars (except for once). When the gold ship gets near the exit point they tend to ignore the objectives. I guess in the next game I'll have to try to anticipate where it's going to spawn and head there myself.

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Love the Hermes operation.  Especially like how the weather is rendered and that the seas pick up when you're in it.  Looks great.  Was at first worried it was going to be like the stupid "cyclones" in PvP - sun is still out, perfect visibility, just a few drops, but you can't see a boat in the water until you're right up on it.  Like, what's the point then?

Should put this new weather system in PvP, just make it bigger and have it move straight across the map in a random direction when it does arrive.

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Thanks OP - 1st time through got 5 stars, 180K damage and 6 kills in my Fiji.

Good team seemed to follow your advice and stuck together.  That seems to be the key.

Storm waves looked awesome.  I managed to kill the enemy CV which was a key, so as long as you take charge of kills like that you're well on your way.

If they offered more rewards for playing these scenarios I'd play them more, but after 5 stars I just really lose interest in the repetitive nature of it, even though it's so well done.

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Did it once with Lyon using a less than ideal pts captain (transferred the original captain to Alsace).

 

AA Build which turned out to be important because none of the numerous Atlanta & Belfasts were any good with AA on the team.  There was an AA Flint and he did some what I thought were strange positions, but he shot down tons of planes.

 

Lyon was kind of sluggish for this though, Richelieu would be better.  I didn't have enough pts for this replacement captain to have EM, which was a bit irritating with how targets switch left and right sides, and I had to do maneuvering to throw off aiming.

 

Cruisers work wonders in this but they had problems with staying power.  The last 2 ships of the team were me and the Flint that was far south, and we were at the end where Graf Zeppelin needed to be sunk and we had a bunch of ships around me (the only player in the area) and the ships I were escorting.  It literally took my Lyon's last second salvo to sink GZ for us to get 5 stars before the mission ended.

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12 minutes ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Did it once with Lyon using a less than ideal pts captain (transferred the original captain to Alsace).

 

AA Build which turned out to be important because none of the numerous Atlanta & Belfasts were any good with AA on the team.  There was an AA Flint and he did some what I thought were strange positions, but he shot down tons of planes.

 

Lyon was kind of sluggish for this though, Richelieu would be better.  I didn't have enough pts for this replacement captain to have EM, which was a bit irritating with how targets switch left and right sides, and I had to do maneuvering to throw off aiming.

 

Cruisers work wonders in this but they had problems with staying power.  The last 2 ships of the team were me and the Flint that was far south, and we were at the end where Graf Zeppelin needed to be sunk and we had a bunch of ships around me (the only player in the area) and the ships I were escorting.  It literally took my Lyon's last second salvo to sink GZ for us to get 5 stars before the mission ended.

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Yeah I knew Richelieu would be the best choice before even doing the Op, used Catapult fighter and the 10 point Unique French Captain with PM, EM, AR, and BFT. I got through with few aircraft or ship kills, but sure racked up the damage lol.

Although frankly I would rather have been on the enemy team trying to raid the convoy using my Bismarck or Gneisenau since I use German ships a lot, also use IJN a lot as well.

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1 hour ago, Snargfargle said:

I'm having trouble getting my team to kill the aircraft carrier, though I'm constantly getting 4 stars (except for once). When the gold ship gets near the exit point they tend to ignore the objectives. I guess in the next game I'll have to try to anticipate where it's going to spawn and head there myself.

 

Depending on what you're in, after the heal head for the exit point at speed.  A cruiser with Hydro can really help the others with the torp soup.  Then either kill or blow past the wall of DDs and head toward the CV.  If most of your team survives you then your spotting of the CV will let them kill it (and the cruisers).  It's kinda risky for you while good for the team.

Alternatively, BBs could head outside the long islands straight toward the CV.  Haven't tried that.

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