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Dev Blog Update- Looks like USN cruiser split is about to start testing

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TL;DR - 

 

The new tier VI Pensacola is going into testing, but using the placeholder name of Salt Lake City, her sister (and the actual ship our Pensacola is modeled off of, fun fact).

The above stats appear to be stock.

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6 minutes ago, Phoenix_jz said:

TL;DR - 

 

The new tier VI Pensacola is going into testing, but using the placeholder name of Salt Lake City, her sister (and the actual ship our Pensacola is modeled off of, fun fact).

The above stats appear to be stock.

Gib line split already!

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1 minute ago, renegadestatuz said:

Gib line split already!

I swear, I'm totally not drooling over a picture of Helena right now...

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Finally. Now we can dispense freedom properly at all tiers.

 

Would be great if they released the line for Memorial day or July 4th.

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Yep, looking forward to this one.

 

Askew of topic; since when are ships' whistles in the stacks?  I understand they probably did it because of sprite generation and such, but... no.  Please, it would be cool if they were installed in the actual locations (which are all well marked on every naval blueprint I've ever seen) but this is worth doing right if at all.

-R

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If they make the Pensacola worse to down tier her I want my money back on my Premium camo.

She wasn't good enough to be a Tier 7, so nerfing her to be a Tier 6 is stupid.

And yes, that makes her better than the Aoba, the other Tier 6 CA. However, since the Aoba is more or less the worst Tier 6 Cruiser, I'm not really sure why we're asking the Pensacola to be comparable. That's like asking the doctor to break your other foot instead of fixing the one you came to see him about.

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2 minutes ago, Madwolf05 said:

If they make the Pensacola worse to down tier her I want my money back on my Premium camo.

She wasn't good enough to be a Tier 7, so nerfing her to be a Tier 6 is stupid.

And yes, that makes her better than the Aoba, the other Tier 6 CA. However, since the Aoba is more or less the worst Tier 6 Cruiser, I'm not really sure why we're asking the Pensacola to be comparable. That's like asking the doctor to break your other foot instead of fixing the one you came to see him about.

I like the Pepsi....it's a high skill ship that does well if used properly...and fun.  Not a good beginner ship.   The Pepsi is my goto ship if I need to accomplish a Citadel mission.

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Just now, CaptainKaitoGhost said:

How are her current stats compared to these tier 6 stats?

As of now, from what we can see (devblog doesn't show a lot of stats)...

 

This tier VI version of her appears to be current A-hull Pensacola, minus 700 health, and that's basically it.

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2 minutes ago, Madwolf05 said:

[...] the Aoba is more or less the worst Tier 6 Cruiser [...]

I understand that this is a common sentiment, but it's one I just don't get.  I loved the Aoba, significantly more than Myoko in fact.  For whatever reason her guns worked with my play stile and the torpedoes that were actually useful made her a great ship to play.

That said, I'm not rushing back to play her and don't even own her at the moment.  The only Tier VI I enjoy more is probably the Graf Spee.  Guess that makes me weird.

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1 minute ago, Phoenix_jz said:

As of now, from what we can see (devblog doesn't show a lot of stats)...

 

This tier VI version of her appears to be current A-hull Pensacola, minus 700 health, and that's basically it.

Just remember that what they show on the dev blog is the stock hull. So she will still have upgrades and a top hull.

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1 minute ago, Phoenix_jz said:

As of now, from what we can see (devblog doesn't show a lot of stats)...

 

This tier VI version of her appears to be current A-hull Pensacola, minus 700 health, and that's basically it.

So, less health, worse AA, and slower turret traverse.

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1 minute ago, CaptainKaitoGhost said:

How are her current stats compared to these tier 6 stats?

They're her Class A Hull stats from when you first get the ship.

You essentially are losing a module slot, Rudder Shift, Concealment, AA, and HP im exchange for being a Tier lower but largely seeing the same matchmaking. Tier 7 already saw 5s. 6s can't see 4s because of protected MM, and Tier 9s were very rare at Tier 7 for her.

So right now the Pensacola looks objectively worse than her already poor Tier 7 showing.

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23 minutes ago, Phoenix_jz said:

I swear, I'm totally not drooling over a picture of Helena right now...

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2 minutes ago, Madwolf05 said:

They're her Class A Hull stats from when you first get the ship.

You essentially are losing a module slot, Rudder Shift, Concealment, AA, and HP im exchange for being a Tier lower but largely seeing the same matchmaking. Tier 7 already saw 5s. 6s can't see 4s because of protected MM, and Tier 9s were very rare at Tier 7 for her.

So right now the Pensacola looks objectively worse than her already poor Tier 7 showing.

Just remember she will have upgrades and a top hull as well. This is stock hull at tier 6 being shown. We don’t know yet what her upgraded stats will look like.

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3 minutes ago, Mister_Rawr said:

I understand that this is a common sentiment, but it's one I just don't get.  I loved the Aoba, significantly more than Myoko in fact.  For whatever reason her guns worked with my play stile and the torpedoes that were actually useful made her a great ship to play.

That said, I'm not rushing back to play her and don't even own her at the moment.  The only Tier VI I enjoy more is probably the Graf Spee.  Guess that makes me weird.

-R

But the Aoba is still objectively a bad ship, as is Pensacola. I loved both and have pretty damn good results in them, but you gotta look at what they're capable of too. They just don't compare to other Cruisers they face at a high level of play. This should be fixed, and moving an unchanged Pensacola to Tier 6 was step 1 and should be tested that way.

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1 minute ago, renegadestatuz said:

Just remember she will have upgrades and a top hull as well. This is stock hull at tier 6 being shown. We don’t know yet what her upgraded stats will look like.

It doesn't say it's stock anywhere.

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That literal BB-level turret traverse is going to be very painful.

 

Edit- Never mind, didn't realize stock Pensa currently had a 45s traverse as well.

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Just now, Madwolf05 said:

It doesn't say it's stock anywhere.

Upcoming tech tree ships on the dev blog are always shown in stock hull along with their heir stock hull stats. @Doomlock

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6 minutes ago, Madwolf05 said:

They're her Class A Hull stats from when you first get the ship.

You essentially are losing a module slot, Rudder Shift, Concealment, AA, and HP im exchange for being a Tier lower but largely seeing the same matchmaking. Tier 7 already saw 5s. 6s can't see 4s because of protected MM, and Tier 9s were very rare at Tier 7 for her.

So right now the Pensacola looks objectively worse than her already poor Tier 7 showing.

The listed / revealed stats still potentially could be her "stock" version stats released to the public. Upgrades could be under NDAs for the Testers. 

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Penicola goes back on the trash heap after the switch then....Didn't like it at tier 7, will like it less at tier 6. Head to head I'll take the Buddy, De Grasse, and Leander hands down.

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Helena may actually make me want to open the client again. I took care of buying all the necessary ships and blanking all of my captains back in December, mite be cool.

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