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......to forget about the real CB-1 Alaska and make the alternate paper version of it.  Oh, what could have been.

- CA2-D design of Alaska-class Large Cruiser
(CA2 is Alaska project cruiser, meanwhile CA1 is Baltimore project cruiser)

- compare with real ship
displacement 38700t normal (real Alaska is 29800t normal)
length 263.13m (246.43m)
beam 31.85m (28m)
engine power 212000shp (153000shp)
maximum speed 34kn (33kn)
armament:
4 x 3 - 12"/50 Mark 8 (3 x 3 - 12"/50 Mark 8 )
8 x 2 - 5"/38 Mark 32 (6 x 2 - 5"/38 Mark 32)
armor:
belt 330mm (230mm)
deck 127mm (102mm)

- this design are too light to be a powerful battleship and too heavy to be a efficiency cruiser killer, so it wasn't chosen

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"Proposed Heavy Cruiser - CA2-D"

Preliminary design plan prepared for the General Board as part of the process leading to the Alaska class (CB1-6) large cruiser design.
This plan, dated 18 January 1940 and representing the largest size cruiser studied at this time, is for a ship of 38,700 tons standard displacement, with a main battery of twelve 12"/50 guns, a secondary battery of sixteen 5"/38 guns and a 212,000 horsepower powerplant for a speed of 33.5 knots. Ship's dimensions are: waterline length 850'; waterline beam 99'; maximum beam 104.5'; draft 31.5'. Anti-torpedo side protection, with four internal bulkheads, is shown in the hull section drawing at the lower left.
Scale of the original plan and elevation drawings is 1/32" = 1'. Scale of the hull section drawing is 1/16" = 1'.

The original plan is in the 1939-1944 "Spring Styles Book" held by the Naval Historical Center.
 

 

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What would it be called though? Virgin Islands? Philippines? Samoa? Puerto Rico? Panama? One of the Guano Island chains (LOL if so)? 

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21 minutes ago, YamatoA150 said:

What would it be called though? Virgin Islands? Philippines? Samoa? Puerto Rico? Panama? One of the Guano Island chains (LOL if so)? 

 

Vote now on your phones.

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22 minutes ago, YamatoA150 said:

What would it be called though? Virgin Islands? Philippines? Samoa? Puerto Rico? Panama? One of the Guano Island chains (LOL if so)? 

Hawaii 

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1 minute ago, ZachOneX1 said:

Hawaii 

Fair enough. I keep forgetting it was still a territory up until the cold war era.

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Just now, YamatoA150 said:

Fair enough. I keep forgetting it was still a territory up until the cold war era.

and Hawaii was an actual Alaska Class Cruiser however it was sold for scrap only 4 years after it was launched 

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Since it is an alternative to the real USS Alaska....how about an alternative name for Alaska

Alyeska

Alyeska is an archaic spelling of the Aleut word Alaska meaning "mainland", "great country", or "great land". The American state of Alaska derives its name from this word. Alyeska is related to the word Unalaska from the same root. Alyeska, in loose translation, also means "the object towards which the action of the sea is directed," or "that which the seas breaks against."
 
USS Alyeska

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59 minutes ago, iDuckman said:

Just what we need.  More paper ships.

 

At least it's not a fictional one, made up out of whole cloth.

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16 minutes ago, db4100 said:

Since it is an alternative to the real USS Alaska....how about an alternative name for Alaska

Alyeska

Alyeska is an archaic spelling of the Aleut word Alaska meaning "mainland", "great country", or "great land". The American state of Alaska derives its name from this word. Alyeska is related to the word Unalaska from the same root. Alyeska, in loose translation, also means "the object towards which the action of the sea is directed," or "that which the seas breaks against."
 
USS Alyeska

or Denali 

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14 minutes ago, ZachOneX1 said:

and Hawaii was an actual Alaska Class Cruiser however it was sold for scrap only 4 years after it was launched 

Thinking further on it, Hawaii can work; assuming WG doesn't make 3 different copies of the Alaska-class. It really depends on how WG decides to handle her.

  • Alaska probably as the Premium, assuming she's not going to ever appear in an actual cruiser or battlecruiser line.
  • Guam as either:
    • An alternate Premium to Alaska as a Ranked/Clan reward with slightly better AA or gimmicks over Alaska, akin to Flint vs Atlanta or Black vs Fletcher.
    • Or as THE Premium representative for the Alaska-class (if Alaska is destined for a line).
  • Hawaii would only become the 3rd Alaska-class if WG wanted her to serve as a Ranked/Clan Premium (again, like Flint or Black) if Guam is instead made the first Alaska-class Premium. Considering an unbuilt ship allows WG extra flexibility in how much more powerful they may want to make a Ranked/Clan reward ship over a more accessible version, Hawaii, being a canceled ship, allows WG to beef her up however they want to be better than a theoretical FXP Premium Guam or a line Alaska (again, assuming Alaska ends up in the line while Guam ends up as the FXP Premium).

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Nah, they will just spite you and put out another Myoko or Omaha clone. 

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maybe as a upgraded hull research?

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10 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

Nah, they will just spite you and put out another Myoko or Omaha clone. 

Personally, I wouldn't mind a proper Myoko sister or 3, even just as FXP Premiums since it'd be less gimmicky and more closely-related with minor differences in AA/secondaries/torpedoes. Then WG can upgrade their corresponding ARP selves too, becoming being another set of Premiumless "Premiums" like ARP Takao. Then also upgrade 3 of the Dragons to match as well, for those who chose to purchase a Premiumless Premium Dragon ship for the Lunar New Year (3 assuming WG makes 2 more Myoko clones for Northern and Eastern Dragons).

But I digress.

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44 minutes ago, ZachOneX1 said:

and Hawaii was an actual Alaska Class Cruiser however it was sold for scrap only 4 years after it was launched 

Uhh no...only Guam and A were ever completed. Hawaii was never finished

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6 minutes ago, Hanger_18 said:

Uhh no...only Guam and A were ever completed. Hawaii was never finished

Hawaii was finished up to around 80% before work was halted however her keel was laid and she was launched. Yes youre correct she was not entirely finished however she was extremely close. She was closer than CB-4 thru CB-6 ever were.which were never started. 

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