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Change one thing to a tech tree ship

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I have zero interest in the French BB line...and I'm stuck at work...so this dawned on me: what would you change (within reason) on a tech tree ship?

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Me personally I would give the Gneisenau the option to take the 11 inch guns. I feel like it could give the ship an unique opportunity to go for a high speed cruiser killer...more so the 15 inch guns are garbage. 

When you finish the grind for the ship, the Scharnhorst just looks like that much more of an attractive premium...you can sell more scharnies. 

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One thing on one ship? I think I'd tweak New Mexico's dispersion to equal Arizona's.

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Here's several ideas:

  • Give the US 5"/38 its historical rate of fire.
  • Give Gneisenau Hydro
  • Count STS in US armor profiles
  • Keep Baltimore as-is when it gets moved to Tier 8
  • Restore all battleships to historical turn radii

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20 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

I have zero interest in the French BB line...and I'm stuck at work...so this dawned on me: what would you change (within reason) on a tech tree ship?

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Me personally I would give the Gneisenau the option to take the 11 inch guns. I feel like it could give the ship an unique opportunity to go for a high speed cruiser killer...more so the 15 inch guns are garbage. 

When you finish the grind for the ship, the Scharnhorst just looks like that much more of an attractive premium...you can sell more scharnies. 

I do agree the 11" gun should have been the tech tree variant.

That said, after being a die hard Scharnhorst player, I'm learning to really appreciate the 15s on the Gneisenau.  You could have just bumped the accuracy or whatever for the premium 6 gun variant.

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Give Amagi 0.5 increased base secondary range.  I love my secondary build on her, I just wish I could reach out a hair further.

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I'd give Des Moines the same citadel as the Baltimore.  There is no reason a T10 ship should be far squishier than a T9.  It would at least give the Memes a shot while in open water instead of being the free citadel it currently is.

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14 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

Me personally I would give the Gneisenau the option to take the 11 inch guns. I feel like it could give the ship an unique opportunity to go for a high speed cruiser killer...more so the 15 inch guns are garbage. 

When you finish the grind for the ship, the Scharnhorst just looks like that much more of an attractive premium...you can sell more scharnies. 

I'd like this too. But let's face it, WG deliberately omitted the 11 inch guns from Gneisenau to keep Scharnhorst unique. I hate it when the historical version is locked behind a paywall, but that's just the way it is.

As for me, I'd give Iron Duke her historical Jutland hull. After all, this is Jellicoe's flagship we're talking about and it irritates me that WG butchered an iconic ship into an abomination. Not as abominable as Kaiser, Konig or Bayern, but still.

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CV planes do not spot ships or torpedoes for teammates.

Gun bloom time reduced to 10 seconds for destroyers and 15 seconds for cruisers.

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I want the WWI hulls back. Yes I know the grind sucked when the stock ship was basically a tier lower but those WWI hulls were cool.

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23 minutes ago, XpliCT_PaiiN said:

I'd give Des Moines the same citadel as the Baltimore.  There is no reason a T10 ship should be far squishier than a T9.  It would at least give the Memes a shot while in open water instead of being the free citadel it currently is.

I think this would be mine as well, either that or give T8 cruisers repair party.

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1 hour ago, Dr_Venture said:

I have zero interest in the French BB line...and I'm stuck at work...so this dawned on me: what would you change (within reason) on a tech tree ship?

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Me personally I would give the Gneisenau the option to take the 11 inch guns. I feel like it could give the ship an unique opportunity to go for a high speed cruiser killer...more so the 15 inch guns are garbage. 

When you finish the grind for the ship, the Scharnhorst just looks like that much more of an attractive premium...you can sell more scharnies. 

 

WG has already said that they think that allowing for two different gun options on the Mogami (6" and 8") was a mistake.  This is why they didn't provide the 11" and 15" gun options on the Gneisenau in the first place. What makes you think that they'll change their minds at this point, given all this?

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37 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

CV planes do not spot ships or torpedoes for teammates.

Gun bloom time reduced to 10 seconds for destroyers and 15 seconds for cruisers.

Two big thumbs up on this, Drake!  :cap_like: :cap_like:

 

One exception.  CV planes should spot enemy ships (even if they were only put on the minimap).  Ships yes, torps no.

Gun bloom change?  Yes please!  or maybe make the gun bloom penalty depend on gun size.  5" and below, 10 seconds.  6-10" guns, 15 seconds.  Above 10" in size, 20 seconds.  This would largely address ships that have oddball guns sizes, like the 5" guns on the Atlanta, or the 150mm guns on some German DDs, or the 11" guns on the Spee.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

CV planes do not spot ships or torpedoes for teammates.

Gun bloom time reduced to 10 seconds for destroyers and 15 seconds for cruisers.

Treat torpedoes as per a ship is, i.e. minimum range requirement to be detected and once out of range no longer detected.  And as per Crucis's idea, base the gun bloom on caliber.

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1 hour ago, Verios44 said:

Undo the USN BB armor nerf 

Huh??  The crowd here claims it (lowering the cits) was a buff.

Or do you want STS modeled?

 

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Barring giving Colorado a WeeVee hull  (I'd prefer a stand-alone premium for her), my thoughts would be:

Buff the reload speeds for the New York and New Mexico from the current 34.3s to something around 30s.

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3 hours ago, TheDreadnought said:

Here's several ideas:

  • Give the US 5"/38 its historical rate of fire.
  • Give Gneisenau Hydro
  • Count STS in US armor profiles
  • Keep Baltimore as-is when it gets moved to Tier 8
  • Restore all battleships to historical turn radii

Option D: All of the above. :Smile_great:

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