Can some of the long time players help me pick out a premium boat?

[Xlap]

4 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Perhaps you misread; OP has just unlocked (but not yet bought) a pair of Tier 5 ships.

I also advised due consideration as to where they think their game play is going with respect to ship type and nation. My only premium ship right now is the Vampire; won rather than bought, so she cost me nothing, and she is great fun to play... but she is only Tier III and thus completely ineligible for ANY task, mission or contest that I have personally encountered (not to mention that the only other captains she can currently train are those from the Perth, another Premium at a higher tier). Hence my advice for buying a somewhat higher-tier (or at least middling-tier) ship that the OP can grow into, and will prove useful in missions, than a low-tier one appropriate to their current skills but which is shut out of some tasks or rewards.

OP stats only show T4 ships so far, and very little games with them.

 

Once again, there is need to rush. He is in love tiers, so there os little need to credits and retrain cpt. Many premium ships have similar ships in the tech tree, Just play them and see if you like, if you do, than you buy the ship.

[Battlecruiser_Siegfried]

Scharnhorst - it's forgiving, in a good tier, has strong armor, respectable guns (for popping cruisers), torps, high speed, decent maneuverability, passable AA. 

[Parliament_Funkadelic]

48 minutes ago, abyssofthetriffid said:

Go no higher in a premium than tier 6 as this is the fun cut off point especially for maps.

The reviews are normally very wrong as the last 3 premium ships i have bought turned out to be garbage.

If you decide on a ship to buy pm me first before buying it.

 

Molotov is a great ship.

Ignore everything this guy says. Biggest troll on these boards.

[Kizarvexis]

59 minutes ago, JackG79 said:

Hey Guys!! 

 

Been playing about a week now.  just about to level 14 and I have a couple tier 5's unlocked.  But have not purchased them... (Port slots rather than credits are my issue right now)  I have almost 10 million cred's, but i'm out of slots till I can grab some gold. 

 

My question is this....    it seems that most people did their ship reviews when the game was in Beta.  So I have watched  several reviews that made the ships sound amazing...  The Atlanta,  The Sims,  and a Russian ship who's name escapes me...    Only to find out that now... (a few years later)  those ships have been beaten with the nerf bat.   And are no longer the power house that they were when their review was done by whomever.    I'am looking to buy a premium ship but I am having a very hard time, as it seems that all the good stuff that I find in reviews is either nerfed, or simply no longer available for sale in the prem. shop.     

Can someone who knows what has been nerfed and what has been buffed lead me in the direction of a good prem. boat  that is currently available?   I enjoy American, German, and British lines, but would not rule out any line if it came with a good reccomendation.   I want this premium mostly for credits and exp. reasons. 

I'm sorry if this has been done to death,  I just feel like a cat chasing it's tail watching old reviews of ships, to fid out they are no longer what they used to be, and are no longer available.   

Thanks  Gents: 

Jack 

 

 

Two pieces of advice.

 

You are just now going into T5 which has +2/-1 matchmaking. I would suggest playing some co-op at T5, just until you get comfortable in a T5 vs T7 bots. Once you are comfortable being bottom tier vs bots, then hop back into random to learn how to be comfortable being bottom tier vs humans. Use tactics that you use in random, angling and all that, with the exception of camping in PvE. In PvE you need to be more aggressive than in PvP and don't bring back the over aggression to PvP as it gets you sub-ing really quick. 

 

Second, after figuring out what type of ships you like to play, figure out your yearly budget on the game. I would suggest paying for premium time first, like you have done, as it helps all of your ships. Then figure out  how many premium ships you need, and which ones, to plan out a budget for the ships. If you are looking at getting a lot of past premiums, add up the suspected costs. For around $400 each of the last two years, there have been Armada bundles covering almost all the ships in the game at 50ish% or more off. So if you want a bunch of premiums, this might be a more cost effective way to go. If you have a narrow spectrum or you only need a few, then get them individually. Figure, US ships should be on sale for US cruiser split and if RU BBs are coming out Jul-Sep, then RU ships should be on sale.  If UK DDs come out Oct-Dec, then UK ships may be on sale. Do check the monthly calendar at the first of each month  on the News Page to see what sales are on for that month.

 

 

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

1 minute ago, Sweetsie said:

Biggest troll on these boards.

I can think of a couple worse, but I do place much faith in your first sentence.

[Sovereigndawg]

4 minutes ago, Sweetsie said:

Not sure if its been mentioned but another key factor in a purchase is will I be able to use this captain effectively on other ships... example The Atago, that captain can be used with the Myoko, Ibuki and Zao....same with the Tirpitz and several other tech tree German Ships and so on.

actually it's the other way around Premiums you can switch the captain from another ship to it with no penalty. I have 60 some odd premiums and none have their own captain but Poland.

[Firerizer]

My goto favorites are Scharnhorst and Atlanta.

When they become available check them out. 

Personally, I would go for the Scharn first.

Play the game and get a good feel for it until the ships once again become available.

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

Just now, Kizarvexis said:

If UK DDs come out Oct-Dec, then UK ships may be on sale.

Have you a reasonable expectation for this timeline? If so, it's going to be a long wait and it may be worth a grind up to the Gadjah Mada to get a feel for what an N-class destroyer is like. Provided of course they don't first toss us Cossack as a quest ship that can be won.

[LancerUlysses]

I note that the currently available premiums are

T4 Yubari

T6 Molotov, De Grasse, Perth, Admiral Graf Spee, HSF Graf Spee, Molotov, Dunkerque, Duca D'Aosta

T7 Sims, Leningrad, Blyskawica, Hood

T8 Kii, Atago, HSF Harekaze, Alabama, Tirpitz, Roma, LoYang

[LancerUlysses]

The Missouri, Musashi and Nelson require great effusion of blood tears toil, sweat and Free XP, but are available also.  

[I3lackout]

8 minutes ago, Cruiser_Fiume said:

Scharnhorst - it's forgiving, in a good tier, has strong armor, respectable guns (for popping cruisers), torps, high speed, decent maneuverability, passable AA. 

Agreed. If Scharn was available I would totally suggest it. Keep an eye out for it to become available again, OP

[JackG79]

22 minutes ago, Umikami said:

My advice, though you might not care for it, would be to continue grinding until you open up the tier 6's and can get them fully unlocked; this tier has some of the best ships in the game and is highly competitive. Solid BB's, outstanding cruisers, and a clue as to how higher tier DD play is going to be. And it will cost you nothing but time and effort.

And I would be VERY careful about accepting advice from just anyone in the Forum, and this certainly applies to me also; you should perform your due diligence and investigate and research ANY ship you want to spend money on, because it's YOUR MONEY. It helps that solid Community Contributors like @LittleWhiteMouse have written some outstanding ship reviews to assist you, but no player is like any other player and one Captains Wonder Ship is another Captains Harbor Queen. Find your play style and match your premium purchase to your needs. You'll be a helluva lot happier and much more successful.

Thank you for this! Very well said, and I have read some of her stuff. I found it very interesting. She does a great job.    Thanks for the time you took to give me this advice!! 

[TheKrimzonDemon]

43 minutes ago, JackG79 said:

It sounds like you went down the road I am trying to avoid.  THank you for this! i'll check out the tier 5's and 6's that people listed above and ill PM u before i pull the trigger on one! 

Honestly, the player you replied to is rather off the mark, and tends to be frequently, they have a rather uniquely negative view of much of the game. Most of the best premiums are at T6-8, and by best, I mean easiest and most fun to play, while being very competitive at the same time. Ships like Scharnhorst, Blyskawica, Leningrad, Tirpitz, Lo Yang, Dunkerque, Gallant, the list really goes on and on.

 

Rather than tier, what a player should be considering when buying a premium ship is A) The tiers they play the most, B) The class(es) they play the most, and C) The combination of tier and class that they find to be the most fun. Reading reviews is a good way to weed out potentially poor ships, however, I caution you to pay little heed to disgruntled players who can't make a ship work, and focus on actual reviews. For instance, the playerbase as a whole thinks Giulio Ceasre is one of the more OP ships in the game, and while I do ok with her, I've only managed 1 round where I'd consider her to be OP. The ship and I don't mesh well, for whatever reason. This doesn't mean the ship isnt worth it. Abyss fails with something, and so to them that means it must be horrible, when that is in fact not the case, and sadly, many players feel that way. Don't let your ego get in the way of making good choices within the game. :)

[Xlap]

13 minutes ago, BrushWolf said:

A lower tier ship would work. Tier four would be the best for him and I would suggest the Ishizuchi for a BB and the Yubari for a cruiser assuming they are still in the tech tree for doubloons. The tier two & three premiums are really for experienced players that love them for their history.

True, but low tier ships are more for fun/collection than XP/credits grind. Ishizushi would be a good chioce for that.

[Kizarvexis]

1 minute ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

Have you a reasonable expectation for this timeline? If so, it's going to be a long wait and it may be worth a grind up to the Gadjah Mada to get a feel for what an N-class destroyer is like. Provided of course they don't first toss us Cossack as a quest ship that can be won.

Nope. We know the French BBs are coming out the next patch, 7.2. The US cruiser split is supposed to happen the first half of 2018, so people are expecting it Apr to Jun-ish. There are serious rumors of Russian BBs coming out in the third quarter and we know RU BBs were pushed back last year, so that seems likely to happen. The fourth quarter line is mostly guess work, but with Campbeltown, Gallant, Vampire and Cossack DDs all out there, UK DDs in Oct-Dec seems like a good guess. 

[TheKrimzonDemon]

Oh, and another thing, you've only played 157 rounds, I suggest playing to around 500 before you decide to buy a premium ship. The game and the competition you face is about to get a lot harder, and maybe you'll decide the game isn't for you after all. It would be unfortunate for you to spend the money, decide you'd rather walk away, and then feel obligated within yourself to keep playing to justify the money you spent.

[Nachoo31]

Surprised that I don't know if any said. Get the premium ship of the line you want to play.  IJN DD line, Harekaze, etc.  Get the premium for the training of captains.  My favorite premiums are in tier 5, but Tier 8 is money making.  Also, don't forget about the Free Exp ships.

[Auroraz]

If you're not at the higher tiers, I'd wait on buying a high-tier premium

[awiggin]

1 hour ago, TheDreadnought said:

You just missed out on some good ones.  You also didn't say what type of ships you prefer.  But here's what I would recommend now:

Graf Spee - An awesome, and forgiving heavy cruiser with Heal.

Alabama - A fantastic US battleship, that can print some serious credits when played well.

If you have enough elite XP to convert (which I'm guessing maybe not), you could drop some serious cash to get the Missouri.  She's the gold standard of credit generation.  I think she is still available through the end of the month.

Honestly though, if you're looking for credits, and can't get Missouri, Alabama might be your best bet.  It's tough at Tier 8 though.  It will take you a lot of games to master her.

And this is why we can't have nice things....Players recommending high tier ships to a brand new player...

[Alien_Observer]

While in game, if you play long enough to get the 3 containers to drop, pick more credits because port slots sometimes come in that choice. I'd recommend the Perth.Don't spend gold on port slots.

[Panzer1113]

Have maybe picked the wrong time to try to get your first premium, very few are available for purchase right now.  Pick which class (DD, BB, Cruisers) you are most comfortable with.  More choices across tiers for cruisers right now.  Would suggest between Spee, DeGrasse and Molotov all those do not require a high-point Commander to perform and would be supportive if you want to grind that nation cruiser line as a captain trainer.  If you really like DDs, pretty big jump to tier 7, but Sims or Leningrad for captain training. BBs, a bit too high or funky right now, would wait on thoses.

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

2 minutes ago, LancerUlysses said:

I note that the currently available premiums are

T4 Yubari

T5 Duca D'Aosta

T6 Molotov, De Grasse, Perth, Admiral Graf Spee, HSF Graf Spee, Molotov, Dunkerque

T7 Sims, Leningrad, Blyskawica, Hood

T8 Kii, Atago, HSF Harekaze, Alabama, Tirpitz, Roma, LoYang

As a thought experiment, my analysis runs as follows:

T4 - it's where the OP is now. However, missions that enable one to win ships usually begin at T5, and this shuts the OP out from using their premium ship in them (a shame because any XP bonuses are valuable here).

T5 - Italian ships are currently premium-only with no free-to-play tech tree; this makes them orphans until the Italians arrive as a free-to-play nation (when?).

T6 - Russia/Soviet Union, Germany, France, Commonwealth; which national flavour are you? Commonwealth is a poor choice for the same reason as the Italians, only more so; a pity, as the Perth is not at all a bad ship. Dunkerque is an excellent choice if the French battleships live up to promise, but holding off is required here until such time as they are out, and the French tech tree has no destroyer line yet. Germany, on the other hand, has a well developed tech tree with all lines (except carriers; one weird outlier), and if that's the OP's national flavour then they could do far worse (she has torpedoes if you want to train a captain in destroyer skills, for example).

T7 - Russia/USSR, Britain, or the US is the national flavour choice, but Hood is a bad match for British cruiser mains, who have to learn to live without HE; OP would have to be climbing the British battleship line already to benefit most from her.  Blys is a wonderful destroyer from all I've heard, but Poland is even more of an orphan nation than the Commonwealth; this is her only ship in the entire game. Too restrictive in every way.

T8 - Lots of Japanese choices and one good German, but too far above the OP's current skill level. Leave these well to one side. Pan-Asian is a very narrow specialisation, and the Lo Yang differs from almost all her compatriots in one very, very important respect (deepwater torpedoes) that makes all the difference to the way she plays; another good reason to leave her.

 

Take all this as you will, OP, and use it to inform your choices.

[Ramsalot]

4 minutes ago, Alien_Observer said:

While in game, if you play long enough to get the 3 containers to drop, pick more credits because port slots sometimes come in that choice. I'd recommend the Perth.Don't spend gold on port slots.

I am pretty sure that port slots drop when you choose signals/flags.  I never purchased a port slot, and I have 51 ships with 14 vacant port slots...  I always pick more signals and flags.

[pyantoryng]

Form your opinion on the game...wait for discount...

[LancerUlysses]

Just now, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

As a thought experiment, my analysis runs as follows:

...

T5 - Italian ships are currently premium-only with no free-to-play tech tree; this makes them orphans until the Italians arrive as a free-to-play nation (when?).

 

Take all this as you will, OP, and use it to inform your choices.

I edited my post as the Duca is actually T6. Otherwise, good breakdown. I would add that Yubari sucks, but  that's another matter ;)