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I don't see a Premium tier 7 USN Battleship that's available.

I would have no hesitation or problem buying one.

Any ideas what USN ship would fit?

 

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Maryland.  Some have suggested Tennessee in late-war uber-AA omygawdtheresgunseverywhere trim.  But she'd need to have cruiser-like dispersion (i.e., even better than Arizona, which has the same guns) for her main battery to be competitive at that tier.

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West Virginia 1945

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West Virginia has been requested numerous times, but she's problematic because of her AA suite being flat out better than Colorado. Downtiered, stock Washington is possible but also problematic. Which only really leaves Maryland or an uptiered Tennessee/California.

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10 minutes ago, Goose21891 said:

West Virginia has been requested numerous times, but she's problematic because of her AA suite being flat out better than Colorado. Downtiered, stock Washington is possible but also problematic. Which only really leaves Maryland or an uptiered Tennessee/California.

She's not problematic at all, considering Kaga can out right roflstomp ANYTHING in her tier bracket when the CV captain isn't a potato. 

Hell I watched Texas fight a CV at her tier and he got through that, West Virginia would be fine. 

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Alaska -- except make it a cruiser -- at Tier 7.

but seriously -- what about the Lexington before it got Washington Naval Treaty'ied.  BC sure -- but could provide some giggles during my nightly randoms

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A Lexington Battlecruiser wouldn't be a bad idea in all honesty.  We'd obviously be looking at a hypothetical refit that needs period accurate AA and secondaries, but I could see it working.  The same could also be said for a 1920 South Dakota class that's been refit too.  The main issue is that whatever premium BB that does end up at tier 7 can't be another 21 knot standard, that's simply too slow for the tier these days.

That's also one of the reasons I'd argue against either Maryland or West Virginia, the Colorado's very outdated in the game's meta right now and should be given a new top hull based off either of her sister ships final fit.

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1945 Pennsylvania would work if given preferential MM

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Maybe the 3x4 14in armed North Carolina pre-escalator design?

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ohhh...and call it Saratoga so folks heads wont explode when they see two Lexingtons' in the same match -- cept' one is a CV and one is a BC

 

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22 minutes ago, kerensky914 said:

Maryland.  Some have suggested Tennessee in late-war uber-AA omygawdtheresgunseverywhere trim.  But she'd need to have cruiser-like dispersion (i.e., even better than Arizona, which has the same guns) for her main battery to be competitive at that tier.

The Maryland would be nice at Tier 7.

 

24 minutes ago, kerensky914 said:

Tennessee in late-war uber-AA omygawdtheresgunseverywhere trim

Yes please!

 

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7 minutes ago, Cruiser_Fiume said:

I'd prefer Maryland to Tennessee. Why? Oh, that's EASY:

2000px-Flag_of_Maryland.svg.png

One of the most awesome flags in the whole world.

John Hopkins grad?

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Tennessee or Pennsylvania would need ahistorical buffs to be effective in Tier 9.  Preferential MM seems to make sense in cases of uptiering due to AA capability combined with lower tier main gun caliber. 

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1 minute ago, Dr_Dirt said:

John Hopkins grad?

Uh, no. Sorry. I have many degrees, but I fled Maryland as soon as high school was over. Annapolis, as well as the western portion of the state, are very nice, but if you live elsewhere... feh. It's not the worst place in the world, but you can do better.

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1 minute ago, Cruiser_Fiume said:

Uh, no. Sorry. I have many degrees, but I fled Maryland as soon as high school was over. Annapolis, as well as the western portion of the state, are very nice, but if you live elsewhere... feh. It's not the worst place in the world, but you can do better.

I too fled Maryland, but it was after having moved there in the first place.  I prefer Virginia by a lot.  Maryland /does/ have a pretty kick [edited]flag going for it, and I would buy the top end bundle to get it.

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There are lots of good options, though this Lexington-class battlecruiser idea is pretty darned interesting.

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All in for Lexington in her battlecruiser configuration.

 

 

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1 hour ago, kerensky914 said:

Some have suggested Tennessee in late-war uber-AA omygawdtheresgunseverywhere trim.  But she'd need to have cruiser-like dispersion (i.e., even better than Arizona, which has the same guns)

Well, not quite.  Tennessee has the 356mm/50 rifles of the preceding New Mexico-class, not the 356mm/45 rifles that Arizona had.

 

1 hour ago, mofton said:

Maybe the 3x4 14in armed North Carolina pre-escalator design?

A USN-Style Alsace-like design would be interesting to have, true.

 

Still holding out for late WW2 WeeVee to eventually arrive, myself, though I suppose a pre-Treaty Lexington-class battlecruiser would be a good what-if as well.

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1 hour ago, kerensky914 said:

Maryland.  Some have suggested Tennessee in late-war uber-AA omygawdtheresgunseverywhere trim.  But she'd need to have cruiser-like dispersion (i.e., even better than Arizona, which has the same guns) for her main battery to be competitive at that tier.

Tennessee and Arizona don't have the same guns, Tennessee has the same guns as New Mexico.

Tennessee has 14"/50 cals and Arizona has 14"/45 cals, so Tennessee has an extra 30m/s in muzzle velocity with the same shells.

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Something with speed please.  No more standards.

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USS Constellation (CC-2).

Basically the planned version of the Lexington class battlecruiser. It would be armed with 16 inch guns in 4 double-turrets, with a total displacement of ~45,000 tons. It would have a top speed to rival the Iowas and Scharnhorst/Gneisenau, topping out at 33 knots, but at only a 7 inch belt it would be quite squishy, and its nearly 900 foot length wouldn't do it any favors.

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West Virginia would be ideal. But would likely take a hit somewhere for all that AA and armor addition.

Maryland would work too; mainly just being more AA-heavy than Colorado herself; in the same manner as Texas is to NY.

Uptiered Tennessee can work as well, but would likely need slightly buffed accuracy or RoF at least, her armor and slow speed would offset her prickly porcupine AA mounting.

Battlecruiser Lexington would actually be different and more tempting, simply because its faster. Depending on how WG models her, she could appear with almost no AA (as-designed) to counterbalance her speed (WG can go with the extra-generous 33kt, or dial it back a bit to 31kt), or add more AA but cut into her speed a fair bit. This is assuming we don't ever get a battlecruiser Lexington in a second USN BB line split.

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