Wait, did I do something wrong(new mission)

[mustangman6579]

 

As far as I know, we lost 0 transport ships, so why didn't we get 5 stars?

 

Is it because i killed all the enemy ships too fast?

 

 

I pushed straight into the enemy as they wern't doing a whole lot of damage to me, and killed everything just about as fast as it could spawn. Is this a bad thing?

[Lert]

Did all the assault trooper carriers make it to the enemy base?

[mustangman6579]

6 minutes ago, Lert said:

Did all the assault trooper carriers make it to the enemy base?

None of them died. I think what happened, was this. 

 

You know how there is 4 of them? 2 in front and 2 behind? Well the first 2 made it in, and I think as soon as the main ship entered, the game ended. Didn't give time for the last 2 to enter. 

I think it's a bug. 

[Lert]

2 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

I think it's a bug. 

Nope, not a bug. Simply you not completing a mission parameter. All of them have to be in the enemy base when the battle ends. Not half of them.

[mustangman6579]

3 minutes ago, Lert said:

Nope, not a bug. Simply you not completing a mission parameter. All of them have to be in the enemy base when the battle ends. Not half of them.

How is that not a bug? I can't control how fast they go or when the game ends. 

 

Or did the game end early because we killed all enemies?

[Lert]

1 minute ago, mustangman6579 said:

How is that not a bug? I can't control how fast they go or when the game ends. 

 

Or did the game end early because we killed all enemies?

Games have always ended when you kill all enemies. And it's not a bug, because it's doing exactly what it's programmed to.

[mustangman6579]

2 minutes ago, Lert said:

Games have always ended when you kill all enemies. And it's not a bug, because it's doing exactly what it's programmed to.

lol what? Have you even played missions? A lot of them do not end when all the enemies are dead. In fact, I don't think any of them do, unless that's the main mission. 

[mustangman6579]

in fact, this mission didn't end when all the ships were dead. so you have no idea what you are talking about. 

[Lert]

4 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

so you have no idea what you are talking about. 

Says the one who doesn't think "they have to be in the enemy base" means that they have to be in the enemy base. GG. The instructions couldn't be more clear.

[mustangman6579]

Just now, Lert said:

Says the one who doesn't think "they have to be in the enemy base" means that they have to be in the enemy base. GG.

lol wut? Your reading skills are subpar sir. 

[Lert]

Just now, mustangman6579 said:

lol wut? Your reading skills are subpar sir. 

It's literally what this thread is about. The objective states that they have to make it to the enemy base. And you're here making threads wondering how you didn't complete that objective when they didn't make it to the enemy base.

[mustangman6579]

Just now, Lert said:

It's literally what this thread is about. The objective states that they have to make it to the enemy base. And you're here making threads wondering how you didn't complete that objective when they didn't make it to the enemy base.

No, I'm asking WHY they DIDN'T make it to the base. Like I said, your reading skills are subpar. 

[Lert]

8 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

No, I'm asking WHY they DIDN'T make it to the base. Like I said, your reading skills are subpar. 

Uh ... no you didn't.

1 hour ago, mustangman6579 said:

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As far as I know, we lost 0 transport ships, so why didn't we get 5 stars?

Is it because i killed all the enemy ships too fast?

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I pushed straight into the enemy as they wern't doing a whole lot of damage to me, and killed everything just about as fast as it could spawn. Is this a bad thing?

Nowhere in there do you ask why the ships didn't make it to the zone. You specifically asked why you didn't get 5 stars, IE, why you failed the objective despite it explaining crystal clear what needs to happen for that objective to complete. And you're talking to me about reading comprehension, you can't even remember what your own thread is about.

<edit> you know what? You can just rot for all I care, I'm out of this thread.

[mustangman6579]

Lets try this again....mission is to escort troops ships. 

No troop ships died, but yet 5 stars was not achieved. 

I asked if the mission ended early because Me and a couple others killed all the enemy ships. 

You said all games end when all enemies are dead.  I said no, the game did NOT end when all the enemies died. 

 

So that leaves the point of, WHY did the escort ships NOT enter the base? 

 

16 minutes ago, Lert said:

Uh ... no you didn't.

Nowhere in there do you ask why the ships didn't make it to the zone. You specifically asked why you didn't get 5 stars. And you're talking to me about reading comprehension, you can't even remember what your own thread is about.

 

But you are correct. I didn't come out and directly ask that question word for word. I'm sorry that i assumed you had deductive reasoning skills. I guess i was wrong. 

[pewpewpew42]

Don't know why it only gave you 4 stars. Lert doesn't like reading and looking at screenshots, which should clear things up a lot for him.

[RipNuN2]

23 minutes ago, Lert said:

Games have always ended when you kill all enemies. And it's not a bug, because it's doing exactly what it's programmed to.

 

Not all operations are programmed that way. For instance, Raptor Rescue will keep going after all enemies are dead until the CV reaches the evac point.

[Lert]

22 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

Lets try this again....mission is to escort troops ships.

Mission is to escort troop ships INTO THE ENEMY BASE. It's clearly, perfectly legibly written in the objectives. Escort them INTO THE ENEMY BASE. Here, I'll underline it for you.

Which you did not do. So that's the objective you failed.

22 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

No troop ships died, but yet 5 stars was not achieved.

Again, mission doesn't state 'keep the troop ships alive anywhere on the map'. It specifically states where they have to be. And you talk to me about reading comprehension.

22 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

I asked if the mission ended early because Me and a couple others killed all the enemy ships.

That would be the logical conclusion, yes.

22 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

You said all games end when all enemies are dead.  I said no, the game did NOT end when all the enemies died.

I concede that point, you are right, I was wrong.

22 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

I'm sorry that i assumed you had deductive reasoning skills. I guess i was wrong. 

And I'm sorry that I addressed what you actually wrote instead of reading your mind and answering a question you did not ask. My bad, my mind reading abilities are a bit on the fritz today. Maybe if you want an answer to a certain question it helps us mere humans to actually ask the question you want an answer to. But noooo, I'm the bad guy and have no reading comprehension because I answered the question you asked. What a horrible person I am! Ooooh, I'll go turn myself in to the police tomorrow, shame on me, shaaaaaaame!

But since you specifically mention it later, the troop ships didn't make it into the enemy base because they were too slow and the match ended before they could reach it.

Look, computers are dumb, they're stupid. If they were actually smart, they would have accepted that if the troop transports were still alive at match end, they would've happily sailed to the enemy base and all's roses and fairies. But computers are dumb. Apparently, this scenario simply counts how many troop ships are in the enemy base at match end, and passes or fails you on that. Well, now you know.

21 minutes ago, pewpewpew42 said:

Don't know why it only gave you 4 stars. Lert doesn't like reading and looking at screenshots, which should clear things up a lot for him.

Dude, just, no. I looked at his screenshots, I read his post, I answered the question he asked and used the information available in the screenshot to do so. I even underlined it.

[Skpstr]

Seems weird, you'd think that if all the enemy ships were dead, it would default to all transports entering the zone.

Doesn't make sense that you have to fight less effectively to get 5 stars.

[mustangman6579]

3 minutes ago, Lert said:

Mission is to escort troop ships INTO THE ENEMY BASE. It's clearly, perfectly legibly written in the objectives. Escort them INTO THE ENEMY BASE. Here, I'll underline it for you.

 

Which you did not do. So that's the objective you failed.

 

I did not, correct. But the cruisers on my team did. We had 2-3 cruisers inside the circle escorting at the time of the missions end. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Lert said:

 

Look, computers are dumb, they're stupid. If they were actually smart, they would have accepted that if the troop transports were still alive at match end, they would've happily sailed to the enemy base and all's roses and fairies. But computers are dumb. Apparently, this scenario simply counts how many troop ships are in the enemy base at match end, and passes or fails you on that. Well, now you know.

 

So basically, it sounds as if it IS a bug, and the players have to sandbag killing things just so that the COMPUTER can sail 5 ships into the base instead of just 3. 

[Snargfargle]

The only way to see what exactly happened is to view the game itself. @mustangman6579, do you have a replay?

[mustangman6579]

1 minute ago, Snargfargle said:

The only way to see what exactly happened is to view the game itself. @mustangman6579, do you have a replay?

That's a good idea. I'm leaving at this moment, but later tonight I'll see if I have a replay and watch it myself. If I am correct on what happened, I'll link it up. If I missed a ship or 2 dieing, then I'll correct myself in this thread. 

[Lert]

1 minute ago, mustangman6579 said:

I did not, correct. But the cruisers on my team did. We had 2-3 cruisers inside the circle escorting at the time of the missions end.

But the cruisers weren't part of the objective, were they. The troop ships were.

1 minute ago, mustangman6579 said:

So basically, it sounds as if it IS a bug, and the players have to sandbag killing things just so that the COMPUTER can sail 5 ships into the base instead of just 3. 

Not a bug. Bug = programming that gives an unexpected and unintended result due to a fault in the coding like a typo or a misplaced parenthesis, etc. This is just lazy programming, they didn't think to add a clause that allows troop ships that are still alive to count if the battle ends with no red ships afloat anymore. Human stupidity and lazy programming. But not a bug.

Fun side note: The term 'bug' comes from the time when computers were run by punch cards with holes in them, and an actual bug - as in insect - would plug up a hole so the computer didn't read it properly, and the program didn't do what was intended.

[mustangman6579]

Just now, Lert said:

But the cruisers weren't part of the objective, were they. The troop ships were.

Not a bug. Bug = programming that gives an unexpected and unintended result due to a fault in the coding like a typo or a misplaced parenthesis, etc. This is just lazy programming, they didn't think to add a clause that allows troop ships that are still alive to count if the battle ends with no red ships afloat anymore. Human stupidity and lazy programming. But not a bug.

Fun side note: The term 'bug' comes from the time when computers were run by punch cards with holes in them, and an actual bug - as in insect - would plug up a hole so the computer didn't read it properly, and the program didn't do what was intended.

No, but it states to escort the ships, and the cruisers on my team were doing just that. 

 

Never knew that about that term. 

"the more you know"

[Lert]

2 minutes ago, mustangman6579 said:

No, but it states to escort the ships, and the cruisers on my team were doing just that.

Not to the point the game was programmed to recognize though. Again, lazy programming.

[mustangman6579]

Anyhow, I gtg, but I'll see if I have the replay and watch it to see if maybe I got any details incorrect.