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Just saw this pop on YT: Stalingrad Video.

 

Thoughts?

 

Edit: My thought is it's a super Moskva as predicated. Displacement listed as 42,000. What's that translate to HP-wise?

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My thought is I hope they are trialing this for future introduction of the USS Alaska/Guam.

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Yikes, this ship is going to actually have Stalinium rounds.

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17 minutes ago, enderland07 said:

My thought is I hope they are trialing this for future introduction of the USS Alaska/Guam.

Seems a little silly, doesn't it?  I'm imagining the conversation at WarGaming.

"So, we need our first ever Premium Tier X ship as a Clan Battles Reward.  Ideas?"

"What about that American cruiser class with the 12" guns?"

"Russian cruiser with 12" guns, you say?"

"No, I-"

"BRILLIANT! We'll call it the Stalingrad!"

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clan battles reward???
SO after all that controversy on the win.... they get a SHIP??? a RUSSIAN  TIER TEN premium SHIP??? (that no one else can buy???)

MAKES ME THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THREADS SAYING A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THIS...

 

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2 minutes ago, pmgaudio said:

clan battles reward???
SO after all that controversy on the win.... they get a SHIP??? a RUSSIAN  TIER TEN premium SHIP??? (that no one else can buy???)

MAKES ME THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THREADS SAYING A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THIS...

 

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Dont get too far ahead of yourself, WG already has that covered:

 

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2 minutes ago, pmgaudio said:

clan battles reward???
SO after all that controversy on the win.... they get a SHIP??? a RUSSIAN  TIER TEN premium SHIP??? (that no one else can buy???)

MAKES ME THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THREADS SAYING A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THIS...

If by "They" you are referring to a certain Clan that was said to have secured top spot in clan battles with some underhanded tactics...

Understand that all players that won a certain number of Typhoon League matches received a Stalingrad flag, and that obtaining several such flags over multiple Clan Battles seasons will unlock the Stalingrad.

So it's not just going to one clan.  It's going to anyone that is able to win multiple Typhoon League battles over multiple seasons.

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Just now, 1nv4d3rZ1m said:

Dont get too far ahead of yourself, WG already has that covered:

 

looking forward to that..

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Oh meh grrrrr!!!

 

WHERE IS CLAN BATTLES SEASON 2 ALREADY???

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6 minutes ago, Brhinosaurus said:

If by "They" you are referring to a certain Clan that was said to have secured top spot in clan battles with some underhanded tactics...

Understand that all players that won a certain number of Typhoon League matches received a Stalingrad flag, and that obtaining several such flags over multiple Clan Battles seasons  will unlock the Stalingrad.

So it's not just going to one clan.  It's going to anyone that is able to win multiple Typhoon League battles over multiple seasons.

I know that... just still digging at that "win"
such things really seem to stick in my side i,,,
Its just a game but that kind of thing makes people wonder why even bother trying if you don't have a fair chance because people do such things to gain an unfair advantage over the average person just trying hard to win, fairly and honestly to get JUST rewards, untainted by sneaky uncouth tactics...

 

and not so much about what was done... but more what was not DONE about it, knowing it was done and passed by like it was not a bad thing.... to the thousands of other players....

 

Meh... that's what I get for being average and green..
I don't think I am entitled in any way to anything regarding this, just voicing my opinion (which is a generally similar one to hundreds of others on the matter)

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No need to win clan wars boys, you can buy it...or will be able to.

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11 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

No need to win clan wars boys, you can buy it...or will be able to.

Nice.

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I'm just wondering if this might mean ships like the IJN Design B65, the KM O class, Dutch design 1047, and of course the often mentioned Alaska class, if they are to be made in game, will be categorized as (high tier) cruisers?

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So Stalingrad is a tier X cruiser? Then all of the large Cruiser Classes: B65 (pre 14 in guns), and Alaska are cruisers as their plan doctrine was intended.

 

Good.

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You know how Moskva has 18km of unconcealment when stock? = 13.82km max

You know how Cruisers only get 12% from Concealment Expert, while Battleships get 14% from CE?

Montana 17.82km base = 13.38km max

Yeah, that.

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50 minutes ago, Dr_Venture said:

No need to win clan wars boys, you can buy it...or will be able to.

source?

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So this fake thing makes it into the game and Alaska just rots.

Boo.

*Edit* Actually, let's go for the whole gas can on this, shall we?

Stalingrad, Alaska, and B-64 were NOT CRUISERS. I don't care what their respective nationalities claim; I certainly don't care what Wargaming asserts (it's outright ludicrous that people cite this company's staff as if they were naval historians) - these were all battlecruisers. B-A-T-T-L-E-C-R-U-I-S-E-R-S. And, certainly, true cruiser captains do not benefit from having their lines capped out by ships that rightfully belong as tier 7/8ish battleships, or by premiums that muscle their way into the fracas and eat their lunch.

People should recognize this for what it is: an effort to further expand the "battleship good ol' boys club" by intruding on cruiser tiering.

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1 minute ago, Cruiser_Fiume said:

So this fake thing makes it into the game and Alaska just rots.

Boo.

Go ahead, go start a thread about adding the Alaska to the game and see what happens.  

Hint, you'll need a lot of :Smile_popcorn:

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They turned another Battlecruiser into a Cruiser?  Russia!  Why u no understand ship types?  Stalingrad has a heavier standard load then the Battleship Richelieu!

"The Stalingrad-class battlecruiser, also known as Project 82 (Russian: Тяжёлые крейсера проекта 82), was a Soviet battlecruiser design from 1941." -wikipedia

Type:    Battlecruiser
Displacement:    
36,500 metric tons (35,900 long tons) (standard)
42,300 metric tons (41,600 long tons) (full load)

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1 hour ago, Dr_Venture said:

No need to win clan wars boys, you can buy it...or will be able to.

On reading their article, I don't think you're going to be able to buy it.  Sounds like there's going to be a campaign (probably long) to earn it.

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5 minutes ago, Sventex said:

They turned another Battlecruiser into a Cruiser?  Russia!  Why u no understand ship types?  Stalingrad has a heavier standard load then the Battleship Richelieu!

"The Stalingrad-class battlecruiser, also known as Project 82 (Russian: Тяжёлые крейсера проекта 82), was a Soviet battlecruiser design from 1941." -wikipedia

Type:    Battlecruiser
Displacement:    
36,500 metric tons (35,900 long tons) (standard)
42,300 metric tons (41,600 long tons) (full load)

It's all about "World of Battleships" power creep. Ships like Moskva and Hindenburg were already pushing the envelope. This thing bursts out of it covered in orange goo and screaming deliriously and babbling in tongues. 

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