Just going to start the grind at t1

[ObiphanKenobi]

Hi all,

My project is commencing today for the Russian Cruiser, unfortunately it going to be from t1. The reason is that I witness in Clan War Moskva is the most hardest cruiser to kill, and every battle, if her presented, she will be the first to get scout and focus fire. I found that even though I can citadel her, but it harder to get a good grip. So, here I am, Orlan rock and loaded.

 

any tips? I know low tier is like glass canon, until the Moskva (she look like a battleship then a cruiser up close and personal). Looking for advices from t1 to t8, I can figure out the rest.

anything else is greatly appreciated!

 

regards,

[HowitzerBlitzer]

I don't really need to give advice on tier 2-4 as they're just like any other cruiser at those tiers, but with battleship rudders. Bogatyr is broken in the right hands, Svietlana lights tons of fires.

At tiers 5 through 9 you stay at long range and fire HE (IFHE helps quite a bit at those tiers). Your shell trajectories are some of the best for cruisers, firing at range shouldn't be a problem. The AP is great, but I recall the normalization angles being poor, and they tend to over pen broadsides easily. So only use it if you get a flat angle.

If you're trying to avoid fire, use your high speed for a cruiser. I find it easier to not touch the rudder - It doesn't turn you quick enough, and if anything slows you down. Keep going straight and hope they didn't lead far enough.

And after that it's tier 10, which I can't help you too much with. Moskva's bow is overmatchable (I think it's 25mm thick?), so you want to angle slightly to one side and hope they hit your 50mm sides or armour belt.

[AdmiralThunder]

T1-T4 nothing unique or different really from the others. You can easily play them with basic game skills. Nothing different to do than you did in any other line with T1-T4 cruisers. Also, T1-T4 have nothing in common really with the line later on.

T5 is where you take on the hard hitting guns, HE spamming from LONG range play style, and absolutely NO armor trait of the Russian Cruisers T5-T8, somewhat better armored at T9, and leading up to Moskva at T10 which is a different beast. Also, Russian Cruisers T5-T8 only get 4km torps. They are almost useless due to that range.

Kirov at T5 is very hard to play and do well in. It is as fragile or even more so than the T5 BRN Emerald and USN T7 Pensacola (more so than both IMO). If you sneeze while playing the game and a booger hits your screen the Kirov takes a citadel hit and you are blown up with a dev strike. I just could not make it work at all. Finally dropped the line completely for a while. When I came back I used Free XP to T6 Budyonny. NO ships make BB drivers drool more than Kirov, Emerald, and Pensacola.

T6 Budyonny actually has a little armor and is a decent ship. Almost like a beefy Nurnberg or some such. You spam HE from way off and if you catch a Cruiser broadside you can wreck it with your AP if close. May as well forget torps unless a last ditch suicide run or self defense measure against a super close enemy.

I have only played to T6. However, the T7 Shchors and T8 Chapayev, would seem to play about the same from what I see playing against them. Long range HE spammers with useless torps. They go back to the light armor from what I can tell and are super easy to citadel and take out. But they are fast and can burn you down with ease if you aren't careful.

The T9 Dmitri Donskoi is a bit tougher and actually gets some armor. It is a CA I believe not a CL but? It actually gets some useful 8km torps. Still not hard to take out but it can hurt you bad.

Moskva is not a Cruiser. LOL It is soemthing more. Nuff said LOL.

[landedkiller]

53 minutes ago, ObiwankzKenobi said:

Hi all,

My project is commencing today for the Russian Cruiser, unfortunately it going to be from t1. The reason is that I witness in Clan War Moskva is the most hardest cruiser to kill, and every battle, if her presented, she will be the first to get scout and focus fire. I found that even though I can citadel her, but it harder to get a good grip. So, here I am, Orlan rock and loaded.

 

any tips? I know low tier is like glass canon, until the Moskva (she look like a battleship then a cruiser up close and personal). Looking for advices from t1 to t8, I can figure out the rest.

anything else is greatly appreciated!

 

regards,

This is what i am running on the tier 6 Budonny atm skills are very important for this line no joke

 

 

[tm63au]

48 minutes ago, ObiwankzKenobi said:

Hi all,

My project is commencing today for the Russian Cruiser, unfortunately it going to be from t1. The reason is that I witness in Clan War Moskva is the most hardest cruiser to kill, and every battle, if her presented, she will be the first to get scout and focus fire. I found that even though I can citadel her, but it harder to get a good grip. So, here I am, Orlan rock and loaded.

 

any tips? I know low tier is like glass canon, until the Moskva (she look like a battleship then a cruiser up close and personal). Looking for advices from t1 to t8, I can figure out the rest.

anything else is greatly appreciated!

 

regards,

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't fall into the trap, this guy cant play to save his life all your hard earned tips from playing will be  wasted.

I have to carry this guy when we DIV all the time  , and as for VMF ships please why in gods name would you want to grind that line  .

So please folks discourage this new project of his I don't want to suffer countless defeats in the VMF line in DIV play with him

Obiwan do us all a big favour and go play candy crush

regards   

[Fishrokk]

31 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

NO ships make BB drivers drool more than Kirov, Emerald, and Pensacola.

Omaha, all day, erry day.

[ObiphanKenobi]

2 minutes ago, tm63au said:

I have to carry this guy when we DIV

liar liar, *pant" on fire; stalker.

How can someone carry someone else while in his famous premium t5 that hit an island at 2 mins in game? and took another 5 mins to get to cap while most of the battle already done and not to mention a completed 3 full torps salvo missed at the BB (slow moving bb too)  then got kill because on the last missed torp run, went straight to 3 cruisers which had hydro. Bad, very bad.

[AdmiralThunder]

19 minutes ago, Fishrokk said:

Omaha, all day, erry day.

I agree it I soft but not sure it is worse than those 3 LOL.

[AdmiralThunder]

29 minutes ago, tm63au said:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't fall into the trap, this guy cant play to save his life all your hard earned tips from playing will be  wasted.

I have to carry this guy when we DIV all the time  , and as for VMF ships please why in gods name would you want to grind that line  .

So please folks discourage this new project of his I don't want to suffer countless defeats in the VMF line in DIV play with him

Obiwan do us all a big favour and go play candy crush

regards   

 

20 minutes ago, ObiwankzKenobi said:

liar liar, *pant" on fire; stalker.

How can someone carry someone else while in his famous premium t5 that hit an island at 2 mins in game? and took another 5 mins to get to cap while most of the battle already done and not to mention a completed 3 full torps salvo missed at the BB (slow moving bb too)  then got kill because on the last missed torp run, went straight to 3 cruisers which had hydro. Bad, very bad.

I see couples therapy in the near future. 

[ObiphanKenobi]

3 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

I see couples therapy in the near future

Love is in the air ........................ cant remembered the rest of the song

Will post battle result of each grind here

[AdmiralThunder]

Just now, ObiwankzKenobi said:

Love is in the air ........................ cant remembered the rest of the song

Will post battle result of each grind here

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Love is in the air, every sight and every sound
And I don't know if I'm being foolish
Don't know if I'm being wise
But is something that I must believe in
And it's there when I look in your eyes

Love is in the air, in the whisper of the trees
Love is in the air, in the thunder of the sea
And I don't know if I'm just dreaming
Don't know if I feel sane
But it's something that I must believe in
And it's there when you call out my name

Love is in the air, love is in the air

Love is in the air, in the rising of the sun
Love is in the air, when the day is nearly done
And I don't know if you're illusion
Don't know if see it true
But you're something that I must believe in
And you're there when I reach out for you

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Love is in the air, every sight and every sound
And I don't know if I'm being foolish
Don't know if I'm being wise
But it's something that I must believe in
And it's there when I look in your eyes

Love is in the air, love is in the air
Love is in the air, love is in the air

[tm63au]

6 minutes ago, ObiwankzKenobi said:

Love is in the air ........................ cant remembered the rest of the song

Will post battle result of each grind here

your scary

[tm63au]

12 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

 

I see couples therapy in the near future. 

amusing  plus 1

[AdmiralThunder]

2 minutes ago, tm63au said:

amusing  plus 1

LOL

[BullHalsey]

You learn to be hyper alert and dodge all fire possible in most circumstances.  Stay a healthy distance from BB concentrations, especially while getting the knack for it.

That's pretty much all cruisers.

Russian ones are all paper armored from T5-9.  Play em at range early on to mid/late battle unless you are certain of not getting caught out by ANY battleship.  The only armor exception is the Buddy, which isn't half bad angled ahead.  Strongest all around until Moskva, which is more of a battlecruiser.  Moskva can actually Bounce Yamato shells while angled ahead.  Just let them glide down the side of the belt armor.  I have charged healthy Yammys this way and killed them.  I remember one that finally realized he was fu**ed and turned to run, which of course only made matters worse for him.  Pretty entertaining.

They are very frustrating and high skill, so be ready for that.

All that said, Moskva, entertaining as it can be, is not my favorite CA.  The lack of torps is a significantly restricting issue.

[AdmiralThunder]

2 minutes ago, BullHalsey said:

You learn to be hyper alert and dodge all fire possible in most circumstances.  Stay a healthy distance from BB concentrations, especially while getting the knack for it.

That's pretty much all cruisers.

Russian ones are all paper armored from T5-9.  Play em at range early on to mid/late battle unless you are certain of not getting caught out by ANY battleship.  The only armor exception is the Buddy, which isn't half bad angled ahead.  Strongest all around until Moskva, which is more of a battlecruiser.  Moskva can actually Bounce Yamato shells while angled ahead.  Just let them glide down the side of the belt armor.  I have charged healthy Yammys this way and killed them.  I remember one that finally realized he was fu**ed and turned to run, which of course only made matters worse for him.  Pretty entertaining.

They are very frustrating and high skill, so be ready for that.

Well put.

[Fishrokk]

25 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

I agree it I soft but not sure it is worse than those 3 LOL.

I'd skip over those three to shoot an Omaha any time I see one.

You also forgot Nurnberg - the only ship commonly referred to with the words "obligatory" and "exploding" in front of it's name.

I ain't saying Kirov is not squishy.  It's just not *that* squishy.

[ObiphanKenobi]

6 minutes ago, BullHalsey said:

Moskva can actually Bounce Yamato shells while angled ahead

My own experiences during the clan battle, while playing in my Hinddy, is HE the Moskva then switch to AP and aim at the front turret; some bounces but some go straight in, and then use torp to force his angle Or everyone focus fire him first LOL. I did however in random battle cit and devastating strike Moskva between 15km - 20 km ranges in my MO a couple of time with different players. Situational awareness is a must, but if shot coming at you from 15-20 km away, it difficult to notice.

In cruiser play, I was able to cit Moskva but still a hard try while she took a considerable HP of me ... Moskva is not a bad ship, I like her .......

[BullHalsey]

4 minutes ago, ObiwankzKenobi said:

My own experiences during the clan battle, while playing in my Hinddy, is HE the Moskva then switch to AP and aim at the front turret; some bounces but some go straight in, and then use torp to force his angle Or everyone focus fire him first LOL. I did however in random battle cit and devastating strike Moskva between 15km - 20 km ranges in my MO a couple of time with different players. Situational awareness is a must, but if shot coming at you from 15-20 km away, it difficult to notice.

In cruiser play, I was able to cit Moskva but still a hard try while she took a considerable HP of me ... Moskva is not a bad ship, I like her .......

Yeah I haven't played it enough to be really fluent, but to me it's more of a one trick pony compared to other cruisers.  Almost like the Yamato of cruisers, with radar.  You can end up in a bow tank situation, get damage saturated, tank like hell... but if you try to turn out of that it can be a delete situation as well.  Not far removed from Yamato, really, at least in that regard.  Very particular playstyle, and can get particularly sucky at times for having no torpedoes.

Still, all that helps the team and if winning is the ultimate goal, it can be worked to that end.

Flamu has a great vid, two I think, where he shows both that and bouncing a Yammy.  Got the latter directly from him and it works.

[AdmiralThunder]

58 minutes ago, Fishrokk said:

I'd skip over those three to shoot an Omaha any time I see one.

You also forgot Nurnberg - the only ship commonly referred to with the words "obligatory" and "exploding" in front of it's name.

I ain't saying Kirov is not squishy.  It's just not *that* squishy.

Maybe it is because I like Omaha and do ok in it?

[ObiphanKenobi]

First up, the Orlan .... just enough XP to the Novik

[ObiphanKenobi]

Enough for t3 Bogatyr

[ObiphanKenobi]

[WolfofWarship]

Hey @ObiwankzKenobi how's it going so far? 

[ObiphanKenobi]

Hi @WolfofWarship and the rest of captains,

 

If you had set up a project and target which line to grind, it pretty much very easy. I had done research on the Russian cruiser in preparation for the grind, watched you tube and read forum posts before the grind start. So far so good, cant wait to get to t5 where the turret lay out in ABXY ....

as you can see, I advances up the tier very fast