Why does wargamming design ships badly on purpose?

[M8i]

Myogi gets torn apart too fast, Kaiser has poor aiming, and both catch on fire so fast.

[KiyoSenkan]

Play something other than battleships. It'll help you learn how to avoid this.

 

Those ships are fine (my own negative feelings on Kaiser are subjective)

[AspiringCodger]

Just to be clear, you're asking for a perfect ship, right?  No weaknesses?  One that you can play poorly in and still wreck everyone else?  Sounds reasonable.

All ships have their strengths and weaknesses.  You just need to learn to adjust your playstyle to the ship you're in.  There are plenty of videos and guides out there to help you out.

[Super_Splash_Bro]

Sorry to hear you're frustrated with these ships. What would you like to see changed or to make them more competitive? A friendly reminder to everyone to keep the comments and posts constructive and contributing to the topic.

[RipNuN2]

[M8i]

1 minute ago, KiyoSenkan said:

Play something other than battleships. It'll help you learn how to avoid this.

 

Those ships are fine (my own negative feelings on Kaiser are subjective)

The myogi gets blown up too fast might as well wear a redshirt

[warpath_33]

[desmo_2]

9 minutes ago, M8i said:

Myogi gets torn apart too fast, Kaiser has poor aiming, and both catch on fire so fast.

Because T4 battleships.

[enderland07]

The Myogi is one of the first ships in the game..

[Murcc]

All the BBs suffer from something at the lower tiers.  Its mostly because they are slow in changing direction, firing the guns, and turret rotation.  You have to plan your moves well ahead.  If not, you risk being in the wrong place for way longer than you should be, which will result in multiple shots, fires, and/or torps hitting.  Most BBs at this tier also suffer from the shot gun blast effect.

[JCC45]

Try these.

Myogi

 

Kaiser

 

[KiyoSenkan]

3 minutes ago, M8i said:

The myogi gets blown up too fast might as well wear a redshirt

The Myogi's lightly armored for a battleship. You're probably getting too close. Stay at range, angled away, and use those 14 inch guns. You have the biggest guns in tier 4 on that thing, and it's the fastest battleship in the tier with only Ishizuchi coming close.

 

Keep your distance. Find your targets. Tear them apart. And bring me the Matrix.

[jason199506]

oh its you AGAIN

[Situational_Unawareness]

Can’t be caught on fire if you kill everything that’s shooting at you

[jager_geist]

2 minutes ago, jason199506 said:

oh its you AGAIN

Yeah, he's back blaming the ships again.

[M8i]

4 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said:

The Myogi's lightly armored for a battleship. You're probably getting too close. Stay at range, angled away, and use those 14 inch guns. You have the biggest guns in tier 4 on that thing, and it's the fastest battleship in the tier with only Ishizuchi coming close.

 

Keep your distance. Find your targets. Tear them apart. And bring me the Matrix.

Why light armour?

[KiyoSenkan]

4 minutes ago, Situational_Unawareness said:

Can’t be caught on fire if you kill everything that’s shooting at you

But if I'm not on fire, what do I do about the ninjas?

1 minute ago, M8i said:

Why light armour?

Prototype battlecruiser. If you can't play Myogi, you might as well give up on the line, because you'll use the same tactics in Myogi that you'll use in Kongo, Fuso, Amagi, and arguably Fuso and Nagato.

[M8i]

2 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said:

But if I'm not on fire, what do I do about the ninjas?

Prototype battlecruiser. If you can't play Myogi, you might as well give up on the line, because you'll use the same tactics in Myogi that you'll use in Kongo, Fuso, Amagi, and arguably Fuso and Nagato.

So to Wargaming's mind a battlecruiser equals to a battleship? Well that makes no sense at all.

[Situational_Unawareness]

2 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said:

But if I'm not on fire, what do I do about the ninjas?

Ninjas can’t catch you if they’re on fire either. That, or you bring in a cruiser with hydro to find them.

[warpath_33]

2 minutes ago, M8i said:

So to Wargaming's mind a battlecruiser equals to a battleship? Well that makes no sense at all.

Well, every battlecruiser in the game save Ishizuchi and Ashitaka have a upgrade that essentially turns them into fast battleships so...

[M8i]

Just now, warpath_33 said:

Well, every battlecruiser in the game save Ishizuchi and Ashitaka have a upgrade that essentially turns them into fast battleships so...

Still

[warpath_33]

2 minutes ago, M8i said:

Still

Stirring argument sir.

[megadeux]

24 minutes ago, M8i said:

Myogi gets torn apart too fast, Kaiser has poor aiming, and both catch on fire so fast.

Aren't you the guy who started the tech tree meme?

To answer your question, each ship has weaknesses, and for the Germans it's poor accuracy, foot the IJN it's lack of tankiness.

WG doesn't design the ships, it just uses old designs and uses historical flaws in each ship as balancing tools.

[AquaSquirrel]

There's nothing really wrong with Myogi save gun arrangement and only six guns with BB dispersion.

She pays for her speed with her armor. For not having heavy armor she can flex across  map which can be a game winning ability.

Need to defend the cap on a standard battle and your almost on the other side the map? Better hope you are in a Myogi.

 

[Wye_So_Serious]

I've performed an exhaustive analysis of this issue and have determined unequivocally that it is NOT the ships.

PEBCAK