45 anonym_3PcbQIcaagnb Members 282 posts Report post #1 Posted January 31, 2018 Myogi gets torn apart too fast, Kaiser has poor aiming, and both catch on fire so fast. 1 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,848 [NMKJT] KiyoSenkan Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,895 battles Report post #2 Posted January 31, 2018 Play something other than battleships. It'll help you learn how to avoid this. Those ships are fine (my own negative feelings on Kaiser are subjective) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 AspiringCodger Beta Testers 2,029 posts Report post #3 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Just to be clear, you're asking for a perfect ship, right? No weaknesses? One that you can play poorly in and still wreck everyone else? Sounds reasonable. All ships have their strengths and weaknesses. You just need to learn to adjust your playstyle to the ship you're in. There are plenty of videos and guides out there to help you out. Edited January 31, 2018 by AspiringCodger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
242 Super_Splash_Bro Beta Testers 284 posts 6,138 battles Report post #4 Posted January 31, 2018 Sorry to hear you're frustrated with these ships. What would you like to see changed or to make them more competitive? A friendly reminder to everyone to keep the comments and posts constructive and contributing to the topic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,919 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 13,681 posts Report post #5 Posted January 31, 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 anonym_3PcbQIcaagnb Members 282 posts Report post #6 Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, KiyoSenkan said: Play something other than battleships. It'll help you learn how to avoid this. Those ships are fine (my own negative feelings on Kaiser are subjective) The myogi gets blown up too fast might as well wear a redshirt 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
356 warpath_33 Members 1,271 posts 3,749 battles Report post #7 Posted January 31, 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,178 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 6,752 posts 16,132 battles Report post #8 Posted January 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, M8i said: Myogi gets torn apart too fast, Kaiser has poor aiming, and both catch on fire so fast. Because T4 battleships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,358 [BFBTW] enderland07 Members 4,181 posts 9,568 battles Report post #9 Posted January 31, 2018 The Myogi is one of the first ships in the game.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
665 [CAST] Murcc [CAST] Members 2,618 posts 10,469 battles Report post #10 Posted January 31, 2018 All the BBs suffer from something at the lower tiers. Its mostly because they are slow in changing direction, firing the guns, and turret rotation. You have to plan your moves well ahead. If not, you risk being in the wrong place for way longer than you should be, which will result in multiple shots, fires, and/or torps hitting. Most BBs at this tier also suffer from the shot gun blast effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,385 [YORHA] JCC45 Members 5,128 posts 10,304 battles Report post #11 Posted January 31, 2018 Try these. Myogi Kaiser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,848 [NMKJT] KiyoSenkan Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,895 battles Report post #12 Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, M8i said: The myogi gets blown up too fast might as well wear a redshirt The Myogi's lightly armored for a battleship. You're probably getting too close. Stay at range, angled away, and use those 14 inch guns. You have the biggest guns in tier 4 on that thing, and it's the fastest battleship in the tier with only Ishizuchi coming close. Keep your distance. Find your targets. Tear them apart. And bring me the Matrix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
500 [AP] jason199506 Members 1,373 posts 18,317 battles Report post #13 Posted January 31, 2018 oh its you AGAIN 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19 Situational_Unawareness Members 63 posts 239 battles Report post #14 Posted January 31, 2018 Can’t be caught on fire if you kill everything that’s shooting at you 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
483 [MEIST] jager_geist Members 1,505 posts 5,746 battles Report post #15 Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, jason199506 said: oh its you AGAIN Yeah, he's back blaming the ships again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 anonym_3PcbQIcaagnb Members 282 posts Report post #16 Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said: The Myogi's lightly armored for a battleship. You're probably getting too close. Stay at range, angled away, and use those 14 inch guns. You have the biggest guns in tier 4 on that thing, and it's the fastest battleship in the tier with only Ishizuchi coming close. Keep your distance. Find your targets. Tear them apart. And bring me the Matrix. Why light armour? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,848 [NMKJT] KiyoSenkan Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,895 battles Report post #17 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Situational_Unawareness said: Can’t be caught on fire if you kill everything that’s shooting at you But if I'm not on fire, what do I do about the ninjas? 1 minute ago, M8i said: Why light armour? Prototype battlecruiser. If you can't play Myogi, you might as well give up on the line, because you'll use the same tactics in Myogi that you'll use in Kongo, Fuso, Amagi, and arguably Fuso and Nagato. Edited January 31, 2018 by KiyoSenkan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 anonym_3PcbQIcaagnb Members 282 posts Report post #18 Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said: But if I'm not on fire, what do I do about the ninjas? Prototype battlecruiser. If you can't play Myogi, you might as well give up on the line, because you'll use the same tactics in Myogi that you'll use in Kongo, Fuso, Amagi, and arguably Fuso and Nagato. So to Wargaming's mind a battlecruiser equals to a battleship? Well that makes no sense at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19 Situational_Unawareness Members 63 posts 239 battles Report post #19 Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, KiyoSenkan said: But if I'm not on fire, what do I do about the ninjas? Ninjas can’t catch you if they’re on fire either. That, or you bring in a cruiser with hydro to find them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
356 warpath_33 Members 1,271 posts 3,749 battles Report post #20 Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, M8i said: So to Wargaming's mind a battlecruiser equals to a battleship? Well that makes no sense at all. Well, every battlecruiser in the game save Ishizuchi and Ashitaka have a upgrade that essentially turns them into fast battleships so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 anonym_3PcbQIcaagnb Members 282 posts Report post #21 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, warpath_33 said: Well, every battlecruiser in the game save Ishizuchi and Ashitaka have a upgrade that essentially turns them into fast battleships so... Still Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
356 warpath_33 Members 1,271 posts 3,749 battles Report post #22 Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, M8i said: Still Stirring argument sir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312 [KOHAI] Ducc_ducc Members 1,694 posts 6,014 battles Report post #23 Posted January 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, M8i said: Myogi gets torn apart too fast, Kaiser has poor aiming, and both catch on fire so fast. Aren't you the guy who started the tech tree meme? To answer your question, each ship has weaknesses, and for the Germans it's poor accuracy, foot the IJN it's lack of tankiness. WG doesn't design the ships, it just uses old designs and uses historical flaws in each ship as balancing tools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205 [-BMV-] AquaSquirrel Members 1,228 posts 6,308 battles Report post #24 Posted January 31, 2018 There's nothing really wrong with Myogi save gun arrangement and only six guns with BB dispersion. She pays for her speed with her armor. For not having heavy armor she can flex across map which can be a game winning ability. Need to defend the cap on a standard battle and your almost on the other side the map? Better hope you are in a Myogi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,194 Wye_So_Serious Members 2,091 posts 32,322 battles Report post #25 Posted January 31, 2018 I've performed an exhaustive analysis of this issue and have determined unequivocally that it is NOT the ships. PEBCAK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
