20 Scotch_Donkey Members 80 posts 4,805 battles Report post #1 Posted January 30, 2018 Looking for advice - for the 4 point captain skill, currently on the Colorado, AFT or Fire Prevention? Thanks in advance For your entertainment, here is a sailor cat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
177 [B2P] DreadRaybo Members 568 posts 21,264 battles Report post #2 Posted January 30, 2018 Of the two, I would pick AFT. However, if you are going up the USN BB line, you should consider CE. USN BBs from North Carolina on up really benefit from this. And personally, I prefer the 3 point Basics of Survivability over Fire Prevention, as it reduces times for both fire and flooding, and its only 3 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,299 [VCRUZ] Xlap Members 4,049 posts 9,180 battles Report post #3 Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Scratched said: Looking for advice - for the 4 point captain skill, currently on the Colorado, AFT or Fire Prevention? Thanks in advance For your entertainment, here is a sailor cat... Neither, get CE. Concealment is the best thing you can get atm. Also Colorado is a slow ship, concealment helps you to survive and get good positioning. After CE both AFT and FP are good choices, depends on what you want for your ship. You want a AA build? Go for AFT. You want a tanky build? Go for FP. Personally i set my USN BBs for AA. Edited January 30, 2018 by Xlap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 Scotch_Donkey Members 80 posts 4,805 battles Report post #4 Posted January 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, DreadRaybo said: Of the two, I would pick AFT. However, if you are going up the USN BB line, you should consider CE. USN BBs from North Carolina on up really benefit from this. And personally, I prefer the 3 point Basics of Survivability over Fire Prevention, as it reduces times for both fire and flooding, and its only 3 points. 15 minutes ago, Xlap said: Neither, get CE. Concealment is the best thing you can get atm. Also Colorado is a slow ship, concealment helps you to survive and get good positioning. After CE both AFT and FP are good choices, depends on what you want for your ship. You want a AA build? Go for AFT. You want a tanky build? Go for FP. Personally i set my USN BBs for AA. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
602 Ghostdog1355 Members 2,855 posts 9,182 battles Report post #5 Posted January 30, 2018 Fire Prevention. Colorado's a tank at 21 knots. Cruisers and DDs are going to spew HE all over your slow lumbering azz. Anything that will turn you into an Iron Zombie and make you live longer is to your advantage. I love the Colorado. [edited] is tough as a box of rusty nails and hits like Rocky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,138 K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 27,518 battles Report post #6 Posted January 30, 2018 The current meta prefers that you stay hidden as long as possible. So CE for now. Later it’s up to you. USN BB have a good AA and profit from a AA build with AFT. If you hope you will not see carrier often and afraid of fire you may choose FP at this point. If you want to respec your captain after unlocking the NC you can use FP for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 Psycodiver Members 1,747 posts 3,622 battles Report post #7 Posted January 30, 2018 As Colorado being my most played ship I will say AFT. At T7 you still see CVs fairly often with most being lower tier than you and most CV players don't expect a 87 AA rating. The salt and hacking accusations are pure gold. Concealment Expert is another great choice if you are using this captain on further ships because concealment build NC is just plain great. For the Colorado it will allow her to disappear I think at 14ish KM. Fire Prevention is a useless skill for me because I have rarely been on fire that much in any of my BBs. I do run Damage Control module 1 and 2 and Basics of Survivability so even if I get lit on fire I rarely burn long enough and with the Colorado's great heal it makes fire damage kinda of a joke My current Colorado specific captain has Preventive Maintaince, Expert Marksman, BFT, AFT, Adrenaline Rush, Basics of Survivability and at 19 points I will get Concealment Expert. That said Superintendant is a fine skill along with a High Alert/ Jack of All Trades combo if you want to come back from death a few times. For mods I run DCS 1 and 2 and the AA mod. I did do a Secondary build for a little bit during the captain respec week and that is pretty hilarious because while the secondaries don't do allot of alpha damage, they do set tons of fires Now if it was for later down the line then I would go with Priority Target, EM, BFT and CE. The thing is if a CV player sees your NC or Iowa and your not at a 100 rating for AA, they for some reason go out of their way to try to sink you regardless if there is a better target Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,267 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Supertester 27,211 posts 14,758 battles Report post #8 Posted January 30, 2018 AFT is relatively useless for the Colorado with its short secondary range although it does help the AA which is pretty good. I would go with Fire Prevention or Concealment Expert with FP being the better choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,109 [90THV] Saetre Members 1,912 posts 8,071 battles Report post #9 Posted January 30, 2018 Fire prevention is an invaluable skill on any battleship. It'd be folly to pass up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,073 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,701 posts Report post #10 Posted January 30, 2018 Personally I think Concealment Expert is overrated on US battleships. If you’re playing right you’ll be firing all the time anyway. So the only benefit you’re getting is an few extra seconds of invisibility at the start of the game. That’s not enough benefit for 4 skill points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,267 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Supertester 27,211 posts 14,758 battles Report post #11 Posted January 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, TheDreadnought said: Personally I think Concealment Expert is overrated on US battleships. If you’re playing right you’ll be firing all the time anyway. So the only benefit you’re getting is an few extra seconds of invisibility at the start of the game. That’s not enough benefit for 4 skill points. Any little bit of time saved not being detected is good and it also means that you can go dark a bit sooner but there are other better options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
106 Ivlerlin Beta Testers 1,143 posts 3,273 battles Report post #12 Posted January 30, 2018 I'd go with FP first of the 2 you're planning on picking. AFT is great when the time comes to bouncing the Cmdr around other USN Prems especially is some of the ones you own are AA or SB spec'ed. But of the 2 I'd go FP first if you're going to grab both. The arguments for CE are good ones. Prior to the RN, the USN was the "stealth" BB nation. They're still good spec'ed that way. But the same is said for the previous SB builds with fhe IJN. If you're planning on a 3x4 skill loadout definitely take CE at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,645 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 20,069 posts 12,754 battles Report post #13 Posted January 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Scratched said: Looking for advice - for the 4 point captain skill, currently on the Colorado, AFT or Fire Prevention? Thanks in advance For your entertainment, here is a sailor cat... My main BB captain that is going up the line is as follows. (he is on CO now) PM, EM, HA, BoS, CE, (AFT, BFT to come) Sort of a hybrid AA survivability build. I consider CE to be a survivability skill for going dark if needed and I will be putting the captain into NC, Iowa and Montana. My permanent Colorado captain will be as follows. PM, EM, BoS, FP, (HA, AFT, BFT to come) Colorado is pretty slow, so I think FP will be worth more than CE. 1 hour ago, _V12 said: Fire prevention is an invaluable skill on any battleship. It'd be folly to pass up. Oh yeah. It will be on most of my other BBs, it is just that the US has such good AA, that I'm going for that too. 1 hour ago, TheDreadnought said: Personally I think Concealment Expert is overrated on US battleships. If you’re playing right you’ll be firing all the time anyway. So the only benefit you’re getting is an few extra seconds of invisibility at the start of the game. That’s not enough benefit for 4 skill points. 1 hour ago, BrushWolf said: Any little bit of time saved not being detected is good and it also means that you can go dark a bit sooner but there are other better options. And the T8 US BBs are faster, so they can ghost easier than the standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11,252 [WOLF3] HazeGrayUnderway Members 28,272 posts 24,681 battles Report post #14 Posted January 30, 2018 You really want 14pts at the very least by the time you hit Tier VIII North Carolina. CE is a must. AFT is just as important to have that wall of AA to dissuade CVs from going after you, and if they still do, make them pay dearly. A high tier USN BB with no buffed AA is as good as a Tirpitz in the eyes of a CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites