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How is being afk not more toxic than chat

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Chat has a filter, you can block a person in game, you have a blacklist, heck players can give out chat bans but still WG thinks chat is more toxic than afkers.  Give us the players the ability to flag a person afk and if they do nothing in a game they get a 1 hour ban.  Had the same person 3 ranked game out of 5 AFK twice on my team once on the enemy, how is that not vastly more toxic?  Also if a person doesn't give a command foe 2 minutes assign a bot to the ship and give them 0 reward and full cost of repair.  If life happens none of this will effect anyone often, but it will remove the chain afkers.

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1 minute ago, 1HandTiedBehindMyBack said:

 

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Right.....so you will screw over people who may actually have a legitimate reason to leave the keyboard, and screw them over?

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2 minutes ago, 1HandTiedBehindMyBack said:

give them full cost of repair.  

You always pay 'full cost'.

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2 minutes ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

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Right.....so you will screw over people who may actually have a legitimate reason to leave the keyboard, and screw them over?

So it is screwing over a person who joins a game then does't actively play?  Only thing that changes is a bot takes over after 2 minutes and if enough people report you take an 1 hour break.  What about the 14 other people you screw over by being afk, they count for nothing?

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1 minute ago, 1HandTiedBehindMyBack said:

So it is screwing over a person who joins a game then does't actively play?  Only thing that changes is a bot takes over after 2 minutes and if enough people report you take an 1 hour break.  What about the 14 other people you screw over by being afk, they count for nothing?

Right so the people who have connection issues, phone calls, family emergencies, or unexpected tasks should get punished for things beyond their control?

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Just now, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

Right so the people who have connection issues, phone calls, family emergencies, or unexpected tasks should get punished for things beyond their control?

Nope. There are people in ranked that hope the team will carry them. I had it in other seasons that the same player joined battle after battle and did nothing. Don’t tell me they get every 15 minutes a family emergency of phonecall. 

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15 minutes ago, 1HandTiedBehindMyBack said:

Also if a person doesn't give a command foe 2 minutes assign a bot to the ship 

this is a good idea...

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1 minute ago, Erebthoron said:

Nope. There are people in ranked that hope the team will carry them. I had it in other seasons that the same player joined battle after battle and did nothing. Don’t tell me they get every 15 minutes a family emergency of phonecall. 

That is a different story, in that case then his idea has some merit, but he wants this to happen to everyone who is AFK once or twice. That is a simply unrealistic.

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To me, the difference is that people in chat are going out of their way to ruin game play experience.

I've also witnessed more than one person reveal positions to the enemy team in chat, which is certainly worse than being afk.

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A couple minutes is fine but 20 minutes is silly. I can understand it happening on occasion but it happens far too much. Even if it was a crash the worst laptop in my house can be back in the match in less than 5 minutes and that's with a reboot. Middle of match abandonment is cause life and understood or should be.

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1 minute ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

That is a different story, in that case then his idea has some merit, but he wants this to happen to everyone who is AFK once or twice. That is a simply unrealistic.

That’s right. The last client had some flaws and many people had to restart the game. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

a legitimate reason to leave the keyboard

Then they should turn off the game.

I agree with the OP. The AFK thing is a plague.

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Just now, Battlecruiser_NewZealand said:

Then they should turn off the game.

Stuff happens suddenly without warning, they should not be penalized if something like that happens. Not all AFK people are doing it on purpose and it should not be assumed.

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I'm not sure it's necessary in randoms but something like this is sorely needed in Ranked with escalating bans if you keep doing it. If you accumulate enough AFK games in a season you should be out for the season. If you can't commit or guarantee your presence in Ranked don't queue it up. Other people are relying on you. I only played 17 games this season and saw far too many AFKs. 

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AFK'ers doing it to be carried generally do it frequently.   WG could implement flag those accounts and apply the penalties accordingly.

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2 minutes ago, Rocketpacman said:

I'm not sure it's necessary in randoms but something like this is sorely needed in Ranked with escalating bans if you keep doing it.

You see i agree having something like this in ranked is fine as an AFK player has a much larger impact there but in Randoms? No, it us unneeded and unnecessary.

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I have a hard time believing many people are deliberately AFKing.

Ranked - you put your team at a massive disadvantage, and you ensure that if you lose you will never save your star.  A person deliberately and repeatedly AFKing would quickly sink to the bottom of the ranks.

Random - you're going to obtain zero xp and minimal credits, so whatever goals you're AFKing your way towards are going to take forever.

 

I'm not saying people aren't bad and won't abuse a system.  I'm saying it just doesn't make much sense.

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8 minutes ago, Kraayt said:

AFK'ers doing it to be carried generally do it frequently.   WG could implement flag those accounts and apply the penalties accordingly.

Carried to what end, I wonder. What does one hope to do with a 0 XP win?

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As a player with barely over 300 random battles, I will say that I see way more AFK in ships than I ever see on console tanks (30k + battles).  I'm understanding of life needs, but it really does feel more habitual here from what I've seen thus far. 

Thankfully, it's only words on the screen and spamming "stow the crows" or "I need assistance", but I find chat to be horrible here. Tanks, on the other hand, you actually get verbal comms which are absolute trash.  I spend a lot of time muting people  

Whats funny is that this forum is much less toxic than console tanks. 

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17 minutes ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

Stuff happens suddenly without warning, they should not be penalized if something like that happens. Not all AFK people are doing it on purpose and it should not be assumed.

Yes, they should. By Wargaming's own policy on punishments, they should.

Being "mean" in chat is relative - I've seen people chat banned before simply because they criticized the play of a division on the team. So if that was "hurtful" enough to the team to warrant a ban, then AFKing for a long duration should definitely merit a micro vacation from playtime.

It literally takes nothing to turn off the client, or not click the battle button. But these self-absorbed people don't care; they're more concerned with whatever distracted them in any given moment than following through on a commitment they just made to 11 other people. So, yeah, I don't want those folks around me - I want them to suffer consequences. 

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44 minutes ago, 1HandTiedBehindMyBack said:

...and give them 0 reward and full cost of repair.

There is never an instance where you don't get full cost of repairs.

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AFK,TK, Rage Chat,Troll Chat,Poor Play, Lazy Good for Nothing waste of space Play, there are so many ways to express what One Player Hates and should be Punished. 

How about Play your game with the cards your dealt? 

Ranked Battles are for those who strive for one goal.

AFK and all the other things directly affect this goal.

After two AFK reports from two seperate games to support, the player will be Banned from Ranked Play

Don't stop the "perp" from playing the entire game restrict them from the season of ranked.

Make this reviewable by staff to reverse the decision of ranked Ban

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Being AFK isn't something people are doing to be malicious, what would be the point? You get 0 XP, no cash and a full repair bill. The last game client was causing me to go AFK all the time due to disconnects requiring a quit and restart of the client. Sometimes I hit 'battle' and then something urgent comes up. Or my phone rings. Or the cat vomits on my lap. Or my girlfriend walks naked past the office door.

It happens to both sides in equal measure. You can already report people for being AFK, after a few of those you can end up with a temporary ban. If you really need more draconian punishments for being AFK, maybe make it 3 battles in a row without any keyboard input. Be careful though, because the more innocent people you catch with these kinds of things, the more people are going to give up on the game.

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While we're at it, let's kick BB players off the team if they haven't managed to hit anything in the first 5 mins and replace them with a bot.

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