24 AustralianOptometrist Members 83 posts 10,099 battles Report post #1 Posted January 29, 2018 Good morning! As you might know, last year was supposed to be the "year of the CV". Some of the changes were: Revamped control interface; alternative mouse controls Commander skills rework Removal of manual attack from T4, T5 CVs USN CV rework, addition of AP DBs Two released premium CVs: Kaga, Enterprise Addition of strafe-out I would greatly appreciate your help in gauging community feedback. Please click here to fill out Part 1 of the survey. There are a lot of questions, so I've decided to split the survey into two halves. This week's survey covers general CV balance/feedback, and specific CVs. The survey will be active for one week, after which I'll post the second half. Thanks to Danorou from Reddit for early feedback! If you have any questions or feedback regarding the survey, feel free to comment below or send me a PM. Thanks again for your time and interest, and see you next week! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,276 anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT Members 4,302 posts Report post #2 Posted January 29, 2018 technically; 3 premium cvs were released last year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24 AustralianOptometrist Members 83 posts 10,099 battles Report post #3 Posted January 29, 2018 31 minutes ago, nuttybiscuit said: technically; 3 premium cvs were released last year. Graf Zeppelin is in a weird place where she was officially released and is still in testing. I decided not to include her in the survey because we still don't know her final setup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24 AustralianOptometrist Members 83 posts 10,099 battles Report post #4 Posted January 29, 2018 Also, I forgot to mention that this is part 1; part 2, which will be live next week, covers player balance proposals and the surface ship (non-CV) point of view. If you have any suggestions for balance, please feel free to comment and I'll add as many as I can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,558 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 38,590 posts 31,232 battles Report post #5 Posted January 29, 2018 There is no mention on the notable exclusion of CVs in Clan Wars by WG, that in itself is a big "F--k you" to CVs despite the "Year of the CV." The removal of Manual Attacks for Tier IV-V CVs and the decrepit state of Tier VI-IX USN CVs despite the revamp is a funny way of WG saying 2017 was to be the "Year of the CV." Some of those Tech Tree USN CV Revamp ships have gotten worse since the changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #6 Posted January 29, 2018 IMHO besides Big E coming in, WG failed miserably to fix carriers. Till they bite the bullet and completely rebuild the mechanics, nothing they do will fix this mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,375 [NG-NL] Reymu Members 7,174 posts 12,756 battles Report post #7 Posted January 29, 2018 They need to overhaul CVs probably from ground up. After having devastatingly good matches in Taiho and seeing the AA-spec irritants in SL, CVs swing too much from being "good" to "bad." I really loathe being shut down and it feels a bit bad having the advantage against many T7-8 ships in Taiho. Don't even run her much because the AA, too, tends to be either too much or too little. It'd be nice if WG nerfed AA on some ships and set US as the AA-king, maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24 AustralianOptometrist Members 83 posts 10,099 battles Report post #8 Posted January 29, 2018 2 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: There is no mention on the notable exclusion of CVs in Clan Wars by WG, that in itself is a big "F--k you" to CVs despite the "Year of the CV." The removal of Manual Attacks for Tier IV-V CVs and the decrepit state of Tier VI-IX USN CVs despite the revamp is a funny way of WG saying 2017 was to be the "Year of the CV." Some of those Tech Tree USN CV Revamp ships have gotten worse since the changes. Good point, I'll include that in the second part coming soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [WOLFD] Carl [WOLFD] Beta Testers 5,072 posts 1,514 battles Report post #9 Posted January 29, 2018 2 hours ago, IronWolfV said: IMHO besides Big E coming in, WG failed miserably to fix carriers. Till they bite the bullet and completely rebuild the mechanics, nothing they do will fix this mess. Thats what they're in the process of doing, that's why we didn't get the big CV rework last year, despite the term "year of the CV" they basically postponed it for a year because they needed a bigger overhaul and that takes time to code. Last news we had it would be entering internal pre-supertst alpha sometime in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,169 [SYN] mofton [SYN] Members 9,313 posts 18,914 battles Report post #10 Posted January 29, 2018 If I hadn't done my homework and it was a year late, I might claim that I tried to do it but it didn't work out, and no you can't see the workings. But I am over cynical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 AceM193 Members 50 posts 4,165 battles Report post #11 Posted January 31, 2018 Recently, USN CVs were reworked. In general, how has this affected balance when playing as USN CVs? * Well the real answer for this question is something like...it's removed the annoying AS opponents and the no fighter or no TPB decision and improved the stock (my usual choice) but did nothing for the IJN vs USN balance IMO at least in case of the Ranger and Lexington I've playing. It's the number of fighters that matter vs IJN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,026 [NATO] hipcanuck Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,663 posts 10,493 battles Report post #12 Posted January 31, 2018 The long fix for CV's is very complicated, the short fix isnt. There are too many 'flavours' in the CV game to make it easy to balance or even adjust the balance. The short fix is to break CV's/planes/armament into 3 levels. This would put T4-5 into pre/early war, T6-7-8 in the middle/late and 9-10 into late/post war. AA could be broken down into the same 3 levels. The key is to make the differences in the AA and the planes fairly minimal over the tiers. CV's need to be dumbed down so the masses can compete with the unicums or even the fairly decent CV players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
725 [NEUTR] NeutralState Members 2,207 posts 11,692 battles Report post #13 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) WG in 2017, officially stated CVs are OP, and therefore removed from certain battle modes. It is the year of the CV, no other ship class in game has been identified as OP officially by WG. Also lawl AP dive bombers. Edited January 31, 2018 by NeutralState Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,558 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 38,590 posts 31,232 battles Report post #14 Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, NeutralState said: Also lawl AP dive bombers. AP DBs are overly specializing the CV for Anti-BB work, and killing BBs was what they already were good at. Even then, the AP DBs aren't as good against IJN BBs, and USN BBs laugh at them. Don't get me wrong, it will always look hilarious punishing the Germans for their WWI designs with more modern warfare, but it makes the CV less dangerous to some other important targets: Anything else that isn't a BB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,109 [CRZ13] Saetre Members 1,912 posts 8,777 battles Report post #15 Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, NeutralState said: WG in 2017, officially stated CVs are OP, and therefore removed from certain battle modes. "Officially stated CVs are OP". Please link me to the WG post that specifically stated this rather than implying that they wanted a different style of gameplay. Maybe the filthy casual @Anumati can speak more on your level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,276 anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT Members 4,302 posts Report post #16 Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, _V12 said: "Officially stated CVs are OP". Please link me to the WG post that specifically stated this rather than implying that they wanted a different style of gameplay. Maybe the filthy casual @Anumati can speak more on your level. that scrub? Move aside, lemme speak, clearly in need of an expert of my calibre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
580 [PLPTV] Ulthwey Members 1,457 posts 9,077 battles Report post #17 Posted January 31, 2018 On 1/29/2018 at 1:31 PM, Reymu said: They need to overhaul CVs probably from ground up. After having devastatingly good matches in Taiho and seeing the AA-spec irritants in SL, CVs swing too much from being "good" to "bad." I really loathe being shut down and it feels a bit bad having the advantage against many T7-8 ships in Taiho. Don't even run her much because the AA, too, tends to be either too much or too little. It'd be nice if WG nerfed AA on some ships and set US as the AA-king, maybe. Oh yea. Literally, scrape majority (if not everything) and rework the entire CV interface and balance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
