Pan-American Fleet/Vessels?

[Kraayt]

Has there been any discussion as to introducing a Pan-American line of vessels representing the other navies of North, Central and South America besides the current United States and Canada vessels?

[hangglide42]

Hey Kraayt - Here you go - Latin American Tree.  This was a post from last year where the OP filled out a Pan-American DD tree w/ possible candidates - (I appreciated his attention to history, thought this type of line would be a good candidate and replied to it).

It doesn't address Canadian vessels, but does cover South/Central American candidates in the discussion.

 

[RipNuN2]

PanAm forever! I would support more ships as always.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

If it means we get Rio de Janeiro/Sultan Osman 1st/Agincourt, I'm all for it.

[AndreMaciel22]

My probable battleships:

 

Minas Gerais Class  Battleship (Brazilian  Navy)

Tier III

.

Rivadavia Class battleship (Argentine Navy)

Tier IV

[AndreMaciel22]

Riachuelo Class Battheship-project (Brazilian Navy)

Tier VI

 

Latorre Class Battleship (Chilean Navy)

Tier V

[AndreMaciel22]

Rio de Janeiro Class Battleship (Brazilian Navy project)

*HMS Agincourt Royal Navy

Tier V and VI  *Premium 

[AndreMaciel22]

 

 

 

Battleship Minas Gerais 

 

Battleship Rivadavia

 

Battleship Almirante Latorre

 

HMS Agincourt/Rio de Janeiro project

[zFireWyvern]

26 minutes ago, AndreMaciel22 said:

*HMS Agincourt Royal Navy

Tier V and VI  *Premium 

Agincourt is in no way tier V and VI material. She's long, has poor armour, has WWI era guns and shells and no AA to speak of, she's a tier IV.

[sulghunter331]

3 minutes ago, zFireWyvern said:

Agincourt is in no way tier V and VI material. She's long, has poor armour, has WWI era guns and shells and no AA to speak of, she's a tier IV.

You sure 14 12" guns running around in tier 4 would be a good idea? If anything, WG could always slap some fictional upgrades to bring up the AA from the stock hull.

[zFireWyvern]

17 minutes ago, sulghunter331 said:

You sure 14 12" guns running around in tier 4 would be a good idea? If anything, WG could always slap some fictional upgrades to bring up the AA from the stock hull.

Yes I am sure, that's only two more rifles than Wyoming, given her size and poor armour in comparison there shouldn't be a problem. WG can always tweak soft stats if it does prove to be an issue. She'd have a large healthpool with a glass jaw and a long citadel. On top of that I think Agincourt should come as a premium for the Royal Navy given the fact that it's the only navy she ever served with (and that she participated at Jutland) and WG has already said that Premiums in WoWS generally represent a specific time period in the career of the ship so a fictional AA suite is a no-go. Fictional modifications for real ships should be avoided wherever possible in my opinion.

[AndreMaciel22]

Pan-American Cruiser:

 

Tier II - Veinticinco de Mayo cruiser (Argentine Navy)

 

 

Tier III - Bahia Class Cruiser (Brazilian Navy)

 

 

[GreyFox78659]

Yes in fact a Brooklyn class Argentine ship is in testing.

As the last gun cruiser in the world is set to retire in South America I bet it will be a Pan American Cruiser line first then maybe a BB line later.

[AndreMaciel22]

 

Tier III - O' Higgins Class Cruiser (Chilean Navy)

 

Tier V / Tier VI ???  - Almirante Brown Class Cruiser (Argentine Navy)

 

[AndreMaciel22]

Tier VI - La Argentina Class Cruiser (Argentine Navy)

 

Barroso Cruiser / Brooklyn Class cruiser (Brazilian Navy)

 

 

Tamandaré Cruiser / St. Louis Class cruiser (Brazilian Navy)

 

 

[AndreMaciel22]

 

General Belgrano Cruiser / Brooklyn class cruiser (Argentine Navy)

[AndreMaciel22]

Almirante Grau Cruiser / Crown Colony Class (Peruvian Navy)

 

 

[crzyhawk]

They are getting the ex-Boise

[Ensign_Cthulhu]

On 29/01/2018 at 1:51 AM, Estimated_Prophet said:

If it means we get Rio de Janeiro/Sultan Osman 1st/Agincourt, I'm all for it.

You won't because she never served in a South American navy, even if she was originally ordered by one. 

[Estimated_Prophet]

12 minutes ago, Ensign_Cthulhu said:

You won't because she never served in a South American navy, even if she was originally ordered by one. 

While true; South American navies did have many ships more significant than destroyers.

Depending on how loosely WG wanted to play with timelines, Argentina and Brazil could even provide a hypothetical Pan South American branch with carriers.

[AndreMaciel22]

It would give to form two genealogical lines of destroyers Pan American, many.

[AndreMaciel22]

 

 

Pará Class Destroyer (Brazilian Navy)

 

Catamarca Class Destroyer (Argentine Navy)

 

Antioquia Class Destroyer (Colombian Navy)

 

Mariz e Barros Class Destroyer (Brazilian Navy)

[AndreMaciel22]

 

Amazonas Class Destroyer (Brazilian Navy)

 

Nueva Esparta Class Destroyer (Venezuelan Navy)

[AndreMaciel22]

 

Buenos Aires Class Destroyer (Argentine Navy)

 

 

Bracuí/Cannon Class Destroyer Escort (Brazilian)

 

Fletcher Class Destroyer 

Argentine

Brazilian

 

Espirito Santo/Gearing Class (Brazilian Navy)

 

 

 

 

[Royeaux]

10 hours ago, zFireWyvern said:

Agincourt is in no way tier V and VI material. She's long, has poor armour, has WWI era guns and shells and no AA to speak of, she's a tier IV.

You just described the Lyons.  WGing can find a way.