20 Scotch_Donkey Members 80 posts 4,805 battles Report post #1 Posted January 29, 2018 Although slow as all get out, I'm really liking the American BB line. I'm at the Colorado now - do they get better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21 [BROAT] broats Members 70 posts 3,430 battles Report post #2 Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Yes. Iowa/Mo is the most fun battleship in the game. (IMO) Edited January 29, 2018 by broats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
502 [AP] jason199506 Members 1,373 posts 20,488 battles Report post #3 Posted January 29, 2018 yes and no....... NC is great, until she gets uptiered iowa is great, but theres the premium clone missouri thats far superior due to radar then theres TX BB that's all pretty well balanced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,860 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 20,319 posts 13,642 battles Report post #4 Posted January 29, 2018 Just now, Scratched said: Although slow as all get out, I'm really liking the American BB line. I'm at the Colorado now - do they get better? I don't have North Carolina, but I do have Alabama and it is very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,615 battles Report post #5 Posted January 29, 2018 when you get the MOntana you have to fight Yamatos... Consider this.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,715 [PSP] Snargfargle [PSP] Members 19,325 posts Report post #6 Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) The North Carolina was my favorite BB, for a long time. She was uptiered to X constantly but would hold her own if you kept her nose angled at the enemy. The only two ships you really had to fear when angled were the Yamato and the Conqueror. Then, I got the Iowa. Oh my! She's everything the NC was and more. Not only does she have more hitpoints, she has a flatter trajectory too. While the NC can hold its own in tier X matches, the Iowa is right at home there. The Iowa is fast too; in fact, she's the fastest BB in the game at 33 knots. Edited January 29, 2018 by Snargfargle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,482 battles Report post #7 Posted January 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Snargfargle said: Conqueror are you talking 457 Conqueror or 16in Conqueror firing HE because 457 isn't enough to overmatch the bow armor of the NC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
502 [AP] jason199506 Members 1,373 posts 20,488 battles Report post #8 Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, skull_122_steel said: are you talking 457 Conqueror or 16in Conqueror firing HE because 457 isn't enough to overmatch the bow armor of the NC obviously 419 conq HE spam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,482 battles Report post #9 Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, jason199506 said: obviously 419 conq HE spam you mean mega Zao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,133 battles Report post #10 Posted January 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Snargfargle said: The North Carolina was my favorite BB, for a long time. She was uptiered to X constantly but would hold her own if you kept her nose angled at the enemy. The only two ships you really had to fear when angled were the Yamato and the Conqueror. Then, I got the Iowa. Oh my! She's everything the NC was and more. Not only does she have more hitpoints, she has a flatter trajectory too. While the NC can hold its own in tier X matches, the Iowa is right at home there. The Iowa is fast too; in fact, she's the fastest BB in the game at 33 knots. The ruddershift on the stock Iowa is still so bad that you hit an island on the ocean map... The Colorado was okish till the powercreep of the new BB lines. The NC is good after you get used to the shellarcs. With her the USN BB start having awesome AA. The Iowa is good. After you have the second hull. But then there is her more attractive sister Missouri. The Montana is like a Iowa with an extra turret. She feels less clumsy then the Yamato and has better AA. But then there are those laser guided shells from the Yamato or the napalm ammo of the Megazao. T8/9 are the highlights of this line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
607 Ghostdog1355 Members 2,857 posts 9,224 battles Report post #11 Posted January 29, 2018 American BBs can hold their own with any line. Tougher than a box of nails Hit with big azz shells. Slow to 7. Alabama is princess with an attitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
604 slokill_1 Members 2,459 posts 39,264 battles Report post #12 Posted January 29, 2018 Don't forget the 35 reload on NY for added alacrity. Colo is still a beast, especially with 2ndary spec and the 28 sec wonder heal. Missouri is awesome especially with the captain skilled and upgraded aiming stuff for the main battery. And also the wonder heal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,482 battles Report post #13 Posted January 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Erebthoron said: The ruddershift on the stock Iowa is still so bad that you hit an island on the ocean map... The Colorado was okish till the powercreep of the new BB lines. The NC is good after you get used to the shellarcs. With her the USN BB start having awesome AA. The Iowa is good. After you have the second hull. But then there is her more attractive sister Missouri. The Montana is like a Iowa with an extra turret. She feels less clumsy then the Yamato and has better AA. But then there are those laser guided shells from the Yamato or the napalm ammo of the Megazao. T8/9 are the highlights of this line. with the accuracy mod the only USN BBs get the montana also gets pretty nice accuracy I mean it's not a laser but it's still nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,133 battles Report post #14 Posted January 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said: with the accuracy mod the only USN BBs get the montana also gets pretty nice accuracy I mean it's not a laser but it's still nice Still the Yamato has the better shell, better arc and can pen ships through the bow. The Montana isn’t bad but the other BB‘s aren’t worse. Conqueror: extrem hard to hit citadel spam HE since you easy farm 100k+ damage by burning everything down, I‘m even disappointed if I dont light a fire extrem heal GK: turtleback for brawling her own light cruiser pinned to every side as secondaries healthpool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
177 [OBS] BullHalsey Members 1,277 posts 12,037 battles Report post #15 Posted January 29, 2018 Well I may sound crazy but I sold my Conqueror. I have (had) all four T10 BBs and became tired of high tier HE slinging monsters going right through the deck which is significantly less armored than the Gneisenau. Didn't care for the whole line, but unfortunately did not realize the full implications of that until I got to the ultimate one. That mega heal can be completely wiped out by even a moderate amount of accurate HE fire in less than a minute. Montana is definitely worth it now after the cit was lowered. Just know to treat Yamato as if you are in a cruiser. Even trying to glide shells down the side will only prolong the inevitable explosion. But Monty has a much more dynamic playstyle and thus generally more fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,198 [WOLF5] AJTP89 Supertester 5,240 posts 4,591 battles Report post #16 Posted January 29, 2018 USN is great. I really like them (obviously). The CO is much better now, I wouldn't say I really liked the ship, but it was a good experience. The NC is arguably the best BB Tier for Tier. The guns are awesome, cloaking device hilarious, armor good, speed is good, the AA is ridiculous. It has weaknesses, but they can be avoided. It's even competitive in T10. The AL is not the NC. It's a cruiser with 16in guns. The torpedobeats I've pulled in it are unbelievable even to me, and watching torps bounce off the belt is always fun. The guns are a bit wonky, but still hit hard. The Iowa is good (except the AA, that's still ridiculous). People complain about the steering, but it's pretty easy to work around. And unwinding to 33knts while chasing the enemy up a flank is a glorious feeling. The MO is like the Iowa, except it doesn't need an escort. DD refuses to cap? No problem, sneak in, pop radar, the shoot the unfortunate red DD who's trying to torp you and cap yourself. That RN CL happily spamming in smoke? Press Y to delete. Potato and die with only 30K damage on a defeat? No worries, you still made 150K credits. It's worth every penny IMO. Don't have the Montana, but it seems to be pretty similar. 12 USN 16in AP shells is a lot of hurt. That said, there are ships that can make your life miserable. RN BBs are OP, anyone who says they aren't hasn't extinguished 3 fires only to have the next salvo set two more, then barely survive that so the next salvo lights you up again. All while you bounce shells off the broadside laughing Brit. However, close to medium range if you catch them broadside, they are going to feel it. Otherwise, you'll just burn. At least the Germans have it worse. Yamato (and now Musashi) are a pain. Angle, WASD, whatever, if they don't cit you regardless of angle, they'll knock 10-20K off you. Khab. Just try hitting it with a BB. I dare you. I'm still trying. Flame throwing cruisers. They're a nuisance. However, the damage is repairable, and eventually you will connect, and they will not be able to repair that kind of damage. After all, making cruisers go boom is why we play battleships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,347 LunchCutter Members 1,210 posts 3,527 battles Report post #17 Posted January 29, 2018 I never like the Colorado. Enjoyed its fire-power and armour but mine used to constantly miss sitting ducks even at close range. Really used to frustrate the hell out of me sometimes when you line up the perfect target, fire and cry as all your shells just splashed around the target. Had an appalling win rate compared to other US BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,085 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,720 posts Report post #18 Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Scratched said: Although slow as all get out, I'm really liking the American BB line. I'm at the Colorado now - do they get better? Get yourself an Alabama. She’s amazing. Montana is no slouch either. Then, of course, there is Missouri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
706 [BROOK] TornadoADV Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 3,164 posts Report post #19 Posted January 29, 2018 The problem with the Colorado is she shoots like the New Mexico but with four less barrels. That leads to a lot of infuriating straddles with no telling hits if RNG decides to dump on you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
352 [GRFOX] GreyFox78659 Members 2,242 posts 5,234 battles Report post #20 Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Sadly you can just buy Alabama and Missouri and save yourself the grinding. North Carolina is were things turn for the better but Alabama is better same for the Iowa and Missouri. Edited January 29, 2018 by GreyFox78659 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,299 [VCRUZ] Xlap Members 4,049 posts 9,180 battles Report post #21 Posted January 29, 2018 Yep, NC and Iowa are really good ships, decent tank, amazing guns, god like AA. And Montana is considered the best overall T10 BB right now. USN mid tier BBs are meh, Colorado is one of the worst T7 BBs IMO. But starting at T8 they get really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites